6230i real after all?

[Viipottaja]

In rumours section of Mobile-Review.com there is a link to a Japanese or Korean website with apparent new pics of the rumoured 6230i:

http://www.pgcw.com/prodshow.asp?ProdId=6230i

(Link did not work every time)

Best to take it with a grain of salt at this point I guess, but if true, the specs would rock: 128*160 (although looks more square so could even be 208*208? Or, in worse case just the old 128*128), MP3, MMC, 1.3mp camera! Let's hope it is real..

[Daedalus]

I was about to discredit this, but after looking at the pictures I have to say it DOES seem somewhat more realistic than the original crappy pic that we've seen before.

I mean, if the screen res is still 128x128 then I would'nt really give it a second look. However, take a look at this:

http://pic.pgcw.com/2005/01/6230i/6230i_10.JPG

Now does'nt that seem like a higher resolution than 128x128? In order to display those characters that clearly you'd need more than 128x128.

And the fact that theres more than 1 shot of the handset this time? And that there are several comparison shots to a 6230? Seems more realistic.

HOWEVER, it then occured to me, the silver one (for the time being we'll say 6230i) could just be a regular 6230 with a different (third party) fascia on it to help counteract the annoying 'middle button' problem :)



EDIT: Just had another look, check this out:

http://pic.pgcw.com/2005/01/6230i/6230i_23.JPG

Thats usually enough proof. I mean yes it could have been editing and the 'i' could have been stuck on very easily. Then again I fail to see why somebody would go to SO much effort to create a hoax (making own fascia for 6230 with new middle button and new camera label, making fake screenshots, editing labels on back of 6230 etc etc).

Then again I could be totally wrong, could be a complete fake :)

[Viipottaja]

Yep, I am kinda starting to believe too. Or at least that such prototypes have been produced - whether they will release it is another matter. Speculation is that the screen could be the new 208*208 size Nokia has said they will use in some models. That would be fab, that's what, 26 rows of text? What is suspicious is the small size of the camera lens, could that really be a 1.3mp camera?

[Daedalus]

Just because its a small lens does'nt mean its not Megapixel. The one on my D500 is about the same size as the one on my V500, so I don't think lens size makes a difference.

[Ruler_70]

It still dont beleive its real. Nokia is NOT releasing 'i' versions anymore!!!! That looks a normal 6230.

[TheZodiac]

Good sluething Daedalus. Seeing is believing, and I tend to believe tech usually out grows tech - in other words, companies will always want to improve on a succesful existing design to capture sales from prior adopters of that design.

The screen dosnt look so squarish, as some posts have indicated. It could be just a nicer screen being used.

[stars]

old news bro ~! mobile review.com posted an article about a possible 6230i release ... but nokia came bakc quicky with a press release that no subvariants of the 6230 / 6300 would be released

[Viipottaja]

Stars, yes, we have all seen these rumors before and some bad photoshopped fake pics. As you can see, the pics this time look much more real. And the new PC Suite has support for a 6230i model. So, we'll see.

Zodiac, the chinese site said the screen is 160*128 so you may be right. Others have speculated 208*208. I think it is more likely to be 160*128, but fingers crossed. And yes of course companies are trying to improve on tech all the time.

[jmax577]

i models are still very much being made. the 6820i was just announced for the us market. check it out on nokia.com. i am pretty sure its the same as the 6822 but the i still is being used.

[DEViANT]

Well, if Nokia is releasing a phone like this late in the year, does it not surprise any of you that it is using MMC and not RS-MMC or DV RS-MMC even? Consdering every one of Nokia's phone recently have used some RS derivative.

[Daedalus]

Not really considering that because of the 'i' form factor its going to have minor hardware and software upgrades, such as improved cam and possibly screen too.

Changing the type of card format in it would require redesigning most of the phone's insides and shuffeling them about to fit a different card reader. Nokia's engineers have an easy time on this one because is a simple swap over for the camera and screen really. Changing the card reader would bring up a whole other mess of stuff, like changing the main circuit board to fit it in and changing the casing too.

Besides, just because RS is the newest does'nt mean everyone wants to use it. I know plently of people with 6230's and other MMC devices who don't particulary like the idea of splashing out a small fortune of upgrading all their cards to RS-MMC for no reason, so this might be ideal for them.

Its supposed to be an ideal upgrade for the average joe user who currently has a 6230.

[DEViANT]

Well, I'm sure if one was coming out Michael will know, I'll ask him if he's heard anything. Nokia is driving DV RS-MMC for a reason, even if it meant redesigning the internals I wouldn't put it past them.

[Memzee]

Personally I think the proto in the pictures is real, but the question is whether or not Nokia still have intentions of releasing it.

[DEViANT]

It has a 160 x 128 pixel display? Yet, the '6230i' has a square display still? Something doesn't add up right? I'm also not convinced it is sharper than the 6230's display, if it is real, I'd suspect it is using the same display - partly because 'i' revisions tend to use similar hardware.

[Karim]

It's a real phone. It has a 208x208 display.

[im92109210]

well if someone has a normal 6230 with chinese or japanese or what ever that language is and get a same kind of screen shot as the one above and just compare and see the screen sizes and stuff ?

[Memzee]

AFAIK the display is 208*208, and to give an example of hardware changes between a standard model and 'i' revision - 6610i has a camera, while 6610 doesn't.

[Karim]

Also:
9210i has more memory than 9210 (internal)
8910i has a color display

[Memzee]

just compare and see the screen sizes and stuff ?
That wouldn't really work. Two screens with identical resolution can have different physical sizes, while two screens with different resolutions can have the same physical size - it all depends on the pixel per inch ratio.

Eg - T630 has 128*160, K700i has 176*220. Both have the same physical size, which means that K700i has smaller pixels, more pixels per inch, and sharper overall display.

It works in the same way that the 6230i is 208*208 while having the same physical size, and sharper overall display.

[Toocool]

That wouldn't really work. Two screens with identical resolution can have different physical sizes, while two screens with different resolutions can have the same physical size - it all depends on the pixel per inch ratio.

Eg - T630 has 128*160, K700i has 176*220. Both have the same physical size, which means that K700i has smaller pixels, more pixels per inch, and sharper overall display.

It works in the same way that the 6230i is 208*208 while having the same physical size, and sharper overall display.

Couldnt agree with u more! The screen size can be the same but the resolutions is what matters! Simple example is your PC screen!

[DEViANT]

Yes, I said similar hardware, so small-ish upgrades like a colour display, a memory bump or camera are relatively small and easy to implement for Nokia. However this Nokia upgrade from 6230 to apparent 6230i seems to include a new screen, new OS and new camera which seems too much to not be a new phone. Maybe I'm just being skeptical but I'll believe it when I see it and for now (I'm afraid) I just don't see it.

[zalameh1]

I'll believe it when I see it and for now (I'm afraid) I just don't see it.

i agree.. i dont know why but i just dont believe that this is true.. in spiderman's words "my Nokia sense in tingiling" ... well its not really spiderman's words but spiderman says stuff like that.

[TheZodiac]

S40.v2 tops off at 128x160.... count the pixels! :) This really cant be 208x208 unless the S40.v2 specs changed. Correct?


In either direction..... doesnt a letter addition historically on a Nokia mean something other (less substantial) than a big hardware upgrade? Hmmmmmm...

I hope this is a real phone..... I like it and need smaller one to tote around bot my "bat phone" :)

[Toocool]

i dont think its gonna be 6230i if there are huge upgrades in the phone! It maybe something else say Nokia 6250??

[DEViANT]

i dont think its gonna be 6230i if there are huge upgrades in the phone! It maybe something else say Nokia 6250??

That's already a phone, specifically a DCT-3 class tough phone (it's ridiculously strong: waterproofed, shock-proof, etc.).

[Karim]

It would be, except for the fact that the Nokia 6250 already exists.
TheZodiac, S40 doesn't top off at 128x160, the 7280 already has 104x208 pixels and that's more than 128x160.