No Symbian?? Any updates?

[carcomptoy]

Alright, so with the 3660 and 6600 long gone and the N-Gage QD just taken off the website like 1-2 weeks ago, what's the status of T-Mobile offering any S60 phones??? I mean, they can't not have any more S60 phones for good, considering their popularity (at least abroad) and that a lot of their customers have S60 phones who might want another one. I know you can get it online and stuff, but carrier rebates do help the wallet a lot. On the Nokia website, the 6670 is shown as coming soon, and it's only the 900/1800/1900MHz version, so does that mean T-Mobile will offer it? The 9500 was also just released, once again only with the Eurasian version...foreshadowing that it's headed for T-Mobile??:D I need my Symbian fix...:p

Very sad that the rest of the worlds about to get the N90 when we're still about to get the 6670 :(

[jmax577]

have you noticed that a few of tmobs phones are supporting 850 now? mwwwhhhaaahhhaaaa!!!

[3gpeasy]

Very sad that the rest of the worlds about to get the N90 when we're still about to get the 6670 :(

er, yeah, when did you become a third world country?

[jmax577]

er, yeah, when did you become a third world country?
come again?

[carcomptoy]

er, yeah, when did you become a third world country?
Oh please, I hope you're joking, because honestly, cellphone availability has no reflection on a country's world rank...

Americans just have a more simplistic outlook on cellphones than everyone else, or at least are just barely catching up...

[cfj03]

Wow, don't have a fit! :D

As far as Nokia is concerned we might as well be but then again, I don't see VZW or Sprint (or even Cingular and T-Mob for that matter) clamoring for more Nokia phones. As I have said before, and Jose has somewhat seconded, Nokia is so far behind in the US-now 4th-that I don't think they nor the carriers have any real desire to reverse the trend.

Man, it was only 2K-2K1 that EVERYONE had a Nokia in the states. Now I am one of the few outside of prepaid and phones from 2-3 years ago. Nokia would need to come out with a KILLER clamshell looks-wise, like the V3(I know it lacks in the feature dept), to even get anyone to notice the features (which are, IMHO, in many respects a notch above what Moto, LG and Samsung release here).

[carcomptoy]

Yeah I remember when EVERYONE had the 3390...at a time when I had the Samsung R225m:D I don't think though that they need a killer clamshell so much as a clamshell to begin with. They did a good thing releasing the 3220, being cheap and sitll fully featured, but they need a clamshell to match...in any case, I would still like S60, and it's sad that the newest one any carrier has is the 7610, and even then, limited availability. It's sad, but I'm thinking of getting the 6620, since it's cheap and still has a good feature set (EDGE, stereo MP3, etc.), but of course I'd want the N90. Any chance T-Mobile will offer that?:p I'd even settle for the 3230...maybe in time for the EDGE debut?? One can only hope...

[cfj03]

I think they do need a killer clamshell because they are now behind Samsung and LG (and they already have the basic-no-2nd-screen-flip-for-your-mom-parents-kids covered) and falling fast. They won't catch them by "matching" them, or putting out fugly phones like the 6255i that is available only on small, regional carriers. Now it DOESN'T have to be s60, because most people just don't need/want apps, but it needs to be a loaded s40 with a SD slot--mini or full but preferably the latter which can be had up to 1gb for as little as $80 (and definitely not the higher priced and harder to find dv rsmmc). Also, they might want to step up and make it a MINIMUM of 1.3mp(and not 2nd rate like the 6230i) WITH macro mode and flash.

Otherwise I think they will become irrelevant here. And I REALLY want to stick with them, but even I have limits. I have left them for three years before and I'll do it again (and I am a guy that spent $250 for a 6620 before I spent $200 for the 7610) .

As it is, I don't expect to see many people with the 7270 and certainly not with the 7280 that they sell for $600 on their website.

But if I get my hands on that BEAUTIFUL, LUCIOUS, SE--, N70 I will be a happy man. :)

[carcomptoy]

Nah, but in order to gain market, you need to cover all the bases; however I do agree that they do need a killer clamshell. It'd be so easy...just making the 6255i GSM. Honestly, the 6255i is a nice phone, just that it needs to be popularized, although it will be later (as evidenced by the commercials). I don't think it's ugly, just conservative, but of course that's to suit the needs of businessmen...if they just redesigned the covers and converted it to GSM, they'd be all set:D

Also, it'd be nice if they finally released a new S60...even the 6260 would suffice, I'M SO DESPERATE!:p

[jmax577]

we will have the 6170 on our shelves soon

[carcomptoy]

How much will it be though? Also, why is it only dualband???

[cfj03]

I think they should do the V3 one better; especially since Moto has that V3 look-a-like with the 2 mp cam with flash, macromode and expandable memory coming up.

I think the 6170 is actually a beautiful phone. Add a 2mp cam with flash, an SD slot(its just cheaper and easier to find; can get 256 at walmart for as low as $14!) and all the other goodies found in the 6230 or 6620(including IR if possible).

As it is though, its like an ounce heavier than the V3 and, if one looks around, one will find people think the V3 is the "greatest" because its "ultra small" even though it is barely smaller than the 6230 (3.9x2.0x0.6 vs 4.0x1.7x0.8).

I suppose they are content with the 8800/01 though I don't know if they will help here in the States with the PEBL and SLVR/LITE coming out too.

[cfj03]

How much will it be though? Also, why is it only dualband???

$389.99 from Nokia, available from a few regional/small carriers (Centennial is one). If you don't travel much and you can afford enough minutes to offset not having m2m or "in" I suppose you can give it a try. I haven't actually checked the subed price, but I figure it has to be atleast a little lower.

[carcomptoy]

It should be cheap, cause honestly, people aren't gonna pay a lot for a phone whose feature set is so-so...

[3gpeasy]

Oh please, I hope you're joking, because honestly, cellphone availability has no reflection on a country's world rank...

Americans just have a more simplistic outlook on cellphones than everyone else, or at least are just barely catching up...

er, yeah i was joking.

the funny thing is, although the US is clearly not in any way a third world country, in some ways (including phones which, lets face it, are what we're interested in) it's actually behind countries that are third world.

[carcomptoy]

That I regret greatly...like in the Philippines I envy all the phoneshops:(

[3gpeasy]

can't you just import stuff? surely there'd be a big market for that

[jayesh]

can't you just import stuff? surely there'd be a big market for that

There is actually a simple reason ..... which i am sure has been highlighted over and over again.... america follows its own standards of gsm bands .....this is a factor in delays of launches of products in the states.
I often find that even amercian bound products "6230b 7610b 6682" etc are often late way after nokia has moved onto its next range and then they return to try and sell these products. development and release of specific products for the states seems to be on no ones agenda ( except moto which is sensible enough to offer quad band ) Thankfully as of late se seems to have gotten into the act so im sure situation will improve in the near future

[3gpeasy]

yeah i meant quad band stuff, or whatever has the frequencies you use where you are...
i mean not everybody would want to import stuff, but if you haven't even got the 6670 there yet... surely that must be driving some people mental

[carcomptoy]

Well, to be honest, most people don't care...most people still think my 3650's at the cutting edge. Well, maybe not...it's really annoying, the most like envied phone is the Danger Hiptop II/T-Mobile Sidekick II, which is a good phone in and of itself, but just way too overrated...

As for the "b" versions, T-Mobile USA doesn't use the 850MHz band, and so there should be no reason for any delay as they use the popular 1900MHz band only that's included in tri-band phones anyways...:confused:

[jmax577]

How much will it be though? Also, why is it only dualband???
i dunno but it is HELLA gay that it is only dual band. btw, we will have the 6682 july 1.

[jmax577]

and they are starting to use our 850 coverage. check tmoile.com.

[carcomptoy]

Where does it say that we're gonna start to use 850?