Nokia 7700

[DAFE]

New moblie phone. Anyone got info on it ?

[Alexandr3]

Only this:

"Nokia aims to reach these objectives with products like the Nokia
7700, the company's first media category device that was introduced
today. The EDGE enabled Nokia 7700 media device offers users a true
mobile Internet and personal media experience via a large 640x320,
65,000 color touch screen optimized for viewing full Internet
content. Additional features include music and video streaming and
playback, an integrated VGA camera, FM radio, multimedia messaging
and email support, as well as a full complement of personal
information management features.

The Nokia 7700 media device will also support the Nokia Streamer SU-6
accessory, the first mobile DVB-H/IP Datacast receiver designed to
demonstrate the mobile phone television experience. The Nokia
Streamer attaches to the Nokia 7700 like a battery pack, and will be
used in a pilot project to showcase the future of digital
broadcasting on mobile devices."

[DAFE]

anyone got a picture ?

It works on Nokia Series 90.

So it was true :-)

[Alexandr3]

I read Series 60.

No pics so far..

[DAFE]

Nokia presenterar den mobila mediaterminalen Nokia 7700
2003-10-28

– Inbyggd kamera, stor pekskärm och speciellt anpassad för mediatjänster och trådlös Internetaccess

Idag presenteras Nokia 7700 som är Nokias första mobila mediaterminal. Nokia 7700 är anpassad för trådlös Internetaccess och gör det möjligt för användaren att ta del av ett flertal olika mediatjänster som nedladdning och uppspelning av musik och video. Med den stora pekskärmen (65 000 färger) och en HTML/xHTML webbläsare kan man enkelt ta del av webbsidor. Nokia 7700 erbjuder även en FM-radio, inbyggd VGA-kamera och multimediameddelanden (MMS) och fungerar i GSM/GPRS/EDGE 900/1800/1900-näten. Leveranserna väntas starta i Europa, Afrika och Asien under andra kvartalet 2004.

– Med Nokia 7700 får användarna en helt ny mediaupplevelse. Mediaterminalens stora färgskärm och det breda utbudet av anslutningsmöjligheter gör den till en oslagbar följeslagare för människor som vill ha tillgång till både underhållande mediatjänster och nödvändiga nyttotjänster, säger Johan Eidhagen, marknadschef Nokia Mobile Phones i Skandinavien. Användare kan också skapa sitt eget multimediainnehåll och dela med sig av detta till sina vänner.

Med Nokia 7700 kan man både ta del av och skapa eget mediainnehåll med hjälp av den senaste tekniken. Den stora pekskärmen (640 x 320 pixlar) gör det både enkelt och underhållande att ta del av Internetbaserade tjänster, titta på videoklipp (streaming) eller de foton man tagit med den inbyggda VGA-kameran. Med hjälp av skärmens digitala tangentbord eller genom att skriva in texten med en penna direkt på skärmen kan man enkelt hantera telefonboken, uppdatera kalendern eller skriva meddelanden. Användare kan göra sin Nokia 7700 mer personlig genom ett brett utbud av bakgrundsbilder och ringsignaler.

Nokia 7700 har ett inbyggt minne (64 MB) och plats för ytterligare minneskort så att man kan spara en mängd olika filer och innehåll såsom musik och videoklipp. Man kan också enkelt synkronisera mediaterminalen med en kompatibel dator med hjälp av mjukvaran Nokia PC Suite. Eftersom Nokia 7700 även erbjuder Bluetooth för trådlös anslutning kan man använda något av Nokias trådlösa headset.

Mediaterminalen är baserad på gränssnittet Nokia Series 90 och använder operativsystemet Symbian OS vilket innebär att man kan få ut maximalt av olika typer av mediainnehåll. Utvecklarplattformen för Series 90 finns tillgänglig på www.forum.nokia.com och gör det möjligt för utvecklare att skapa egna tjänster till Nokia 7700.

Nokia 7700 erbjuder också en unik plattform för att visa upp de senaste mobila mediatjänsterna, till exempel Visual Radio. Visual Radio gör det möjligt att lyssna på radio samtidigt som man tar del av visuella tjänster som till exempel bilder och text, men även tjänster med interaktiva inslag. Med Movie Channel kan användare även titta på filmtrailers (streaming) från flera av de stora filmbolagen.

Nokia 7700 stödjer också det nya tillbehöret, Nokia Streamer SU-6, som är den första mobila IP Datacast-mottagaren framtagen för att demonstrera den mobila tv-upplevelsen med hjälp av DVB-H-standarden. Nokia Streamer kan kopplas till Nokia 7700 och kommer att användas i pilotprojekt för att visa framtidens digitala sändningar via mobila enheter.

[n1ghtFLY]

it's series 90

[AL9999]

Originally posted by Alexandr3
via a large 640x320,
65,000 color touch screen

Whoa back up a second. A 640x320 pixel screen???

That means a horizontal rectangular screen at 2:1 aspect ratio. And unless the screen is about 10 inches big, the pixels are gonna have to be super small to fit in a PDA/phone device. They didn't mean 240x320 did they???

[Sid]

A press picture has just been released. Looks pretty damn wierd to me...

[DAFE]

Do you have a link to the press picture ??

[n1ghtFLY]

http://nds2.photos.nokia.com/press/photo/phones/jpeg/7700_lowres.jpg

[Verbal_Kint]

So will all Nokia's feature N-Gaged calling (the weird way)?

Marnix

[DAFE]

Do you have a link to the press picture ??

[RobP]

Say hello to the new communicator. More info from the Nokia Press Release (http://press.nokia.com/PR/200310/922404_5.html).

Sounds very interesting...

Edit: Maybe a touch early in saying it's the new communicator, the press release seems to say that Series 80 will continue to be used for this. Don't quite follow it as it also says it will be integrated with the series 90 SDK.

[RobP]

And Nokia already have a page (http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,6771,47550,00.html) up for this thing!

(Thanks to mobilebpit for the nod there, those guys are on the ball!)

[mundets]

I WANT THIS PHONE!!! When is it coming out?
But...what would YOU get?? This or a 6600? The bad thing about this phone is that it would always require 2 hands, and it is a BRICK. Heck, it looks larger than a 7650.

[Viipottaja]

Yeah, its kinda big (although seems ok in the hands of the guy in one of the promo pictures). I must say I never knew Finns were so damn daring (well, ok, looking at other Nokia models I kind of knew it already! And seems like taco calling is here to stay.

Very interesting, indeed...

[Dynamoo]

Sure it has a nice screen, but one of the key selling points for the Communicator is the half decent keyboard, so this isn't really a replacement for the old 9210i yet.

But.. all the components are there. The 68xx series show a determination to bring in good keyboards for text input and the 7700 has a great looking screen. It's almost a question of putting the stuff together from the Nokia parts bin!

Incidentally, a nice thing about this screen is the fact that it's WIDE so it has a chance of rendering web pages properly.

[RobP]

I'm not sure how you use the 7700 as a phone, I think that's the mic hole on the back (http://nds2.photos.nokia.com/press/photo/phones/jpeg/7700_2_lowres.jpg) of the phone and is that the speaker on the front (http://nds2.photos.nokia.com/press/photo/phones/jpeg/7700_lowres.jpg)?

I wonder if you are meant to use it either with a headset or in hands free speaker mode?

As for size:

7700: 133.7 x 79.5 x ~21.6 - 165cc - 183g
6600: 108.6 x 58.2 x 23.7 - 113cc - 122g

So it's not really a phone to put in your pocket!

[jediguy]

I sure it's a brilliant, innovative phone and all...but why does it have to look like a goddamn taco?! There's no way I'm holding that thing up to my ear, especially since it's the same size as the nGage.

[Viipottaja]

that the little hole in the back corner (see promopics) is a hole for the phonespeaker and there is another little hole in the other corner for the microphone.. that would allow you to hold it against your head like a normal phone.. :-)

But I'm afraid it may indeed be a taco phone. Headsets for the timid, taco bell promotion for the brave.. lol

[hkhawk]

I'm beginning to think that Nokia doesn't understand a lot about mobile devices. The key point is they've got to be mobile! First of all, I was so disappointed to see that the 6600 was an absolute brick and now this thing is so much worse. What are they thinking?!?

[Viipottaja]

since they are still the only cell manufacturer making _significant_ profits.

6600 is biggish, I agree, but not huge. hold it in your hand and see. shape is meant to resemble a PDA and be more comfortable to hold in the palm of your hand than a very narrow phone.

7700 is big, but so are the screen and the features. it's not primarily a phone anymore. I was suprised to note that it's actually thinner than the 6600.

if you want a small Nokia phone packed with features, wait a little and buy 6230 or 6820.

[hkhawk]

Well, SE just posted their first profits this quarter so they can't be doing too badly. I already have a PDA, there is no way I could lug around a 6600 as well. Basically, the specs of the new Nokia phones (as good as they are -- nice cameras, big screens) still do not warrant the size or cost of these devices. I mean, the 7700 may have a bigger screen but otherwise isn't it pretty similar to a P900 (or a P800 for that matter) yet it's still bigger than these. The technology is available to make Nokia phones much smaller.

Also rather than waiting for the 6320 or whatever I could just buy a T610 for close to nothing now or a Z600 soon.

[RobP]

The 6600 is pretty much the same size as the other phones of that spec bracket (Sendo X, Siemmens SX1). I'd say the 7700 is more a PDA than a phone, and you aren't going to get it much smaller with that size of screen!

[Viipottaja]

Good for them, good for competition, good for consumers, good for Nokia even (makes them try a little harder) :)

I did say significant profits though: SE Euro 39m, Nokia $1222m...
Motorola is becoming profitable too. Good!

And, I said if you want a small _Nokia_ phone with a lot of features :)

[Arne Anka]

Once upon a time Nokia manufactured TV sets. With this new device, concidering its size, weigth and TV functionality it seems like Nokia are trying to go back to TV set manufacturing and leave
the mobilephone segment. Who knows, perhaps we will se more portable TV sets from Nokia in the future. :D

[Michael]

I dunno, based on some of the recent handsets I think we might be able to infer that Nokia is looking to get into the Taco business.....

[hkhawk]

I think maybe that's what they mean by convergence, a taco you can watch TV on (or play games on).

[Michael]

I must admit, fast food and entertainment together sounds pretty marketable.

Those clever Nokia guys.....

[Viipottaja]

...maybe we will get long rubber boots with a tv and a phone on them? Talking into one would look even cooler than talking to a taco! :D

[AL9999]

Oh.......my.......God.......

(Has been rendered completely speechless)

[orthotomeo]

That's a pretty big feature set they advertise on the web site... I'm sure that Nokia and SE could both put that into an object the size of a credit card but half as thick right?

Look at the display. Look at the features. Everybody keeps saying that Nokia could do it smaller. I'm sure if it was cost efficient to make it smaller and quality efficient to make it possible, wouldn't they have done so?

Hands up everyone who has dropped their phone? Now to understand simple mechanics, we have to realise that when something drops, it is likely to break. The only way to protect it is to make sure the structure will withstand a 1.5-2.0 m drop. I mean that's what you'd hope they'd do anyway.

I know we can't peek inside Nokia R&D but there has to be a reason for the size of it. If anything, I'd agree that the design is a little silly. Taco phones (and it is a taco with speaker and mike on the bottom edge) may not be the best layout but it does have its benefits for compacting the design.

the mobile phone paradox: "The phone is too big, the screen is too small!"

Cheers:confused:

[Michael]

Originally posted by orthotomeo
Look at the display. Look at the features. Everybody keeps saying that Nokia could do it smaller. I'm sure if it was cost efficient to make it smaller and quality efficient to make it possible, wouldn't they have done so? Not the Nokia I know. Nokia tends to put out just enough to maintain their domination. They give away nothing for free, so to speak.

They always save something better for the future, when the market pressures increase.

[nifty1987]

Damn I just posted a big long post in the wrong forum (first posts always seem to be retarded, if one of you mods could move it that's fine with me.)

Anyway I can imagine the next Nokia slogan...

"Nokia... It's good to taco.. I mean talk!"

[hkhawk]

Originally posted by orthotomeo
That's a pretty big feature set they advertise on the web site... I'm sure that Nokia and SE could both put that into an object the size of a credit card but half as thick right?

Look at the display. Look at the features. Everybody keeps saying that Nokia could do it smaller. I'm sure if it was cost efficient to make it smaller and quality efficient to make it possible, wouldn't they have done so?


Hey, the Toshiba e805 Pocket PC is coming out this month. Not only will it have a better display (higher resolution -- 480X640 as opposed to 640X320, newest Sharp technology), but it will be much faster (newest 400mhz XScale), have more memory (128MB RAM), more expandability (CF and SD slots -- you can put a 6GB CF card in this thing and still use the SD for something else), built-in WiFi or Bluetooth, and an OS with thousands of third party applications, but it costs $600 and has the same dimensions as the 7700 except it is 6mm less thick! Just add a GSM/GPRS CF card and you have a much more powerful PDA (the 7700 is not really a phone, I agree) that is more than 25% smaller than the 7700 by volume and with a higher resolution screen. Yes this will not have the same ease of use when used as a phone but it is certainly a more impressive piece of hardware by far for maybe less than Nokia is going to sell the 7700. Bottom line, this device (and the 3650 and 6600) for that matter are rediculously oversized!

[RobP]

The 3650 is big, but I disagree that the 6600 is. Sure, it's not tiny, but it's a good pocket size. I'm comparing it to my current phone, the SPV, and it's actually shorter, 1cm wider and about the same thickness.

Everyone seems to expect that all these new phones should be the same size as the 8310, but also want a big colour screen and battery life of 10 days. Well you can't have all of that in a tiny package!

[enexat]

Yet!!!

[AL9999]

RobP, there are now phones in Japan with 2 inch 18-bit TFT colour screens (ie 262k colours), 1 inch 16-bit colour STN subscreens, 2MP cameras and 40-tone polyphonics, all packed into the size of the Sharp GX-20. And last I heard they were still managing decent battery times (along the lines of 2 hours talktime and more than 10 days standby time).
Take a look at this phone Sharp made for Vodafone in Japan, and you'll see what I mean =)
http://www.vodafone.jp/english/release/2003/031016e_1.pdf

The technology is there to make them far smaller than they are on the market now. The phone manufacturers just don't want to rush the standard course of technology's evolution so they can milk the market as much as they can. =)

[nifty1987]

Uhm... A dog bark translator?

Nice lookin' phone though... and I've always wanted to know what my dog is saying.

[hkhawk]

Yeah, man. That phone is still considerably smaller than the 6600, not to mention the 7700 and yet it offers a lot more. If it's made by Sharp both the screens will be awesome and a 2Megapixel camera! Not to mention the dog barking translator. That phone is hot!:D

[Viipottaja]

yep, all we need to do now is to move to Japan :) Wish all other countries catch up with them at some point.

[AL9999]

Oh yeah the Dog Translator, forgot about that one, hehehe.

You have to buy the SD-card expansion pack to enable that one though I think.

Anyway, I do think the world will catch up somewhat with Japan when 3G takes off. If you look at NTT DoCoMo's FOMA phones or the Vodafone Global Standard phones, you'll see they're not much different from Three's offerings (especially the V-N701 by Vodafone, which is merely a Vodafone-badged e606! =P)
http://www.vodafone.jp/english/service/vgs/product/n701.html

[smalltown]

Originally posted by orthotomeo
That's a pretty big feature set they advertise on the web site... I'm sure that Nokia and SE could both put that into an object the size of a credit card but half as thick right?

Look at the display. Look at the features. Everybody keeps saying that Nokia could do it smaller. I'm sure if it was cost efficient to make it smaller and quality efficient to make it possible, wouldn't they have done so?

Hands up everyone who has dropped their phone? Now to understand simple mechanics, we have to realise that when something drops, it is likely to break. The only way to protect it is to make sure the structure will withstand a 1.5-2.0 m drop. I mean that's what you'd hope they'd do anyway.

I know we can't peek inside Nokia R&D but there has to be a reason for the size of it. If anything, I'd agree that the design is a little silly. Taco phones (and it is a taco with speaker and mike on the bottom edge) may not be the best layout but it does have its benefits for compacting the design.

the mobile phone paradox: "The phone is too big, the screen is too small!"

Cheers:confused:


Nice new design. I think nokia recently make new design to his new phne. Nokia wants his user got new impresion on his products.