View Full Version : I played with a 6260 today - pics
Got to have a go of a 6260 earlier on today - must say I was really surprised of the size. It's much bigger than I expected, it really is quite massive.
Only spent about 10 mins playing with the phone but managed to try the camera out, don't have the photos I took with it though. The quality wasn't that bad but the digital zoom was terrible. As far as I could tell it only goes up one step (like the 6600 did) and it becomes very pixelated, even on the preview.
The UI seemed nice and fast, it was probably down to the theme that was applied but it had a very nice look to it.
The phone feels quite cheap and plasticy and it was very annoying navigating the phone using the menu buttons underneath the screen.
Am in a bit of a rush at the moment but if anyone has any questions let me know. Also got to play with a SE Z1010 which I will post in the SE forum
oh yeah - also saw the 7260 too but didnt ask to have a go. It was smaller than I expected, it's about the same as the 5100, very pretty
DEViANT
10-13-2004, 10:12 AM
Yeah, with all the wasted space in the lower half Nokia could afford to fit the bottom half with the two softkeys, the C key and the pen key and still put them on the upper screen as well for use when in browsing mode. Ah well, I'm sure it will still be a decent enough phone. If you get the new on the music playback quality I'd appreciate it too - I'm pretty sure it's the same as the N-Gage and 6230.
smilewarrior
10-13-2004, 11:53 AM
@twatrash:
Was the black 6260 also on display? Really, keypads annoying to use (is my understanding of your previous post correct)? How sad.
@twatrash:
Was the black 6260 also on display? Really, keypads annoying to use (is my understanding of your previous post correct)? How sad.
There was only actually one there. I asked about the black one and was told they had only been given 10 silver ones which sold out straight away (£350 a pop!) - I'm considering buying this phone so will wait until CPW have it, the black one, for £280.
The actual numerical keypad was fine to use, it's just not convenient in normal browse mode to reach up to use the menu and scroll buttons. I had to use 2 hands for that and when I was navigating around the menus I also had to use 2 hands (one to hold bottom of phone and other to use the scroll.) I suppose I could just flip the screen and close it so it's facing outwards but this would be annoying if it meant I had to flip it back again if I wanted to use the numerical keys. Also the 4 way scroll isn't that obvious (the square around the little silver button in the middle) - it just looks ornamental, doesnt actually look like a button.
Didn't really like the silver version, it looks quite cheap and nasty and like I said it's very big. I'm still undecided whether I will replace my 7610 for one of these but I'm one of those impulsive people who wants something straight away and I don't want to wait for the 6630 so maybe I'll just get both (when the 6630 comes out). Can never have too many phones that's what I've always said :)
smilewarrior
10-13-2004, 11:35 PM
^^
If I had the money, I'd also buy all the phones I want to my hearts content. If I had the money, I'd probably collect mobile phones. At the moment, I just get to tinker with my sibling's phones and have to be content with that.
Ruler_70
10-14-2004, 01:44 AM
Sheesh the 6260 closed looks as big as my 6600.
Twatrash: Is it really as big as a 6600 closed?
difenbaker
10-14-2004, 02:26 AM
mmm.... yup, it seems to be a bit big for a clamshell.
nk_au
10-14-2004, 06:17 AM
I must congratulate Nokia on producing such a nicely designed 6260.
But as usual, there are a few more things that we wish for. But Flip, Symbian and Stereo. Guess we're all happy for the moment, hey? :D
Ruler_70
10-14-2004, 06:57 AM
Yeah its a good thing its stereo, it seems nokia finnaly learnt their lesson.
Sheesh the 6260 closed looks as big as my 6600.
Twatrash: Is it really as big as a 6600 closed?
i suppose yes, it was probably the same size as the z1010 closed. i'm going to go back tomorrow for another look and i'll take some pics of it next to my 7610 for a comparison - thats if they still have it (was the last one)
shaheen
10-14-2004, 05:50 PM
how many times does someone have to post this? its NOT stereo. not anywhere close to it, nada, no. its not stereo enabled or just needs a program to make it stereo enabled. Its as stereo deprived as the 7610. In other words youre just using a flip 6600.
how do you know ?
will find out tomorrow as im going to try out an mp3 on it when i go back....
DEViANT
10-14-2004, 06:02 PM
how many times does someone have to post this? its NOT stereo. not anywhere close to it, nada, no. its not stereo enabled or just needs a program to make it stereo enabled. Its as stereo deprived as the 7610. In other words youre just using a flip 6600.
So you're telling me that the only difference between this and the 7610 in reality is that it *supports* stereo headsets? Ignoring the radio and IR port. If the MP3 player samples at 44.1kHz (something the 6600 didn't do) - it will sound ok anyway.
Have you actually played with the phone? I haven't, and whilst I won't rule it out being mono, I'm hoping it won't be. There are 2 stereo headsets listed on the Nokia website (something which isn't listed on the 7610 - HDS-3 and HS-3 are the listed ones).
This guy also seems pretty sure of himself:
http://www.mobile-review.com/forum2/showthread.php?t=14384
Try Googling the keywords '6260 stereo' for some interesting results. That said, the Nokia 6260 user guide doesn't mention the word stereo in it once...
DEViANT
10-14-2004, 06:09 PM
A quote from kristof.vanriet (who writes here occasionally) and from the mobile.review forums (hardly a trusted site, but hopefully the forums are better):
***
After one month, i've recieved a mail back from Nokia about the subject wheter the Nokia 6260 is stereo or mono:
Sended by me;
"I have a question about a phone I wanna to buy in the near future:
does the Nokia 6260 has got stereo mp3 output or not?
On the site states that the FM-radio is stereo, but I can't find any information wheter this is for mp3 to or not?"
And this is the mail they send me back:
"Dear Mister Van Riet,
Thank you for contacting the Club Nokia Careline.
In response to your e-mail, we would like to confirm you that the 6260 a
Stereo pop-port has. So the FM radio and the MP3's has both a stereo ouput.
Please don't hesitate to contact us again if you have any further questions.
Yours sincerely
Nokia Service Professional
Dutch Team
Club Nokia Careline
070/70.77.70"
They were not really (how to say it) responding my question, but mayby my question wasn't so direct enough...
***
Since I'm losing my patience now with this phone thing, I wish someone would clarify it once and for all. If it does have stereo and the software doesn't support it, it was downright stupid for Nokia not to include it. It won't make a decent MP3 player unless it can reproduce sound at 44.1kHz 16-bit in stereo. As a comparison the 6600 would decode these 44.1kHz MP3s but only at 16kHz 16-bit and in mono. I doubt I'll see the phone for a while, but when I do I will go and get a hold of one and test it then post my results for everyone to see. Basically whether I get it hinges on this - I don't use the MP3 that much since I got my iPod, but I'm definitely not going backwards in phone technology.
DEViANT
10-14-2004, 06:15 PM
how do you know ?
will find out tomorrow as im going to try out an mp3 on it when i go back....
Get an MP3 which is clearly in stereo, i.e. the sound swings left to right. I have this file which is the closing seconds of a song by Pitchshifter - Please Sir, and the sound clearly moves left and right. If you analyse the sound in a wave editor, you'll see what I mean, when sound comes from the left, there is a gap where the right channel is silent. If you can differentiate this on a 6260 with a stereo headset, then all is cool. If it sounds like it's all coming from the centre and that drumming bit doesn't switch channels then it's mono and I'm gonna cry...
Although it's quite the opposite of my tastes I'll try it out tomorrow just for you :-)
I'm still not sure whether I really want this phone or not as I see it as a downgrade from my 7610. The only things that are putting me off are the size, vga camera, lack of outer lcd and this whole stereo thing
DEViANT
10-14-2004, 06:36 PM
Although it's quite the opposite of my tastes I'll try it out tomorrow just for you :-)
I'm still not sure whether I really want this phone or not as I see it as a downgrade from my 7610. The only things that are putting me off are the size, vga camera, lack of outer lcd and this whole stereo thing
I don't really consider it a downgrade from the 7610. The 7610 was a bit of a waste of time, the only thing it really offered was a megapixel camera, and if you really want quality you should be looking at a proper digital camera, you also lost the ability to run normal MMCs with it and the IR port, and there was still no stereo support... the 6260 is a breath of fresh air, for a start, it's the first clamshell Symbian phone, and that has to say something about it.
I'm just surprised that Nokia seem to be sticking to this format that 6xxx are strictly business; if that is the case, then why the hell does the 6230 have stereo output and FM radio? And why does the fashion-orientated 7610 not have it? Make your damn minds up Nokia!
Ruler_70
10-15-2004, 01:20 AM
Well if the 6260 can sample radio in stereo it wont have a prob doing it with the mp3. Even if real one player doesnt support it, there are other players that support higher streaming rates.
DEViANT
10-15-2004, 04:23 AM
The sad fact is, that the best multimedia Symbian phone released to date so far was the original N-Gage! That had hardware stereo CD-quality (44.1kHz) MP3 support and stereo FM radio all straight from the box!
Ruler_70
10-15-2004, 04:58 AM
Yup the Ngage is definitely the best multimedia phone nokia has released, and right after it (music wise) is the 6230.
Tried that sample before and it played fine and I also played another mp3. It didn't sound as clear as my moto a925 but I'm 90% sure it was stereo output as it sounded different/better than my 7610
Ruler_70
10-15-2004, 09:14 AM
The 6260 DOES have stereo output!!!!
Plus even if real player doesnt support it, the latest version of MP3 Player (v3) has just been released and it provides support for Stereo output and streaming at 44.1KHz.
im92109210
10-15-2004, 09:37 AM
hey guys also the nokia 9500 is going to support 44khz... how many khz does the 6230 support ?
Ruler_70
10-15-2004, 09:44 AM
The 6230 also support 44.1KHz.
smilewarrior
10-15-2004, 11:28 AM
^^
Then it's a good phone for music enthusiasts.
nk_au
10-16-2004, 04:37 AM
Hmm ... let's hope the next Nokia phone is:
Flip, Symbian S60 V2, Stereo MP3, FM Radio, Megapixel and 10min vid rec minimum
LOL XD
son23kat
10-16-2004, 10:36 AM
Hmm ... let's hope the next Nokia phone is:
Flip, Symbian S60 V2, Stereo MP3, FM Radio, Megapixel and 10min vid rec minimum
LOL XD
dont't forget the good keypads....
shaheen
10-16-2004, 11:27 AM
The 6260 DOES have stereo output!!!!
Plus even if real player doesnt support it, the latest version of MP3 Player (v3) has just been released and it provides support for Stereo output and streaming at 44.1KHz.
It does not. whatever you do to the 6260 its still mono. dual mono isnt stereo. ive spoken wiht 6260 owners from singapore and it isnt stereo. its like saying, hey i can install a software into 7610 and make it stereo! its impossible and its the saem for 6260.
zalameh1
10-16-2004, 08:52 PM
ive spoken wiht 6260 owners from singapore and it isnt stereo.
6260 is not out in singapore yet...
nk_au
10-16-2004, 10:32 PM
6260 is not out in singapore yet...
Really? Puzzles me ... because there are people on Ebay.com.au who are selling Nokia 6260s (the actual phone, not a link) to Australians ... shipped from Singapore or Hong Kong ...
shaheen
10-16-2004, 11:57 PM
6260 is not out in singapore yet...
Ever heard of dealers? 6260s are already in singapore, just not for sale. i know alot of people who own phone shops selling them.
john74
10-17-2004, 01:48 PM
dont't forget the good keypads....i agree with all the above,i had the 6260 and i traded it for a 7610 ,the 6260 phone is to big and the keypad is not functional.sorry im honest apart from that the design rocks..i need to work my phone with 1 hand not with 2 like the 6260 and i want a decent camera the 6260 is DREADFULL to my opinion worse than the 6600 i can prove it with comparison photos that i have since i have had all 3 latest nokia smartphones(6600/7610/6260)
Angelzvenom
10-24-2004, 11:54 PM
But i have no problem manouvering 6260 with one hand leh???
DEViANT
10-25-2004, 03:15 AM
But i have no problem manouvering 6260 with one hand leh???
I'm surprised that you can do that, if you are walking about how on earth do you switch to the top part of the display without your other hand?
john74, could you post a photo comparison with all the phones people so we could compare qualities.
nk_au
10-25-2004, 03:21 AM
I think I saw a picture on some review ... that the 6260 when closed, is the practically the same size as a 7610 ... *stoned*
Ahmad007
10-25-2004, 05:04 AM
well it's slightly smaller than the 7610.
DEViANT
10-25-2004, 05:21 AM
well it's slightly smaller than the 7610.
Yes, when closed, which is still gigantic for a clamshell. I do like the phone a lot but I haven't handled it yet, and so I can't really personally comment on it's useability but its size does seem to be excessive.
Ruler_70
10-25-2004, 09:22 AM
Yeah, im only gana decide whether or not to buy it after i see it and try it out at a shop.
Angelzvenom
10-25-2004, 07:05 PM
7610
Weight: 118 g
Dimensions: 108.6 mm x 53 mm x 18.7 mm, 93.5 cc
6260 (closed)
Weight: 130 g
Dimensions: 102 x 49 x 23 mm, 109 cc
Not much diff lah?
zalameh1
10-25-2004, 10:28 PM
the whole point of a clamshell is so that u can have a huge screen in a small phone. the 6260 is a clamshell, the size of its screen is the same as the 7610 -- so the difference between its size and the 7610 should be alot more than 6mm..
Ruler_70
10-26-2004, 01:36 AM
And they both run the same OS so its not a hardware issue, i really wonder why nokia made the phone so big!?
shaheen
10-26-2004, 01:59 AM
i just played with one today..nothing, i repeat nothing can justify its size and bulkiness.
Domas
10-26-2004, 05:39 AM
the whole point of a clamshell is so that u can have a huge screen in a small phone. the 6260 is a clamshell, the size of its screen is the same as the 7610 -- so the difference between its size and the 7610 should be alot more than 6mm..
its a matter of the price. the 6260 comes much cheaper than the 7610.
at my region the 7610 cost about 660$ while the 6260 costs about 480$.
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