Confirmed: 6260 has STEREO FM but MONO MP3!

[Ahmad007]

The 6260 is confirmed to play STEREO FM .. but very sadly MONO MP3 quality. :(

[im92109210]

yea i just tested those two files right now and as ahmad said the fm is stereo but mp3 is mono but common people still , look at the half filled part of the glass :P it still sounds great !!

[anuj]

well if it is mono mp3 and has stereo fm surely a firmwire upgrade or a third party software could play mp3s thru the stereo...

[kristof.vanriet]

You are right anuj.

It's possible to play mp3 in stereo, but RealPlayer (which is the standard mp3 player on the 6260) can't play in stereo, only mono...

[son23kat]

it doesn't matter. i'm still getting it.

[francisofarabia]

You are right anuj.

It's possible to play mp3 in stereo, but RealPlayer (which is the standard mp3 player on the 6260) can't play in stereo, only mono...
but, which application can be used???

[Ahmad007]

You are right anuj.

It's possible to play mp3 in stereo, but RealPlayer (which is the standard mp3 player on the 6260) can't play in stereo, only mono...

I used MP3Player v3.00 it plays the song on 44 khz but still the sound is MONO not stereo. :(

I hope that it's true about getting a firm update to get stereo sound.

[Domas]

The 6260 is confirmed to play STEREO FM .. but very sadly MONO MP3 quality. :(

Thats true i can confirm it either. i read it on an Advertising paper produced by the Nokia itself. they said Stereo fm, Mono mp3.

i learned 2 new things:
1-Pop port doen't automatically means that it supports Stereo.
2-Supporting Stereo headphones doesn't automatically means that it supports Stereo mp3 player.

for now i guess i'm so confused :confused: . this could mean that Series 60 phones doesn't have any phones supporting the stereo mp3 player. And i really doubt now About the series 40. may be the (6230,7600....doesnt support the Stereo mp3 player, Although they may support the Stereo fm only could any moderator or professional here Explains whats goin on...?!! :confused:

[pacman]

same here, im really confused wid stereo fm and mono mp3, so what is teh external speaker mono or stereo? or the using the headphones will make it stereo? i am definitely confused. it would have been perfect for me if it was all stereo

[kristof.vanriet]

No, but the 6260 has got a mp3 capable soundchip (according Nokia) and this means stereo mp3...

And the biggest problem is that there is no stereo mp3 software available for the 6260 at this moment... :( So it's difficult to test

[DEViANT]

Thats true i can confirm it either. i read it on an Advertising paper produced by the Nokia itself. they said Stereo fm, Mono mp3.

i learned 2 new things:
1-Pop port doen't automatically means that it supports Stereo.
2-Supporting Stereo headphones doesn't automatically means that it supports Stereo mp3 player.

for now i guess i'm so confused :confused: . this could mean that Series 60 phones doesn't have any phones supporting the stereo mp3 player. And i really doubt now About the series 40. may be the (6230,7600....doesnt support the Stereo mp3 player, Although they may support the Stereo fm only could any moderator or professional here Explains whats goin on...?!! :confused:

Nokia have one series 60 with stereo MP3 (and hardware decoder) - ironically, it's the cheapest model, the controversial N-Gage!

We knew Pop-port didn't automatically mean stereo when the 7610 came out (disappointment of a phone).

On a separate note, I think the OGG-format players can play sound in stereo, because they do on the N-Gage and bypass the hardware decoder (because there is no hardware OGG support), thereby decoding in software. I also read somewhere (I think on these forums) that the latest RealPlayer does support stereo MP3 playback. As I don't have the phone, nor have I seen one, I can't tell anything yet for sure though.

[zalameh1]

may be the (6230,7600....doesnt support the Stereo mp3 player, Although they may support the Stereo fm only could any moderator or professional here Explains whats goin on...?!! :confused:

no, the 6230 and 7600 do have stereo mp3 playback..

[smilewarrior]

originally posted by kristof.vanriet
No, but the 6260 has got a mp3 capable soundchip (according Nokia) and this means stereo mp3...

Dude, a lot of people are hoping the statement above (that the 6260 is capable of stereo mp3) is true despite what others may claim.

If the 6260 did have mono mp3, then it's a flip 6600 with a radio (which happens to be stereo) that can view word and powerpoint documents. I've met people who wished that their 6600 had a radio so I guess they'd gravitate to this phone. What do you think?

[DEViANT]

Dude, a lot of people are hoping the statement above (that the 6260 is capable of stereo mp3) is true despite what others may claim.

If the 6260 did have mono mp3, then it's a flip 6600 with a radio (which happens to be stereo) that can view word and powerpoint documents. I've met people who wished that their 6600 had a radio so I guess they'd gravitate to this phone. What do you think?

Well, the 6600 can only sample at 16kHz, but it seems that the 6260 can sample at 44.1kHz, which is a huge step up in terms of music quality. Even if it was mono, this would be half-acceptable to many (myself included).

[francisofarabia]

this could mean that Series 60 phones doesn't have any phones supporting the stereo mp3 player.
Totally wrong, as already mentioned, n-gage is stereo and so is the 6620, the NA 6600 version and the other Series 60 that has stereo is SX1, albeit from siemens...

[DEViANT]

Totally wrong, as already mentioned, n-gage is stereo and so is the 6620, the NA 6600 version and the other Series 60 that has stereo is SX1, albeit from siemens...

You can add the Sendo X as well in that case :)

[Ahmad007]

No, but the 6260 has got a mp3 capable soundchip (according Nokia) and this means stereo mp3...

And the biggest problem is that there is no stereo mp3 software available for the 6260 at this moment... :( So it's difficult to test

I wish if it's true, although it's hopeless to think about it :( But welling to wait and see what happens. :(

[deep3lue]

Hi guys, I have a really ridiculous idea for people who owns an iPod and wants to listen to stereo music on the Nokia 6260...

Go get Griffin's iTrip, Remote Remote (a remote control for the iPod) and a portable battery charger. Play your music through iTrip, and use Remote Remote to choose your songs and at the same time, charge your iPod with the battery charger. Tune your radio on your Nokia 6260 to the frequency playing on your iTrip and viola! Stereo music on your 6260! Ha.. Yah, expensive solution, but well, it's the next nearest thing to Bluetooth music! Ke ke :D

[Domas]

Totally wrong, as already mentioned, n-gage is stereo and so is the 6620, the NA 6600 version and the other Series 60 that has stereo is SX1, albeit from siemens...

thanx. thats really usefull. but there are the (7650,3650,3660,6600,7610,6260,6670.....) all these phones are series 60. and i dont think they support the stereo mp3 player. you are talking about 2 phones from a total 9 phones (excluding the 6620 as it is limited for NA region). Nokia has only the N-gage. that means 1 out of 8 (12.5%). pretty low man. A phone supporting the Mp3 player should have a Stereo i think. i'm not against Nokia man. i'm using one myself. An old one but i'm still lovin' it. but Really i'm some confused with this stuff... :confused:

[DEViANT]

Well, you still said no Series 60 phones supported stereo MP3 and that was wrong, so that's what francisofarabia was getting at. Besides, only the 7610, N-Gage (original) and 6260 claim support for MP3 - the rest of the Series 60 phones don't have out-of-the-box support for it. It would appear only the 7610 lacks hardware stereo support (and there have been talks of hacking it for stereo), it also doesn't state MP3 player - it just says it can play back MP3 via Realplayer, wheres the 6260 and N-Gage are listed as having 'MP3 players'.

[phones4u]

i got my 6260 today and what a pile of poo its is.!!! Its a great looking device but the keys are shoddy they move very easily the camera is rubbish, the screen is small enough then they make the view finder even smaller. The mp3 sound very quiet as ringtones and the screen is very pixelated. Maybe a great handset at the same time of release as the 6600 but when we have the like of the 6630, 6670, and 7610 it really is bad handset from nokia. As i hardly pay for my phones i may keep it, but very disapointed i will post pics taken off my s700 and i will also do a small review just so you know exactly what u can expect. Ive heard various random reviews where we have been told it has hotswap rsmmc but it hasnt. I will elaborate more tomorrow.

Paul


Ps is anyoen else mssing cdovers witty comments and do you know when he's back?

[DEViANT]

i got my 6260 today and what a pile of poo its is.!!! Its a great looking device but the keys are shoddy they move very easily the camera is rubbish, the screen is small enough then they make the view finder even smaller. The mp3 sound very quiet as ringtones and the screen is very pixelated. Maybe a great handset at the same time of release as the 6600 but when we have the like of the 6630, 6670, and 7610 it really is bad handset from nokia. As i hardly pay for my phones i may keep it, but very disapointed i will post pics taken off my s700 and i will also do a small review just so you know exactly what u can expect. Ive heard various random reviews where we have been told it has hotswap rsmmc but it hasnt. I will elaborate more tomorrow.

Paul


Ps is anyoen else mssing cdovers witty comments and do you know when he's back?

Well, I look forward to your review because no-one else seems to have one up yet and I do want to get this phone. As far as I'm aware, the screen size is the same as all the other Symbian platform phones? When you say the keys move, do you mean the ones on the upper display, i.e. you have to hold it in place to keep it from spinning round? Is the central rotary hinge nice and tight?

To be honest, phone technology just isn't moving forward fast enough at the moment to warrant me getting anything really new; the N-Gage was and still is the most powerful multimedia Symbian phone (a bit sad considering it's one of the oldest and also cheapest) and the 6230 is the most powerful multimedia Series 40 phone and that's getting pretty old too now - seems lots of manufacturers have their chances to make things right and make the ultimate phone which all the phone people would buy (a market share winner), but they keep missing it with no good reason? Where's the Sendo X, where's the Samsung D710, where's the functional 6260...

[shaheen]

ok this is by far the stupidest thing nokia have ever done. its stereo capable but no software for it???? wtf?!. i mean if blind nokia were to just put the software in themselves they could sell this phone as a stereo mp3 playable phone as well! probably jack up the price a bit and get more profit. cause im pretty sure alot of people would be more interested in it if it was advertised as an mp3 phone rather then a clamshell 6600 that may or may not play mp3s in stereo depending on availability of software. what is wrong with nokia!?....then again, why ask..

[Domas]

Well, you still said no Series 60 phones supported stereo MP3 and that was wrong, so that's what francisofarabia was getting at. Besides, only the 7610, N-Gage (original) and 6260 claim support for MP3 - the rest of the Series 60 phones don't have out-of-the-box support for it. It would appear only the 7610 lacks hardware stereo support (and there have been talks of hacking it for stereo), it also doesn't state MP3 player - it just says it can play back MP3 via Realplayer, wheres the 6260 and N-Gage are listed as having 'MP3 players'.

thanx. alot for you valuable info. :cool: but i dont find myself that wrong or fool. whats the difference when they say it supports mp3 and it has a mp3 player?! to me there is no diff. i expect at both cases a Stereo support. how do i notice that it is mono while they are saying the realplayer supports mp3.
they should have clarified it more. they should have said: stereo fm radio, mono mp3. instead of (realplayer supports mp3).

[DEViANT]

Well, I didn't say you were an idiot, but there is a distinct difference between MP3 playback and MP3 player, in that an MP3 player can sequentially load tracks but MP3 playback may only suggest one track at a time, which is obviously crap for listening to music. Supporting MP3 is one thing... Motorola's V500/V600 supports MP3, but its just for ringtones and there is no MP3 player.

[Domas]

Well, I didn't say you were an idiot, but there is a distinct difference between MP3 playback and MP3 player, in that an MP3 player can sequentially load tracks but MP3 playback may only suggest one track at a time, which is obviously crap for listening to music. Supporting MP3 is one thing... Motorola's V500/V600 supports MP3, but its just for ringtones and there is no MP3 player.

thanx. alot for clarifying......... ;)

[Sid]

Geez, Nokia is really about as pathetic as it gets.

[fabarati]

Geez, Nokia is really about as pathetic as it gets.
here, here

[Domas]

Geez, Nokia is really about as pathetic as it gets.

thanx. for your thoughts... ;)

[artekk]

Hello

The answer on that question:

The 6260, just like e.g. the N-Gage, has two different DAC chips. One of them is dedicated to the Symbian OS (the mono one) and the other one is dedicated to the intregated FM Radio/MP3 player (the stereo one).

From Symbian OS it's only possible to access the mono DAC through the audio API for audio playback.

All FM Radio/MP3 playing is done by the dedicated chip which you cannot access from the Symbian audio API unless you are able to get your hands on the specific DAC's hardware specs and write a Symbian device driver.

Thats from a Pro of a Symbian OS Forum. Can somebody help me to understand it?

greets

artekk

[artekk]

Here is some clearer information about that :

Oke, I'll try to explain better (clearer, I hope)

There are two audio chips inside your 6260. One audio chip is used by Symbian OS, like on all other Symbian OS devices that support audio, and is only capable of playing back 16bit mono digital audio (16Khz? I'm not sure).

The other audio chip inside your 6260 is a FM radio receiver/processing chip. The only thing this chip can do is receive FM radio frequencies en process them so you can listen to the radio.

Since the FM radio chip doesn't need your phones CPU to playback audio (It does all the stuff by it's self, meaning it is dedicated), this chip can use 44Khz stereo playback.

You can't use the FM radio chip to playback an audio stream generated by Symbian OS. The chip doesn't know how to process this information. So Symbian OS needs another chip to playback digital audio (the first chip I talked about).

I hope this make things a bit clearer...

greetz

[DEViANT]

That's what I suspected before but couldn't prove. That would also make the 7610 and 6260 support mono 16kHz playback then. Unless of course the faster CPUs in the 7610 and 6260 can sample audio at better rates (seems to be pretty good) - I think they have 129Mhz ones compared to the 104Mhz in older Symbian phones.

What totally bewilders me is that the only true CD-grade MP3 player to exist on a Nokia Symbian phone was the N-Gage. It just seems that Nokia make a good phone, but leave out one vital thing? Do you really think this is in line with their apparent plan to avoid the perfect phone so people keep changing?

[smilewarrior]

originally posted by DEVIANT: Do you really think this is in line with their apparent plan to avoid the perfect phone so people keep changing?

Absolutely. They will never make a perfect phone so as to keep their profit margins running high.

[francisofarabia]

so, thats basically it 6260 is 7610 on a clamshell housing with added FM stereo chip, and the mega pix cam removed and replaced by VGA CMOS... then, it should be priced just above the 6600, say plus $5 for the FM chip... ugh!... 6630 is my only hope...

[DEViANT]

Absolutely. They will never make a perfect phone so as to keep their profit margins running high.

Or until Sony Ericsson, Siemens and Motorola latch on and cut Nokia's profits putting them right out of the picture...