exciting new clara revelation !!

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3GSM Congress: Sony Walkman – a player? No! A phone by Sony Ericsson [ 01:00 ]

Author: Mineev Ivan Translation by: Anja Rytchkova Send news to friend Discuss in forum

Sony Ericsson has announced its intention to introduce a new phone designed solely for music fans. In this case, I think, one could hardly tell whether it will have more of a phone or more of an MP3-player.

It became know that the device will come out under Sony Walkman brand and will have impressive music opportunities. Particularly, such a phone should be equipped either with much flash-memory or with the integrated HDD. There is still no info. The integrated player will support MP3 and AAC formats. Besides Sony Ericsson is negotiating with music online service Sony Connect to provide music content to the users. Next month there will be more details on the device.


Hmmz ... given the news above ...

my point is

COULD clara be the music phone tt SE has envisioned ?

many expect clara to be announced at cebit on march 1st. my bet is tt clara will be the first SE to feature SD card slot / MS duo slots . this could mean tt clara would be the first walkman phone of SE.

omg

2mpx + SD / MS duo slot + nice screen + mp3 player + nice form factor

the killer phone from SE has arrived

[CRaul]

All that we need is the money to buy one when its available. :)

[Memzee]

I have some more exciting info on Clara than that news story.. ; )

I'll be revealing some soon. :)

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I have some more exciting info on Clara than that news story.. ; )

I'll be revealing some soon. :)



more memzee !! lol lusting for the clara


the clara is turning into SE's surprise package of the year !! christmas comes early... it just keeps getting better

[Valin]

my point is

COULD clara be the music phone tt SE has envisioned ?

many expect clara to be announced at cebit on march 1st. my bet is tt clara will be the first SE to feature SD card slot / MS duo slots . this could mean tt clara would be the first walkman phone of SE.

omg

2mpx + SD / MS duo slot + nice screen + mp3 player + nice form factor

the killer phone from SE has arrived


On the one hand, the back of Clara appears to suggest that the focus for this phone is not on the camera, which might mean this is the music phone Mr. Flint's talking about.

Yet Memzee has just revealed to us that Clara will only have 38MB internal memory. Mr Flint has mentioned that whatever phone it is, it'll be able to store 6 to 7 cds, and I think SE would have more sense (I hope) to have this promise delivered within the phone itself, rather than through the cheap tactic of using MSD pro cards.

So my theory is that the Clara will be their high-end cam phone offering, while similar to the surprise that was the K600i, my gut feeling tells me that SE have at least another high-end phone focused on music up their cunning sleeves... ;)

[Daedalus]

SE using SD cards?

Yeah, you know I think I just saw a pig fly by my window....




Of Course they won't use SD cards! Their SONY Ericsson, notice the SONY part, why in the hell would they use card formats that other manufacturers use when they have their own in house own brand card format? It just would'nt make any logical sense as a business. Sure in an ideal world all phones would have 7-in-1 card readers built in, but it will never happen.

[shaheen]

clara isnt hte walkman phone, there will be other series of phones that are though, hopefully with 4gb hard drives.very soon mp3 players and portable digital cameras will be obsolete the way phone technology is going, soon we will have 4gb, 3.2mp 3x optical symbian powered phones and then we wont need ipods and digital cameras anymore. now thats something worth waiting for

[shaheen]

SE using SD cards?

Yeah, you know I think I just saw a pig fly by my window....




Of Course they won't use SD cards! Their SONY Ericsson, notice the SONY part, why in the hell would they use card formats that other manufacturers use when they have their own in house own brand card format? It just would'nt make any logical sense as a business. Sure in an ideal world all phones would have 7-in-1 card readers built in, but it will never happen.
cause there was news that SE were doing a deal with sandisk or something to get the rights to use SD cards

correct me if im wrong but this is what i heard.

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cause there was news that SE were doing a deal with sandisk or something to get the rights to use SD cards

correct me if im wrong but this is what i heard.

the SD card news is defintely correct ...

hmmz shaheen about 4Gb 3.2mpx phones ... i tihnk maybe the 4Q of the year ?

but theres one tihng i am very sure about. notice tt mostly the jap brands , e.g panasonic and mitsu and sharp have featured SD or mini SD slots in their cards ? moto is using transflash , which if i am not mistaken , a deriative of the MMC .

do remember. of all the lot , SD and mini SD cards are the cheapest

a 512 mb SD card costs just USD 30 today. a 512 mb mini SD card today costs about US 35-40...

logically speaking. SD cards / MMC cards ahave broken through a certain cost / capacity barrier , allowing large volumes of storage at cheap prices.

this would mean tt the music phone can be realised. having a 4Gb or 20gb player esp if its HDD on a music phone its quite overkill cos

a) not many people have like 100 albums worth of digital media to stuff into the players
b) power and bulk. HDD drives even the micro ones consumer more batt and eats into power, whereas flash based memory dosent require power .

if we note the current trend of music phones , most of them are using removable storage.

coupled with SE's purchase of the rights to get e right to produce SD cards, this points the way to SE adopting SD cards in its next generation of phones ? the music phones ?

my bet is based on these reasons

1) high capactity to cost ratio of SD and even mini SD cards
2) HDD would be too much a drain on batt and size
3) MS duo and pro duo are overpriced and currently dun exist in large capacities ( pro duo does but its still significantly expensive enough to kill off the "music phone" concept , it is critical to have cheap avaliable large capacity card)
4) SE cannot compete evenly with nokia / motorola if it insists on using a propertairy medium which is too expensive cost wise... a turn off for consumers who want to up the capacity of their phones

[marwan]

whats the hell is tt??????????????????????????????

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whats the hell is tt??????????????????????????????

it just means tt in future music phones will feature SD cards for capacity to store music.

[marwan]

it just means tt in future music phones will feature SD cards for capacity to store music.


i meant what does tt stands for honey?

[shaheen]

that

[shaheen]

alright people enough OT please..

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back to clara !

[tedwardo]

how hard would it be to put a 4gb hard drive in a phone? not very. how hard would it be to put a 4gb hard drive in a phone and keep it small? a bit harder

[commedecargons]

which sucker would put 4GB worth of data inside his phone anyway? he wouldn't have enough battery to look for it, and may easily forget bout wat was in ther, rendering his 4GB -> useless.

[shaheen]

im getting sick of useless posts so ill be deleting anything that isnt regarding the forum topic

[saluyot]

clara is like t630 greatly enhanced?

[shaheen]

yep, you can call it that, thats why it makes me wonder why its not a T series, instead of K series :S.

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yep, you can call it that, thats why it makes me wonder why its not a T series, instead of K series :S.

hmmz i tot k series was successor to T 6 series ?

hmmz my profiling of the SE family

GSM/UMTS models (position according to price / function class)

low end budget : Z200 , J200i , T20

low end middle class : z500a , K500/F500i , T66 , K600i(probably)

medium - upper business/entertainment : T610/T630 , K700i/c/a , Clara (k900i /K750?)

business smartphone / imaging smartphone : P800, P900, P910i and the S700i

dedicated 3G : z1010 , z800

given the lack of numbers avaliable , clara is likely to be called 7XX

my reasons
1) 2XX series designate budget models
2) 5XX series ( K or F or Z ) designate low mid end models
3) 6XX , 7XX designate upper middle end models ( K and T designation)
4) P 9XX is designate smartphone , so far no duplication of letters and P series has occured yet
5) S700i is the sole swivel type and subsequent swivel types would most likely be classified under S designation (e.g S5050i )

[Memzee]

AFAIK the T-series died with the release of T290i because it lost direction. There was no real underlying uniting feature of T-series handset, other than form factor, and there were too many models already present.

[tedwardo]

i thought the t series became extinct as well, although clara does look more like a t630 than a k700
also what does AFAIK mean?

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AFAIK the T-series died with the release of T290i because it lost direction. There was no real underlying uniting feature of T-series handset, other than form factor, and there were too many models already present.

yeap ! but it was mostly middle class ... even within T series can find some distinction

T6XX = middle / higher end
T2XX = budget low end

[shaheen]

afaik = as far as i know

i think so

[commedecargons]

IMO, rather than putting a whole team of SE engineers or marketeers to set a name to a phone which fits in the product family tree..... SE is just asigning marketeers or advertisers to set a name which would sell well and would proclaim its designated market to the masses by the familiarity of the serie's name? Anyone thought of y SE came out with K700? K series suddenly? why not T? wats wrong with K700 being T630's successor? A greatly improved successor? It's just that after the exposure of K700's pic in the video SE banned, everyone thought it was the T650, if it did came out with T650 and confirmed, it would greatly hurt the sales of T630 which were to be launch 1 month after the video leaked. They simply changed it so that it would not make customers hold or wait to buy the T630