>>> Possible iPOD Phone ! <<<

[mystickid]

In the near future iPOD may create an iPOD phone. Here is the article from engadget.com I have included the picture its at the bottom. :)

"Not that we ever think Apple is going to do a cellphone—it’s hard to imagine Steve Jobs wanting to deal with the messy (and incredibly messed up) world of wireless carriers and handset manufacturers—but Isamu Sanada (who specializes in Apple-related concept designs) has rolled out his vision for the hiPod Phone, which basically looks like an iPod mini with a color screen and a dial pad attachment."

[shaheen]

what in the name of....

[mundets]

Wow. I like it. A lot.
I just hope that it has a camera, and the keypad slides up...

[Ruler_70]

Looks cool, just a bit big.

[JoN]

pffft! i'd rather not have one of those!!! ------besides, Apple say they dont like multimedia devices, "dedicted is best"!

meh!! [[calm down iPod hater]] :D

[Ni+Mh]

Looks kinda weird. An iPod + Phone? Hmm

[3ple4]

Instead of an iPod phone, maybe Apple should make a smartphone.

[mundets]

Apple say they dont like multimedia devices, "dedicted is best"!Ha! Isn't a computer a multimedia device?!

[nk_au]

I guess some of us (especially me) are interested in this IpodPhone ... because we haven't seen a proper phone that Nokia's made with Stereo Mp3 ...

*sigh*

[mundets]

So true, so true.
A bit off topic, but, does the 3230 have stereo mp3?

[Sid]

I really do wish Apple would make an iPhone, but it doubt it will happen anytime soon. The phone biz is very complicated when you have to deal with operators, retailers, non-Apple distributors etc.

[Viipottaja]

Heh, Mundets, dude, where would the keypad slide up to? Under the navi wheel, where the harddrive is? :)

[JoN]

Ha! Isn't a computer a multimedia device?!

Hey! Tell that to Apple!! :p :D

[FonzCam]

Motorola and Apple anounced back in July that they are working together on making all of Motorolas 'mass market music' phones itunes compatiable. Hopefuly it won't just be like WMP on Windows Mobiles or Realplayer on Series 60. Maybe a flip phone with external controls and iPod interface on the external screen +_a few GB of microdrive storage.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/07/30/motorola_apple_iphone/ for the story of the Apple/Moto deal

[JoN]

Motorola and Apple anounced back in July that they are working together on making all of Motorolas 'mass market music' phones itunes compatiable. Hopefuly it won't just be like WMP on Windows Mobiles or Realplayer on Series 60. Maybe a flip phone with external controls and iPod interface on the external screen +_a few GB of microdrive storage.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/07/30/motorola_apple_iphone/ for the story of the Apple/Moto deal

iDream On!!!! :rolleyes:

[justop26]

I think that deal was just to make the iTunes software included in future Motorola phones... And allow direct buying from the device. I hardly think iPod interfaces will be part of the cellphone... Maybe Nokia would be interested in that... :rolleyes:

@Mundets: Just read on ThreeGMobile: However, the existence of dual-mono Mp3 music playback becomes a shame for Nokia smartphones.

Shame...

[Daedalus]

Its only a concept design, only an idiot would release it looking like that. I'm sure if it ever happens they'll seperate it out from the ipod, and introduce a new part of the i range, like currently its the iPod and iMac, now we just need the iCell or iPhone (whatever you think sounds better) and the iCam :)

[Jose_R.A.M]

oooh...a phone with 60 gb memory!...i cant even imagine the price of this

[jolo]

I guess some of us (especially me) are interested in this IpodPhone ... because we haven't seen a proper phone that Nokia's made with Stereo Mp3 ...

*sigh*
The 3300, 6230, 6630, 7710, 9300, 9500 all have decent stereo mp3 players & mmc support. What's your problemwith those?

[YJT]

I use to think that the day apple enters the cell phone industry they'd be the first to bring in a touch sensitive keypad seeing how they already did that with the ipod.. BUT the V3 beat them to it! the design posted doestn' seem to have a touch sensitive keypad at all for the phone portion.. :(

[TheZodiac]

wow........ yall fell for it ! hahahaa...............

[Daedalus]

Lol, no one here really reads do they?

Its a CONCEPT design that someone's made, its not a real product, just because it doe'snt have a 'touch sensitive' keypad etc does'nt make it any more real, its just a CONCEPT, NOT REAL.

And the V3 hasn't got a touch sensitive keypad, what on earth are you on about?

And Apple were'nt the first company to produce touch-sensitive controls, look at almost all laptops from the past 4/5 years, all PDA's, the Pxxx series and loads of others. Ok, so their touch screens rather than keypads, but even so, their not the first to do it.

[YJT]

Hey guys, yes I did read the start of the thread and yes i know it was a concept etc...

I was talking in the context assuming that the concept was to be the first apple phone.

All I was saying was, that IF apple was to ever design or come up with any sort of Mobile Phone I'd expect them to have a touch sensitive pad. BECAUSE the ipod had a touch sensitive pad.. in this concept, there was NO touch sensitive pad for the mobile phone part and I thought that even for a concept from apple, i'd expect a touch sensitive keypad.

When i said the V3 beat them to it.. I was trying to put forth my thoughts that I didn't think that any mobile company would come up with touch sensitive controls for their mobile phones and that I thought that it would be apple that would do that once they entered the mobile phone industry, if they do. I was trying to say that i was a little upset that Moto beat them to it since i'm a big fan of apple.

Ohh and the part about laptops having touch sensitive controls.. well thats just TOO BLATANTLY OBVIOUS isn't it???????????????? you'd have to be a 5 year old toddler to not know that.. I was talking about a touch sensitive keypad for a cell phone.. I wasn't talking about laptops.

Also, the touch sensitive screen isn't the same as touch sensitive keypad. the reason is because a screen and a keypad are different things.

The apple ipod has a dedicated touch sensitive control on their mobile device which was a first.. although they didn't actually design that part of the ipod themselves.

Anyway, you guys really should read in between the lines and not jump to conclusions so abruptly.

[Jose_R.A.M]

just wanna point out i didnt think its real...but the ocntext of my post suggest sotherwise..i dont like it. its not very practical.

[Ruler_70]

Yeah i think the concept looks ugly, plus the keypad plugout is pretty stupid cause you never know when you going to use your phone, when someone decides to call you.

[tedwardo]

yeh it would have to have
megapixel camera
bluetooth
apple bluetooth headset
stereo speakers
slidey keyboard
60gb hard drive
DREAM music player/phone

[JoN]

I said it b4 and i'll say it again..... iDream On!!! :D

[puppy]

It's never going to happen...

[Ruler_70]

Well it might but not by Apple. Maybe if Nokia releases a "Neo" with HD we might see an iPod rival.

[commedecargons]

check it out.. iPHONE

[JoN]

definately "something borrowed" :P ...........i wont be suprised if the two [insert insult] of the electronics world would work to gether to create something like that. the perfect couple, Apple and SonyEricsson.

[commedecargons]

SonyAppleson ??? or SopleApricsson ?? :D

[tedwardo]

iPhone.... A Sony Appleson Creation

I like it....

and it looks like a t610 keypad on a f****d up ipod

[commedecargons]

IT is .... heheh wats with the Sony AppleSON ?? Ericsson involvement? :D

[Ruler_70]

Well doesnt Sony and Apple work together?

[commedecargons]

when?~ my avatar ?? :D

[kris33]

Maybe real:
http://www.russellbeattie.com/notebook/images/iphone.jpg

Concept art:
http://www.esato.com/gfx/apple_r04a.jpg
http://www.esato.com/gfx/apple_r04b.jpg
http://www.esato.com/gfx/apple_r04c.jpg

[shaheen]

u gota login to esato to view those. anyway according to bengalboy the phone will be called the MotoPod. collabo between ipod and motorola..(duh!). 4gb storage and phone

[commedecargons]

anyone had the hyperlink to the pics?? pls~~?~??

[tedwardo]

in the 'say hello to everyone' pic the phone/ipod looks awful!

[commedecargons]

at least it looked better than alot of phones~~

[Ramses]

I found this in one finnish website. Is it the first real photo from iPhone??

http://www.mobiilimaailma.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=21&Itemid=2

[TheZodiac]

One I made..... how simple it is.

http://www.azmosys.com/cells/motiphone.jpg
Of course the screen flips upside down for either closed or open mode.. and also acts as the ipod interface as well as phone info. Yay.

source:
http://www.godmode.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4783

[yaris1001]

If I remember right that picture of the "say hello to everyone" iPod phone was in the back of T3 or Stuff gadgets magazines a long time ago and at the bottom it said something like "if only it were true" meaning it was a mock up of a SonyEricsson T610 and an iPod screen running Mac OSX. Never gonna happen.

[n3tfury]

anyone had the hyperlink to the pics?? pls~~?~??

i second this.

hi, this is my first post here, and i like pie.

[tedwardo]

MotoPod? I think MotiPod sounds better

[shaheen]

well its cause its a collabortation between motorola and ipod. you have to have themotorola in the name. thus motopod.

[Ruler_70]

Yeah i think MotoPod sounds more appropriate.

[tedwardo]

well i still prefer MotiPod

[Jose_R.A.M]

Yeah i think MotoPod sounds more appropriate.
iLike MotoPod. iWas thinkin bout "MoPod" (SOUNDS LIKE More Pod"), THEN iRealised that it sounded like MOPED, (bike)!

(note the "i"Ness above, lol)
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its CHRISTMAS!

[nk_au]

Very creative lol :D

[commedecargons]

no .... wrong..... V80 was called Rotomoto...... so maybe the ipod phone would be called podomoto.... hehehe :D

[Jose_R.A.M]

no .... wrong..... V80 was called Rotomoto...... so maybe the ipod phone would be called podomoto.... hehehe :D
kewl! but it looses the minimum syllabulliness (ive made up a word yes)that I pod had. Imagine saying,

"ive brought my ipod today" or
"ive got my motopod"...

then "ive got a podomoto in today" (sounds like pedometer, that step counting device)

Did anyone actually call the v80 ROTOMOTO?

Could also call it "iMOT". simple, sounds like moto soundsl ike ipod.

[newso]

http://gallery.ipodlounge.com/ipod/thumbnails.php?album=4

this is all bollox, that pic is from the gallery above, check it out

[Jose_R.A.M]

http://gallery.ipodlounge.com/ipod/thumbnails.php?album=4

this is all bollox, that pic is from the gallery above, check it out
omg theres like a a gagillion of them! wwoooaah

[Jose_R.A.M]

this may seem obvious to many, but its so cool how some of the concepts came true, like many of the 4th gen ones. maybe theres an iPhone in the not too distant future

[commedecargons]

hopefullly~~~

[stars]

this may seem obvious to many, but its so cool how some of the concepts came true, like many of the 4th gen ones. maybe theres an iPhone in the not too distant future

seriouslly unlikely. handphone market is so fragmented. if apple wants to muscle its way into the industry .

1) it needs a huge amount of money to play catch up with nokia / SE / LG
2) it needs a huge publicity blitz
3) it needs some unique niche / outstanding quality about its products to define them in today's saturated handset market.

apple is unlikely to do so. $ spent trying to muscle its way in , is more than $ earned from it.

[tedwardo]

Yeh, but apple is a major brand, if they put on the phone box "from the makers of the iPod" then there phones will sell, its like having a multimillion ad campaign already, and once they're popular in the market then they will have less problems selling there iPhones

[commedecargons]

Apple can just launch something new, imagine an iPOD Photo with GSM, Bluetooth, multiple cardslots not for enhancing memory, but to act as a card reader for users to copy their pictures, videos, and mp3s into the iPOD, then a bundled-in bluetooth headset finishes the job. It will be a whole new concept, a 60GB multiple media player, that acts as ur phone, organizer, simple gaming; in which u speak thru the headset, refreshes ur memory card after u took hundreds of photos from ur 5 megapixel camera, it would be a whole new device, a portable media storage device, which is a phone as well !

[stars]

Yeh, but apple is a major brand, if they put on the phone box "from the makers of the iPod" then there phones will sell, its like having a multimillion ad campaign already, and once they're popular in the market then they will have less problems selling there iPhones

i really gotta disagree on this. its like putting the sony name on cars and saying , its a sony . flood the market with slick marketing ads and people will buy it ?

some might.

but just like cars and phones, u cant rush into the market without some form of technology. remember, apples has and always has focused on slickly designed powerful PCS more for media and design work. its family of products are designed to complement and go with each other. how would a phone fit into its portable music profile ?

a) it has to be flash / ext mem storage based. the 1.5gb mircohardisks are really big . you wanna buy a ipod sized phone ?
b) the trend that consumer electronics has been going towards convergence and super devices . but has the industry realised soemthing ? people wan convenience and convergence. but no body wants a super PDA + handphoen+ camera + mp3 player. at some point , people realise the features arent quality features. a ipod represents quality music / audio ecquipment. by " selling out " to handphones , apple ipod image will be gone to the dogs

c) now phones are becoming super infused communication + entertainment devices. should apple "sell out" to mass market , retailing the ipod design and ipon music feature to the masses ? and will the ipod still retain its cultlike yuppie status among the buyers ? last time owning an ipod was cool cos it was unique funky and a great audio device. its definitive of who and what you are. a fashion statement , a yuppie symbol . cos it was exclusive. its price bracket targeted the yuppie class. with Massproduction and the loss of exclusivity in thousands of ipod , will there be a difference between the ipod and the thousands of dinky little korean , singaporean and taiwanese made mp3 players ?

[shaheen]

well samsung has stepped up the mp3 player HD crossover to phone industry with their latest line up called THOR with a 3gb harddrive. now thats hot

[commedecargons]

Samsung is crazy..... they did not do what a phone should, yet they do many a phone doesn't. 5 Megapixels, TV Tuners, 3GBs.... just when will they come up with a phone that burn DVDs ...?!?!

[Jose_R.A.M]

Samsung is crazy..... they did not do what a phone should, yet they do many a phone doesn't. 5 Megapixels, TV Tuners, 3GBs.... just when will they come up with a phone that burn DVDs ...?!?!
true! its probably the only reason i would buy a samsung because they offer some one-off cool feature.

[commedecargons]

but they never brought it to GSM world!! they only show us pics (for downloading purposes) all they brought to GSM world was those cheesy clamshells with no pearls inside! and one more thing.... they seriously needed some new design aspects..... running out of ideas for their clammys????~~

[stars]

but they never brought it to GSM world!! they only show us pics (for downloading purposes) all they brought to GSM world was those cheesy clamshells with no pearls inside! and one more thing.... they seriously needed some new design aspects..... running out of ideas for their clammys????~~

+1

i seriouslly suspect samsung is turning into another "nokia"

great looking phones that look all the same ( see the e700a and all the new models)

its becoming like nokia , releasing a truckful of phones with basically same features. and not really QUALITY features at that too.

samsung has nice phones ( anyone remember the T-500) but break no new market ground and are NOT popular

[commedecargons]

They 'ARE' already the eastern Nokia. They know how to market their products well, manage to segment all their products into various markets, (although with almost identical functionalities) NOkia ofcourse, still does a better job than they do.... Samsung's sort of 'groundbreaking' are more for advertising purposes, first bla bla bla, first bla bla bla, largest bla bla bla......

[stars]

They 'ARE' already the eastern Nokia. They know how to market their products well, manage to segment all their products into various markets, (although with almost identical functionalities) NOkia ofcourse, still does a better job than they do.... Samsung's sort of 'groundbreaking' are more for advertising purposes, first bla bla bla, first bla bla bla, largest bla bla bla......

i feel the smsung marketing divison churns out better ads then nokia. besides , samsung has

1) better build quality than nokia
2) better design engineers / R &D staff
3) more innovative designs ( a clik wheel ripped off from a ipod ? pls nokia ... pay ur people better and they might come up with something beter)

haha brother comme ! they are a better "nokia of the east"

[commedecargons]

err.... i do doubt the better design statement thou~~ hehe...... i like finnish design better than the old-so-plain-lookin-silverish-samsungish-looks........

[YJT]

I thought this was about a 'possible ipod phone'? why is everyone talking about nokia versus Samsung?

anyway IMO an apple phone will sell lots, apple has a firm grasp on the trust of their customers since they always end up putting quality products on the market that are free from glitches and well built. their products don't depreciate and hence all maintain their value and individuality.. in the cell phone world of today devices become out-dated and obsolete too fast, i'm really sick of buying new cell phones myself now. i'll be willing to buy something and know that its going to maintain value over time. For the tech -savvy and tech freaks an ipod phone probably won't be ideal but for the general public thats a different story.

also, my take on Samsung? When are those Great 5MPX and 3GB cell phones going to hit the shores of NZ? They are all overpriced if you ask me. you end up paying for the looks of the phone and we all know that looks only last a few weeks.

[stars]

I thought this was about a 'possible ipod phone'? why is everyone talking about nokia versus Samsung?

anyway IMO an apple phone will sell lots, apple has a firm grasp on the trust of their customers since they always end up putting quality products on the market that are free from glitches and well built. their products don't depreciate and hence all maintain their value and individuality.. in the cell phone world of today devices become out-dated and obsolete too fast, i'm really sick of buying new cell phones myself now. i'll be willing to buy something and know that its going to maintain value over time. For the tech -savvy and tech freaks an ipod phone probably won't be ideal but for the general public thats a different story.

also, my take on Samsung? When are those Great 5MPX and 3GB cell phones going to hit the shores of NZ? They are all overpriced if you ask me. you end up paying for the looks of the phone and we all know that looks only last a few weeks.

the 5 mpx phone is slated for a europe release in 3q or 2q gsm edition releas e... its really more of a camera than a phone


http://store.apple.com/1800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/singaporeSmallBiz.woa/80610/wo/uO60IKt3Hlz32PtB7O3PxSbYNwJ/3.0.0.11.1.0.6.9.1.1.0.1.0.0.0.1.0

check tt out fellass

[shaheen]

yea the shuffle :D. im checking it out tomorrow

[Punter]

yea the shuffle :D. im checking it out tomorrow

Yea...tht new iPod shuffle is quite cool...and also its hard to believe that Apple can produce such things...i mean, where have u seen a 1GB mp3 player as small as a chewing gum packet??...well theyve might be some around....Apple is all about making things in small sizes, even theyve released Mac mini, which is also small...

Whts gonna come out frm apple next??...a matchbox ipod?.. :rolleyes:

[Punter]

yea the shuffle :D. im checking it out tomorrow

U mean the new iPod shuffle? Yea...tht new iPod shuffle is quite cool...and also its hard to believe that Apple can produce such things...i mean, where have u seen a 1GB mp3 player as small as a chewing gum packet??...well theyve might be some around....Apple is all about making things in small sizes, even theyve released Mac mini, which is also small...

Whts gonna come out frm apple next??...a matchbox ipod?.. :rolleyes:

[JoN]

Now tell me, are you saying that all other solid state MP3 players are the size of Jumbo Jets?? So big you need a backpack to carry??
What is so clever about not being able to SEE your playlist?? Are we going back in time here?? Has the recent advancements of color OLED screens on solid state mp3 players, been i waste of time???
And what is so revolutionary about playing you music in order or randomly???

Dont tell me is just cos' its called APPLE??? that would just be sad!! :rolleyes:

[shaheen]

i bought the ipod shuffle. and let me be the first to tell you, its the definition of BASIC. its as basic as a rock. its basically just play and pause for this thing. i got it cause i needed a cheap player. and it was perfect price. dont get me wrong, i still hate apple with a vengeance. and yea, JoNs right, there are alot more 1gb mp3 players smaller then the shuffle

[JoN]

Yes, i'd buy the shuffle if i wanted a cheap basic solid state mp3 player (does it actually play mp3s or just AAC(protected)? ), but folks shouldnt make it sound like the best thing since potato waffles...cos' it isnt!!!


Edit: OMG agreeing with Shaheen!! whats the world coming to?? :p

[shaheen]

it plays mp3s, but only if transferred through itunes

[Daedalus]

Just seen it, and boy does that sound like a crap idea. 1GB memory but no screen? Are we living in the dark ages or something? In the UK we've got 1GB solid state players that are thinner than the shuffle with a colour OLED screen, voice recorder, FM-Radio and a brushed aluminium finish for around £99.

[n1ghtFLY]

it plays mp3s, but only if transferred through itunes

well kinda OOT but just wondering so is it possible to hook the shuffle via USB and act as a USB storage then transfer MP3 that way ???

or the only possible thing is via iTunes..

thanks

[stars]

Just seen it, and boy does that sound like a crap idea. 1GB memory but no screen? Are we living in the dark ages or something? In the UK we've got 1GB solid state players that are thinner than the shuffle with a colour OLED screen, voice recorder, FM-Radio and a brushed aluminium finish for around £99.

erm ? tts at least a good US$ 70 dollars more than the shuffle ?

[Daedalus]

I'd still rather pay the extra for a screen, MP3 player are useless without them in my opinion...

[marwan]

well kinda OOT but just wondering so is it possible to hook the shuffle via USB and act as a USB storage then transfer MP3 that way ???

or the only possible thing is via iTunes..

thanks


if it's anything like the iPod, then no you cannot even see the MP3s when hooking up your iPod to the PC as an external drive. it's only through iTunes than you can see MP3s/AAC.

[Daedalus]

HA! The shuffle has just been released for sale in the UK @ £99!! Thats the same price as the slimmer one with the OLED screen I was talking about. It'll still sell loads, but its idiots that will be buying them.

[commedecargons]

i understand wat u guys were murmuring about... but it's the first flash based mp3 player that i liked. ofcourse there's alot of taiwan made mp3 players that rock, i saw one with MP3, WMA, AAC, FM Radio, Voice Rec, 3.2MP camera, and a 1.5 inch oled 262k color screen MP3 player (still called mp3 player huh?~ ) it's crazy, but it sounded more like gimmicks with 128MB built in with a SD/MMC slot. The size is about 3 of my middle finger. But to me, buying gadgets; LOOKS are very important, and iPOD shuffle rocks for that. And it's simplicity is really cool~~

[JoN]

commedecargons???? you what??? that cant be you?? someone hacked your account, cos' crap like that aint coming from mah dude. Please, get off his aacount now, or i keeel you ded!!!


the nerve!! thinking all mp3 players are like that....-_-;;

[shaheen]

well kinda OOT but just wondering so is it possible to hook the shuffle via USB and act as a USB storage then transfer MP3 that way ???

or the only possible thing is via iTunes..

thanks
yep, you can use its a mass storage device, you can even just drag and drop songs into it to CARRY just cant listen to it unless transferred thru itunes.


and commedecargons has a point like mine, simplicity brings down price and frankly looks matter alot to me, i dont want to carry a brick of a mp3 player that has all the fucntions in the world and niether do i want to spend so much on an mp3 player that looks good but has crap functions like the normal Ipod.

[commedecargons]

The first time i saw it..... i knew i'm in love with it..... and regarding the screen and "ONLY SHUFFLE" mode....... who would people load songs they dun like into their mp3 players? whats wrong listening to ur songs in shuffle mode????

[shaheen]

there is also a normal play mode for the shuffle, you dont have to always use shuffle.
my only gripe is no EQ but my KOSS earphones pump alot of bass

[marwan]

iPod shuffle is a glorified piece of crap!

[shaheen]

you mean the ipod is. the shuffle isnt, its worth it for its price tag, there is very few 512mb mp3 players for 150 bux(aus) around here.

[marwan]

you mean the ipod is. the shuffle isnt, its worth it for its price tag, there is very few 512mb mp3 players for 150 bux(aus) around here.


How is the ipod crap? it's one of the best in the market, i have a collection of music over 120 CDs, the iPod has proven very usefull and convinient for me.

on the shuffle, if you have 40 songs on there, how the F*%$ would you search for a perticular title when you dont have a display to see the tracks ID? tape the skip track 3 times to find a track? i think the shuffle is crap(looks good though, typical apple). with that money id get something else worth getting instead.

[shaheen]

dont make me repeat myself, the ipod is too expensive for an mp3 player that has so little functions and is forced to use itunes and has a battery that WILL die in a few years and cant be replaced. for 100-150US dollars less you can get mp3 players that obliterate it in every aspect.

and with the shuffle i dont really care about looking for a song cause i know theyre all good and why would you search for one song in particular? i never did even with my other 4 mp3 players i own. and its cheap :). good enough reason for me

[marwan]

dont make me repeat myself, the ipod is too expensive for an mp3 player that has so little functions and is forced to use itunes and has a battery that WILL die in a few years and cant be replaced. for 100-150US dollars less you can get mp3 players that obliterate it in every aspect.

and with the shuffle i dont really care about looking for a song cause i know theyre all good and why would you search for one song in particular? i never did even with my other 4 mp3 players i own. and its cheap :). good enough reason for me


no repeat yourself!



the iPod is the best for many reason, the support it's getting from other 3rd party companies is a reason enough to own, radio transmiters, voice recorder, detachable speakers....so many to mention. go check griffin and belkin, and see what they have for the iPod. the newer ipod last longer, if you chage often you wont have a problem with the battery

and no your not stuck with iTunes, you could use music match Juke box (http://www.musicmatch.com/)

besides, iTunes gets the job done anyways.

why would i wanna skip tracks? it has nothing with how good the music i have on there, but if wanna listen to track 37, then it means i want to listen to 37...plain and simple!

[marwan]

i never did even with my other 4 mp3 players i own.


wow, sounds like your cellphone purchases all over again! :rolleyes:

[shaheen]

no repeat yourself!



the iPod is the best for many reason, the support it's getting from other 3rd party companies is a reason enough to own, radio transmiters, voice recorder, detachable speakers....so many to mention.
eer, well hate to break this to you but many of this extra things are already interated into most mp3 players and everyone will agree ipod accessories are hella expensive so who cares?

go check griffin and belkin, and see what they have for the iPod. the newer ipod last longer, if you chage often you wont have a problem with the battery

not everyone can change often.

and no your not stuck with iTunes, you could use music match Juke box (http://www.musicmatch.com/)
the fact that you have to use software AT ALL to transfer music is ridiculous, it should just be drag and drop into it like Irivier and Creative mp3 players.

besides, iTunes gets the job done anyways.
and so it does. LIKE A CAMEL! ive had nothing but problems with it and same goes with alot of my friends and forumers ive known.

why would i wanna skip tracks? it has nothing with how good the music i have on there, but if wanna listen to track 37, then it means i want to listen to 37...plain and simple! well then in that case swithc th Ordered play instead of Shuffle play and choose 37..

[shaheen]

wow, sounds like your cellphone purchases all over again! :rolleyes:
i am an audiophile. and i actually hav 4 mp3 players now, but with phones i change monthly, so i only own 1 at a time.

[marwan]

i am an audiophile. and i actually hav 4 mp3 players now, but with phones i change monthly, so i only own 1 at a time.

child, you sound lost!

[shaheen]

thats the best come bak you could come up with after i shut you down? typical....

[marwan]

eer, well hate to break this to you but many of this extra things are already interated into most mp3 players and everyone will agree ipod accessories are hella expensive so who cares?
not everyone can change often.
the fact that you have to use software AT ALL to transfer music is ridiculous, it should just be drag and drop into it like Irivier and Creative mp3 players.
and so it does. LIKE A CAMEL! ive had nothing but problems with it and same goes with alot of my friends and forumers ive known.
well then in that case swithc th Ordered play instead of Shuffle play and choose 37..


who cares? the people that can afford them!


stop being silly shaheen, if the stupid shuffle crap had a tiny display it would have solved the problem and more people would buy the darn thing. a tiny resolution display wont cost apple anything.

the shuffle sounds like a nightmare to navigate....i cant even imagine the 1GB full of tracks!

[marwan]

oh i forgot, it doesnt change the fact that the iPod is the best selling mp3 player in the world. so really you're comments are useless.

[shaheen]

More People Would Buy The Darn Hting??? Have You Seen The Backorders In America???

4 Weeks Wait Thank You Very Much.

[shaheen]

oh i forgot, it doesnt change the fact that the iPod is the best selling mp3 player in the world. so really you're comments are useless.
thats due to marketing, nothing else you simple minded people would appreciate in other cheaper mp3 players.

[marwan]

More People Would Buy The Darn Hting??? Have You Seen The Backorders In America???

4 Weeks Wait Thank You Very Much.



yah but wouldnt you much rather have a small display displaying names/album name/time/battery info?

[shaheen]

if there was a 512mb mp3 player with a screen for 150AUS i wouldve bought it for sure but the shuffle is the first locally so yes.

[YJT]

BOTH the ipod and ishuffle sell well due to marketing, both are good products for the market that they are intended for.

Ipod is really intended for those who use it as a hardrive as much as an MP3 player, when the first gen ipods were out all the lecturers and research staff at the dental school i'm at and my bro's med school had them, way b4 the 4th gen which everyone now has. it was used to back up entire books that ppl were writing, research material, entire phd thesus and so forth.. however approaching gen 3 it really boomed out as a mp3 player where people who wanted to make a fashion statement and those who wanted a really powerful mp3 player that could store @#T@loads of songs and were frustrated with dealing with numbers like 32mb, 64mb, 128mb, 256mb etc.. at the same time mac computers were gaining traction and a few years later mac is at a position where the next step is to target a wider population and entice them with real portable products that were most importantly cheap yet functionally sound such as the imac mini which is intended for pc user who want to move into mac and ipod shuffle for those who just think that ipods are too big and expensive. so the ipod shuffle is great for those like shaheen. so its wrong to say that the ipod or ipod shuffle is crap. anything ipod represents excellent design and functionality. i suspect part of the reason why itunes appears to have problems is because the users are using a pc.. i haven't had any major problems using itunes on my pc, only minor minor ones.. but lately after getting a G4 powerbook the ipod works with it absolutely FLawlessly.

[shaheen]

yea. itunes works perfectly on my computer now but ive had to uninstall sp2 cause it conflicted with my msn so when i did that now itunes is problematic again

[YJT]

thats interesting.. i never bothered with sp2 myself.. well i guess this whole itunes thing has given you an even worse impression of mac? :S

[shaheen]

lol. right you are.

[commedecargons]

**** on u shaheen.... :D........ Windows the bull**** software........ SP2~~~ sucked like hell.......... asking me to block my Canon Printer's Driver? is Microsoft so stupid to ignore one of the largest printer manufacturer;s software??? idiotic!!! :confused:
And the laptop i just bought comes with SP2 in the recovery disks... i couldn't use SP1 right? sucks!!!

*i bought this laptop is all because i had to use Visual Basic.Net to construct my final project's system..... if not!? i would've been happy using Macintosh now. Well, at least i bought a Sony Vaio since i'm a fan.... :D

[shaheen]

i ahte windows to, i wana go linux but im a linux newbie.

[phoney]

just got the latest quick-time player and itunes comes with it looks like jobs is doing a gates thing.

[Daedalus]

I hate iPods, always have and always will.

Mainly because you can't use them as USB hard drives (whats the point of having a 40GB mobile hard drive that can ONLY store i-Tunes 'approved' music and nothing else?)
Plus their hidiously overpriced for what they are.

In the UK, I got myself a Creative MuVo2 4GB (all I really need) for less than £130. The iPod Mini (also 4GB, but physically larger...) is STILL to this day £179.99. AND it can't be used as a USB HDD, which is the other main reason I use my MuVo, I transfer a lot of large-ish files (like 1GB) to and from college most days, and if I had an iPod I could'nt do any of that. I really could'nt find a single advantage by having an iPod Mini than my MuVo, maybe except the screen but I don't even notice it anymore!

[marwan]

I hate iPods, always have and always will.

Mainly because you can't use them as USB hard drives (whats the point of having a 40GB mobile hard drive that can ONLY store i-Tunes 'approved' music and nothing else?)
Plus their hidiously overpriced for what they are.

In the UK, I got myself a Creative MuVo2 4GB (all I really need) for less than £130. The iPod Mini (also 4GB, but physically larger...) is STILL to this day £179.99. AND it can't be used as a USB HDD, which is the other main reason I use my MuVo, I transfer a lot of large-ish files (like 1GB) to and from college most days, and if I had an iPod I could'nt do any of that. I really could'nt find a single advantage by having an iPod Mini than my MuVo, maybe except the screen but I don't even notice it anymore!


you are one miss-informed puppy, the iPod can be used as a USB hard drive by pluging it to the USB port using the USB cable provided.

[Daedalus]

A Windows compatible USB Hard Drive? With NO additional drivers required what so ever? Or additional software either.

In other words, can you just plug it in, see it pop up as a removable drive in 'My Computer' and drag and drop files to it?

[shaheen]

yes. you can use it as an external HD. only to transfer music it is compulsory to use itunes.

[marwan]

A Windows compatible USB Hard Drive? With NO additional drivers required what so ever? Or additional software either.

In other words, can you just plug it in, see it pop up as a removable drive in 'My Computer' and drag and drop files to it?


yes you use it to drag and drop programs/files. plug it using the USB, go to my computer, and it will appear as a removable hard drive. you dump anything you want on it, i just tried it to double double double check for you! :)


iTunes is only used to transfer MP3s/AAC/WAV files to the iPod so u can listen to them on the iPod.

you can also drag and drop them to the iPod when using it as a removable drive, however you wont be able to listen to them that way.

back to your main question, yes the ipod can be used as an external removable drive to store files.

[commedecargons]

same with shuffle right? just that it ain't a "Drive" ..... i do think flash base media storage were less prominent to damage right?

[stars]

same with shuffle right? just that it ain't a "Drive" ..... i do think flash base media storage were less prominent to damage right?


ja ... flash based storage media are suspectible to drops , high voltage short circuit and crushing ( really)

but my muvo is damned tough .. suffered alot under my hands but is still working fine

one thing bad about USB flash drives is tt ... well ... they tend to break easily ... my muvo's USB connector was plugged into my Com once .. and i was happily rolling about on a swivel chair .., wad i din notice was my chair smashed into the USB flash drive hanging out there and the USB connector thng was ripped off from the flash drive

but ! luckily ... i stay in SG and creative gave me a brand new one when my dad helped me take it in for servicing

[commedecargons]

i thought i read from somewhere stating hard disk based media players were more prone to damage cos of all the moving parts and the sensitive harddisk....... anyway, i still prefer flash based media players..... :D

[shaheen]

yep. any HD mp3 player is more prone to skipping and damage then flash based. but sony came up with a new thing with the HD-1 where it has a sensor so if yuo accidentally drop it it senses its falling and splits the discs in the HD so it doesnt damage itself. damn cool.

[commedecargons]

accelerometer? a IBM notebook had that too! it stops the spinning hard disk when it detects sudden acceleration of the notebook..... droool~~

[shaheen]

the guy at the shop just said it was a sensor, accelerometer sounds cool though!

[stars]

accelerometer? a IBM notebook had that too! it stops the spinning hard disk when it detects sudden acceleration of the notebook..... droool~~

i saw tt ad !! it claims to retract the magnetic writing needle and prevents the needle from damaging the disc.

[shaheen]

yea. with the sony HD-1 it splits the discs

[commedecargons]

splits the disk?? hard to imagine, but with 30 hours of playing time, i'd take that over IPOD anytime... maybe its cos i'ma fan of sony... but ipod looked the best IMO

[gomez]

Wow I didn't know that. Accelerometer is really cool...

[tedwardo]

how does it manage to split a disk? like break it or something?

[shaheen]

i duno, thats what the guy said, he said there are 2 discs inside that make up the HD and when its falling it splits the two so it doesnt damage each other..

[marwan]

In the near future iPOD may create an iPOD phone. Here is the article from engadget.com I have included the picture its at the bottom. :)

"Not that we ever think Apple is going to do a cellphone—it’s hard to imagine Steve Jobs wanting to deal with the messy (and incredibly messed up) world of wireless carriers and handset manufacturers—but Isamu Sanada (who specializes in Apple-related concept designs) has rolled out his vision for the hiPod Phone, which basically looks like an iPod mini with a color screen and a dial pad attachment."


how iron, that pic of the moto+ipod mystickid posted looks like the SE K600! lol

[rowanmacs]

In the near future iPOD may create an iPOD phone. Here is the article from engadget.com I have included the picture its at the bottom. :)

" . . . it’s hard to imagine Steve Jobs wanting to deal with the messy (and incredibly messed up) world of wireless carriers . . . "

That’s not going to worry Apple one bit. They’ll just create their own phone and network and shut the rest of the world out.:p

As for Motorola, I hope not, not after the G4 debacle. :eek:

[DEViANT]

accelerometer? a IBM notebook had that too! it stops the spinning hard disk when it detects sudden acceleration of the notebook..... droool~~

I had this in my IBM T41p workstation. It could detect movement in the Z-axis as well as pitching and yawing so you could call up a window which showed you the exact orientation of the laptop in relation to the ground. Kind of cool. It didn't actually stop the disk it just rapidly parked the heads and stopped reading/writing data, so the heads wouldn't physically crash into the disk surface. It's all very well on a laptop where mass storage is important but I will never want a mechanical hard disk in a phone no matter how advanced it is.

The theory is good but when I was using the laptop on the train for example, on earlier firmware of the sensor it would stall videos and music. Newer versions let you turn down sensitivity but still, I suppose it's better than nothing.

[manav]

Thats really interesting, because we all see ads which show the notebook having a steel rollcage around it and also the blue buttons. But I don't think all these solutions would appeal to us power users. Just gimmics. But if anyone has actually dropped their laptop and it did survive because of this do let us know.