quick question lg vs. se

[aldogg]

going to buy a phone tomorrow...trying to decide between the se s710a and the lg 535

the problem is that lg is a telus and i can buy a Talk Halifax plan for $500...the details of this plan are 3o bucks CDN for unlimited callign in my city in nova scotia...the reason it is so expensive is b/c the plan hasnt been offered in 4 yrs but still supported by telus and renewable...i am in real estate and am also lookign at the s710...i want a good phone with good pic quality as i will use it quite abit and dont want to carry around a phone and a dig. cam

is the s710 much better ? i like it more! just wondering if anyone knows much about the lg 535...with this plan it is more than worth it on the long run but i love the sony and would get 6 months umlimited with it...anyway to make a short story long...lokking for opinions on thee 2 phones
thanks

[Box215]

LG vs SE isnt even a comparison. Lg is pure crap.

[commedecargons]

yeap~ :D true!

[Jose_R.A.M]

S.E. if i had to spend my money on either of these two id invest in on the s.e.

here are some user reviews of the L.G. http://www.cellphones.ca/cell-phones/phone/259/#

[jtntwozz]

y do u guys say lg is pure crap? please give reasons instead of just making such statements please..

[commedecargons]

maybe not pure crap, but not a competitor to S710. and if it's compared, maybe its as close craps can be. ..

[Box215]

LG phones are neither good looking, or good at what they do.

[Jose_R.A.M]

some lg phones look like samsung ones...theyve got nearly exact camera/button placements...one that looked like the v200..

their u.i. is confusing...at least when making video calls...

[Alliekat]

y do u guys say lg is pure crap? please give reasons instead of just making such statements please..

I have worked for ATT/ Cingular Wireless for several years now, and the LG phones have been nothing but a thorn in my side. I have never had more complaints, defective devices, software issues etc from any other manufacturer. LG has released numerous software upgrades in attempts to fix several critical issues in the LG devices. Issues such as the phone going into emergency only mode, displaying 'channel not available' , 'SOS only' etc. Each time a new verision comes out, you get to pay the 14.99 Warranty Processing fee to exchange your phone for a refurb with the new software. And some of the phone models are now on version 9 -.- Many customers with shareable rateplans complain their LGs get 1-2 bars less signal than the other phones on their account. I have alot of calls about the screens just going blank and not responding. I'd have to say about 1/2 of the tech/troubleshooting calls I get are about LG devices. I wouldnt buy an LG if they were the last phones on earth.
Just my 2 cents. ;)

[cfj03]

I have worked for ATT/ Cingular Wireless for several years now, and the LG phones have been nothing but a thorn in my side. I have never had more complaints, defective devices, software issues etc from any other manufacturer. LG has released numerous software upgrades in attempts to fix several critical issues in the LG devices. Issues such as the phone going into emergency only mode, displaying 'channel not available' , 'SOS only' etc. Each time a new verision comes out, you get to pay the 14.99 Warranty Processing fee to exchange your phone for a refurb with the new software. And some of the phone models are now on version 9 -.- Many customers with shareable rateplans complain their LGs get 1-2 bars less signal than the other phones on their account. I have alot of calls about the screens just going blank and not responding. I'd have to say about 1/2 of the tech/troubleshooting calls I get are about LG devices. I wouldnt buy an LG if they were the last phones on earth.
Just my 2 cents. ;)

Would you buy a Motorola? I ask because, as an ATT/Cing former rep/worker you would know. Me personally, I have NEVER had a problem with LG, but that was on Sprint's network. As for Moto, I would NEVER advise anyone to purchase them because the reception will be non-existant. You would be lucky to get 1-2 bars below anyother phone and even luckier if anyone could hear you. Maybe that is just New Orleans, LA, but as the largest city in Louisiana, I doubt it.

[Alliekat]

Would you buy a Motorola?

I actually own a Moto v300, I'm located in Canada however. I personally have never had a problem with Moto, (other than a few quirks with the phone book,) but in all honesty the GSM network here is a few years ahead of the states. Other than all the bugs in Moto's v600 model (never buy that paperweight - luckily we dont carry it anymore) complaints have been few and far between. I'd have to say though, in terms of reliability I'd go for a Nokia. If signal is a big issue in your area, try a 'bar' phone, flips with internal antennas will generally have more trouble picking up a signal than a bar.

Kat
=^..^=

[cfj03]

Yeah, that's why I went back to Nokia on ATT and continued on Cingular. I have never had a problem with Nokia, but I can't recommend Moto to anyone--TDMA, GSM or anything else. For my money and eight years of experience NOTHING beats a Nokia. Unfortunately their dull styling turns off a lot of people here in the US.

[Box215]

but in all honesty the GSM network here is a few years ahead of the states.

lol, you must be kidding.

[Alliekat]

lol, you must be kidding.

Nope. I was working for ATT at the time of their GSM launch - while you sticklers were still hanging onto TDMA service I already had access to GSM at home. For the Europeans this was even older news, they first launched GSM in 1992. It hasnt really been until this past year I've seen signifigant growth in GSM service/ coverage areas in the US; when ATT began phasing out digital service and dedicating more and more resources to GSM. Hell, our center wasn't even GSM trained until last year. I'm not saying our technology is any different or more advanced, just that we've had a little more time to develop a hardier network.

With the merger of Cingular and ATT, and the new 'All-over' network, I'm sure quality in the US will only grow in leaps and bounds. If you're interested, the 2005 GSM coverage map was published here's a link (http://www.coveragemaps.com/gsmposter.htm). As you can see signifigant improvements have been made. The problem with 'coverage' maps is that they dont actually indicate the quality of the network at all. For this we have an internal 'local network quality tool' which is not published to my knowledge. Basically you pop in your address and it pulls up your street, cell sites/towers and rates the service level in your area from very poor, to excellent. Well I've had enough talk of cellphones for one day, hope I cleared things up. Ciao.

~Kat =^..^=

[SiriusEnigma]

its good that you dont live in the uk becuase there is rumour that that many of the large operators there have stopped selling the s700i because it has so many reliablity issues. networks cant be bothered with it any more because its a liability to them.

didn't lg increase there profits recently while se's profits slumped worldwide?

[Box215]

its good that you dont live in the uk becuase there is rumour that that many of the large operators there have stopped selling the s700i because it has so many reliablity issues. networks cant be bothered with it any more because its a liability to them.

didn't lg increase there profits recently while se's profits slumped worldwide?

Only 2 of them carried it, and one still does

[SiriusEnigma]

really!?

http://www.mobile-review.com/forum2/showthread.php?t=28186

and didn't it fail the tests on some of the others that were wise enough not to bother with it in the first place?

[Box215]

Lol, if you had bothered to read the thread an not be so quick to always dis SE and defend Moto, you sould see it says only o2 discontinued selling the phone. Vodafone still sells it. No other carriers in the UK sold/sell the phone.

[Jose_R.A.M]

i thought lg's media menu was a little intuitive. having thumbnails in grid form, even of videos.

@ seriusenigma, serious question, how old are you? :) im just wondering tas all :D

[Alliekat]

I honestly cant comment on the SE phones as we never carried many of them... Maybe there is a reason for that.... I'll try to look into it when I'm bored at work today, and take a peek at the issues logs in tech and warranty.

[SiriusEnigma]

@ seriusenigma, serious question, how old are you? :) im just wondering tas all :D
what are you saying? :D



Lol, if you had bothered to read the thread an not be so quick to always dis SE and defend Moto, you sould see it says only o2 discontinued selling the phone. Vodafone still sells it. No other carriers in the UK sold/sell the phone.
at the moment its still available on voda. but only for the moment. all the shops and 1 of the 2 remaining operators that have sold it have now stopped selling it.
do you remember all the problems that the k700i, the t610 and t630 had with the shops customers and operators? moto have never had any serious issues like se have. the reason why moto appear to have some more problems in the us is only because of the software that the operators put on the phone. its not a fault with moto. its also the reason why se is unpopular in the uk. moto have never had any issues with their phones in the uk.

[commedecargons]

I have never had a problem with Nokia, but I can't recommend Moto to anyone

Someone would definitely come up and say Moto's fine..... and suddenly turn to SE's real bad...... trust me. :)

[commedecargons]

at the moment its still available on voda. but only for the moment. all the shops and 1 of the 2 remaining operators that have sold it have now stopped selling it.
do you remember all the problems that the k700i, the t610 and t630 had with the shops customers and operators? moto have never had any serious issues like se have. the reason why moto appear to have some more problems in the us is only because of the software that the operators put on the phone. its not a fault with moto. its also the reason why se is unpopular in the uk. moto have never had any issues with their phones in the uk.

lol~ fanboys. Or if u answered Jose's question and if it turned out to be over 21.... then i'd say fanman..... :D LoLz
*hhmm.... can marwan borrow me his jumping LOL...*

[SiriusEnigma]

commedecargons
the truth remains that se have had nothing but problems wheres the motos have been reliable.

SERIOUSEnigma
very witty. you're definitely not a fanman :rolleyes:


i keep on forgetting that this is Planet MobileBurn with its posters of unorthadox opinions :rolleyes:

[commedecargons]

commedecargons
the truth remains that se have had nothing but problems wheres the motos have been reliable.

LoLz.... anyway~ lets have a look at the latest threads from both brand's forums in mobileburn shall we?~ lets see......

[SiriusEnigma]

lets analyse the 'problems' shall we?

cant hear caller
the 'problem' is with the volume level not being turned up. the earpiec volume can be easilty adjusted.

moto v525 problem

thats to do with a person entering the security code 3 times in a row incorrectly. how is that a 'problem'?

mpt and pst problem
thats the software. mpt isnt made by motorola and these problems are nothing to do with problems with the phone. they are to do with problems with windows and the drivers.


do antennas improve weak signal
the signal is more to do with the network. its a good job the person didnt have a t630 , t610, z600, z200, or other se phone.
the person said this:
The phone, a Motorola v220, has terrible signal strength. The biggest problem is inside my office-- 1 or 2 bars of signal is all I get. My last phone -- also a Motorola -- was way better.


stopping the v500 from bleeping
thats not a problem. its called reminder alert. and can be stopped.





so all in all. not a single problem.

[Jose_R.A.M]

what are you saying? :D

im saying how old are you? as in your age, because your profile doesnt say. thas all. honest question.

ou quel âge as-tu ?

even

¿cómo viejo es usted?

or

ilan taon ka ba? << if this makes noooooo sense i havent wrote in this in 15 years

[Box215]

lets analyse the 'problems' shall we?


the 'problem' is with the volume level not being turned up. the earpiec volume can be easilty adjusted.


thats to do with a person entering the security code 3 times in a row incorrectly. how is that a 'problem'?


thats the software. mpt isnt made by motorola and these problems are nothing to do with problems with the phone. they are to do with problems with windows and the drivers.



the signal is more to do with the network. its a good job the person didnt have a t630 , t610, z600, z200, or other se phone.
the person said this:




thats not a problem. its called reminder alert. and can be stopped.





so all in all. not a single problem.

:rolleyes:

[commedecargons]

LoLz....... how determine huh~ :D

[3gpeasy]

do you remember all the problems that the k700i, the t610 and t630 had with the shops customers and operators?

um, no. i don't remember all the problems. must be going mad or something, but i didn't think there were any serious problems

moto have never had any serious issues like se have. .

apart from the miraculous fally-aparty v600's and v220's

the reason why moto appear to have some more problems in the us is only because of the software that the operators put on the phone. its not a fault with moto. its also the reason why se is unpopular in the uk. moto have never had any issues with their phones in the uk.

the US is moto's home market, surely they can't blame everything on forces beyond their control. and is SE all that unpopular in the uk? really?

[commedecargons]

lucky MB is not full of these ****s~~~

[3gpeasy]

its good that you dont live in the uk becuase there is rumour that that many of the large operators there have stopped selling the s700i because it has so many reliablity issues. networks cant be bothered with it any more because its a liability to them.


i'm a big SE fan, so don't get me wrong

but the reason orange never released the s700 was because it failed too many reliability tests.

doesn't make them a bad company though, it looks like there must be something inherently disintegration-prone about swivel phones, look at the v80 for example

[SiriusEnigma]

um, no. i don't remember all the problems. must be going mad or something, but i didn't think there were any serious problems

if you can't remember them, then thats not my problem. why do you think they have such a bad rep?


apart from the miraculous fally-aparty v600's and v220's

you will find that there aren't any v220 or v600 being stopped because of anything to do with reliablity, in the same way as has happened to many SE handsets. it was obviously not on the large scale that SE problems have been encountered


the US is moto's home market, surely they can't blame everything on forces beyond their control. and is SE all that unpopular in the uk? really?

they are very unpopular and mitrusted by people in general, the operators, and the retailers. not surprising really



but the reason orange never released the s700 was because it failed too many reliability tests.

doesn't make them a bad company though, it looks like there must be something inherently disintegration-prone about swivel phones, look at the v80 for example
it wasn't just the hardware that failed the tests. the s700i software failed too.

[Box215]

So how would you like to explain how my friend's v80 decided to stop working the other day? Phone is completely dead.

[commedecargons]

Well, to him; it maybe ur friend's problem. Or it's simply a SE phone in disguise, trying to be a Moto?! :D Anyway, maybe he met 10 faulty SE phones, and at the same time he's surrounded by 1000 un-faulty Motos. :D

[jmax577]

i am a CURRENT employee of cingular, moved over from at and t after the merger. i have been employed here for about 3 years. Motorola phones in general have sucked but the razr was supprisingly bug free, but it should be for the dollars spent (they are down to 200 at least). SE, well, i don't have the greatest opinion of them either. the t62u gait was the WORST mobile EVER. nothing but problems and compalints came from it. and lets not forget the t226 and all of its crappy decssendants. the s710a is horribly over priced and has the slowest ui of any SE, the z500 is more enjoyable to use. as for lg, we have had mediocre luck. the c1300 is trash but the 1400 has proven to be a pretty good phone. its is sold out in a ton of markets and the phone is praised by customers all the time. my 2 cents

[commedecargons]

hhmmm...... S700 is only slow when viewing pictures. IMO, the slowest SE is the notorius T610/630/Z600 siblings.....

S700, is overpriced, definitely. And i dun like the fact that apart from a larger screen, better camera and the cracky (128 limit) memory slot. It's exactly the same as K700, which performed much much better. :)

my 10 cents. :eek:

[jmax577]

still want to get my hands on a mint z600...

[3gpeasy]

still want to get my hands on a mint z600...

why ever would you want to do that?

[jmax577]

its a tight phone....i always liked them and never had one.

[3gpeasy]

they did have a certain coolness to them at the time, bit outdated now though

>>says me, mind, with my collection of microTACs :) (but phones are never cool when they're 2 years old, only when they're either brand new or 10 years+ later)