7610 or 6260??

[seventh85]

:p I'm planning to buy new phone and kinda confused to buy which one...Please help me in deciding :confused: :)

Nokia 7610 ( I heard there are a lot of problem from this one)
Nokia 6260 (nice one)

by the way i need phone which has these features:
-mp3/aac player
-mmc slot
-camera 1 megapix
-doesnt has software problem
-symbian
-radio

[ozziegn]

well seeing since the 7610 is already available and the 6260 has not even one remote sign of being available, I guess the answer is obvious as to which one you should get.

they both look like cool phones.

I just wish that Nokia would get off their cans and get the damn 800 band version of the 7610 out. :mad:

[cdover]

:p I'm planning to buy new phone and kinda confused to buy which one...Please help me in deciding :confused: :)

Nokia 7610 ( I heard there are a lot of problem from this one)
Nokia 6260 (nice one)

by the way i need phone which has these features:
-mp3/aac player
-mmc slot
-camera 1 megapix
-doesnt has software problem
-symbian
-radio

Oh, um well:

Mp3 player: 7610 yes however mono, 6260 yes stereo
MMC slot: 7610 no - RSMMC, 6260 yes
Camera: 7610 1mp, 6260 VGA
No software problems: phones will always have software problems
Symbian: 7610 yes, 6260 yes
Radio: 7610 no, 6260 yes.

So, with one point for every yes (mono doesn't count). 7610 scores: 2 points. 6260 scores: 4 points. So I guess 6260 is the way to go, unless ofcourse you REALLY need a megapixel camera, then perhaps the 7610.

[Jose_R.A.M]

well i think you should get 6260 when its released, (prob next week in uk, carphone warehouse are very promt with getting their phones early)



Why?

Its got all the features that you want out of the two youve listed except for the 1mp camera. But considering the quality of the 7610 its not really worth choosing it for that alone. The 6260 has many great strengths, one is the external mmc slot. Good because MMCs are cheaper and more available, plus you dont have to turn phone of bla bla u know the score.

Also, it has Radio and in stereo! OMG! WOW! Little things make a difference ya know. Id think the only strength of 7610 is the camera, and even that isnt really worth it. Screens are both the same except in 6260 you can twist it and the screen will change alignment, and look like a DV cam...hmm dv cam...

No Software problems cannot be guaranteed, by any manufacturer, as there can always be faults in anything, but that isnt really a problem as it can be easily fixed.

The 6260 would probably not be as expensive as 7610 when its first out cos it doesnt have the "new features" of rs-mmc and mp cam, which i think is real good, and its best value for money. plus accessories for it are cheaper, eg mmc cards. If it does come out cheaper, you can then buy a digi cam, which is not really that much of a hassle to bring around....but if u dont care bout the money and just want to say "i have an mp cam phone" then do so....i know people whod rather have an Ipod than one of the newer award winning (beating ipod) Irivermp3 just cos its a nicer name....hmmm....crazy

[cdover]

Its got all the features that you want out of the two youve listed except for the 1mp camera. But considering the quality of the 7610 its not really worth choosing it for that alone. The 6260 has many great strengths, one is the external mmc slot. Good because MMCs are cheaper and more available, plus you dont have to turn phone of bla bla u know the score.

Also, it has Radio and in stereo! OMG! WOW! Little things make a difference ya know. Id think the only strength of 7610 is the camera, and even that isnt really worth it. Screens are both the same except in 6260 you can twist it and the screen will change alignment, and look like a DV cam...hmm dv cam...

Haha, now you make me want to get one!

[Ahmad007]

Seventh85:

well my friend, the only phone u need with the specifications u mentioned is the 6630.

The 6260 have a VGA, not 1 MP.
if you realy need the 1 MP cam, then u might want to wait for the 6630.

[Wyatt]

The 6260 has many great strengths, one is the external mmc slot. Good because MMCs are cheaper and more available, plus you dont have to turn phone of bla bla u know the score.


I thought 6260 uses RS-MMC?

[-Chin_Chai-]

I thought 6260 uses RS-MMC?


The 6260 uses MMC card slot

[-Chin_Chai-]

:p I'm planning to buy new phone and kinda confused to buy which one...Please help me in deciding :confused: :)

Nokia 7610 ( I heard there are a lot of problem from this one)
Nokia 6260 (nice one)

by the way i need phone which has these features:
-mp3/aac player
-mmc slot
-camera 1 megapix
-doesnt has software problem
-symbian
-radio


Think of the 6260 like a 6230 with Symbian+Flip and the 7610 like 6600 with 1mp camera..If i were you, Id rather wait for the 6260

[Ahmad007]

Think of the 6260 like a 6230 with Symbian+Flip and the 7610 like 6600 with 1mp camera..If i were you, Id rather wait for the 6260

Nop u can't compare 6260 and 6230, what u mean is:

The 6260 is a 6600 but with stereo sound output.

and the 7610 is a 6630 but without stereo sound output.

[shaheen]

id take the 6260. 7610 has only one thing over the 6260 and thats a mp cam, and right now its been cosidered as not the best. so why bother with the cam? 6260 is just a neat lil package. a bit big but i think ill get over it. im still considering what to get as my next phone.

1.sendo x 2.panasonic x700 3.6260. all vga cam but i can dig it.

[Jose_R.A.M]

I thought 6260 uses RS-MMC?
yeah...hmm..mmc slot.....nokia says it comes with 32mb one...its practically 6600 in twisty flip clamshell + PTT functions, stereo, radio, pop port...its got IRDA! bit old but i liekd total ir remote ...v useful....funny in "Currys" (not a food shop)..and it looks normal(as in 6630 not looking normal)

VGA's cool! unless u print out ur pics...vga is cool cos its easier to upload to websites (moblog sites or msn groups)...and u can upload more of them. nokia mp cams not really worth it....U cant really notice the quality on ur phone...I wish sharp would hurry up and make a smart phone...i'll def buy that when they make it and release it.

[zalameh1]

The 6260 uses MMC card slot

im pretty sure the 6260 uses RS-MMCs.. watch the demo on the 6260 Nokia site.
also someone else who saw the prototype said that it uses RS-MMCs.

[shaheen]

id rather it had mmc cards. theyre cheaper.

[Jose_R.A.M]

im pretty sure the 6260 uses RS-MMCs.. watch the demo on the 6260 Nokia site.
also someone else who saw the prototype said that it uses RS-MMCs.
lol...ok..check this out (http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,8764,58691,00.html) ...strange though..
Memory Functions* (6260)

6 MB built-in phone memory
Includes a 32 MB MMC memory card, preloaded with a number of applications you can try for free
Easy MMC exchange capability: change MMC cards without turning the phone off
3.5 MB internal shared memory for contacts, text messages, multimedia messages, ringing tones, images, video clips, calendar notes, to-do list, and applications
nokia could be wrong but i doubt it. someone woulda noticed by now...

[Jose_R.A.M]

ok, one thing though ive failed to note...

SINCE NOKIA 6260 USES MMC, IT THEREFORE CAN USE RS-MMC...IT IS NOT HOWEVER LIMITED TO USING RS-MMC

[Jose_R.A.M]

ok, one thing though ive failed to note...

SINCE NOKIA 6260 USES MMC, IT THEREFORE CAN USE RS-MMC...IT IS NOT HOWEVER LIMITED TO USING RS-MMC
OMG IM REPLYING TO MYSELF....JUST LOOKED AT THE DEMO AGAIN...LOOK AT THE PHOTO BELOW...CONFUSING....NOKIA SAYS MMC ON FUNCTIONS BUT ITS NOT THE SAME ON THE DEMO...

[shaheen]

relax man, who cares what it comes with. it has expandable slot and thats all that matters. one thing i dont like is the position of the camera. i thought u could use browse mode and take a pic. now only i realise through that demo that its on the side. damit... there goes that idea. i think manufacturers are trying to eliminate possibility of candid shots, first they made the new k700 firmware to be unable to turn off sound, same as gx32, and alot more phones, then with s700 they made the ever obvious sideways cam feature and chrome to alert anyone who is being photograph, now this! what they dont understand is, candid photo taking position is also the easiest way to take impromptu pictures. maaan, that sux.

[cdover]

im pretty sure the 6260 uses RS-MMCs.. watch the demo on the 6260 Nokia site.
also someone else who saw the prototype said that it uses RS-MMCs.

Yeah, the 6260 *should* have an MMC slot. I don't see why Nokia can't stick with the same kind dammit? RSMMC in 7610, MMC in 6260, RSMMC in 6630. What's next? An XD slot in the 9300? A MS Duo slot for the 6670. Gr. Haha, oh well...

[Jose_R.A.M]

i think itll be easier takin candid shots with the cam on the side, cos whos gonna expect someone not facing you to be takin photos of you? I hope its possible to turn on the camera whenever cos its gonna suck if u can only use the camera when the screen is facing sideways...

but id it is possible, candid shots would be easier cos u just face the side, pretend to look out somewhere and "snap" and if u want to look at them while takin the photo then just turn the screen....stupid card slot is not external...its still under the cover...

[cdover]

but id it is possible, candid shots would be easier cos u just face the side, pretend to look out somewhere and "snap" and if u want to look at them while takin the photo then just turn the screen....stupid card slot is not external...its still under the cover...

Well atleast Nokia wasn't as stupid as to put it under the battery. Haha, hotswap MMC slot under the battery. Hahahah.

[Jose_R.A.M]

lol!

[shaheen]

i think u have to turn it sideways to take pics, but its symbian so that can be easily fixed with 3rd party software

[shaheen]

its really very thin which im so happy about, it just looks so dead sexy.


edit: Mobileburns has the phone classified as mmc card slot so im going with that. id really prefer mmc actually. its way cheaper and its atleast bigger and cant be lost easily.

[-Chin_Chai-]

its really very thin which im so happy about, it just looks so dead sexy.


edit: Mobileburns has the phone classified as mmc card slot so im going with that. id really prefer mmc actually. its way cheaper and its atleast bigger and cant be lost easily.



Yeah... I agree, Its way cheaper

[Jose_R.A.M]

i want this phone

[seventh85]

:D :cool: I decided to wait for Nokia 6260 coz it has stereo sound... :p
coz i prefer the clamshell phone...but how bout the price?? is it the same with the 7610 price?? I wonder if I can afford it...well for now my money is enough to buy 7610 :) ..maybe I'll save more money :rolleyes:

[cdover]

:D :cool: I decided to wait for Nokia 6260 coz it has stereo sound... :p
coz i prefer the clamshell phone...but how bout the price?? is it the same with the 7610 price?? I wonder if I can afford it...well for now my money is enough to buy 7610 :) ..maybe I'll save more money :rolleyes:

My guess is that the price is most likely going to be around the same as the 7610, if not, then slightly more expensive.

[DEViANT]

zalameh1 and I had this discussion before. We concluded that it takes RS-MMCs, in fact, I've moved to RS-MMC in preparation for getting this phone (because I got a good deal on a 128mb RS-MMC), and I'm pretty sure it does. The demo is pretty explanatory and everything else in that demo is to scale, I really doubt they would change the innards at such a late date, and I'm pretty sure that a full MMC wouldn't go into that flip-out slot in the demo. Plus, of course, RS-MMCs are a breed of MMC card, so saying it's MMC doesn't really prove anything (apart from the discrepancies on the Nokia website where it says RS in some places, i.e. 7610 and not in others).

Anyway, if you buy RS-MMCs they come with adaptors to make them full-blown MMCs and anyway, you can force an RS-MMC into a slot without an adaptor (did it on my N-Gage... when it was on!).

But yeah, regular MMCs are cheaper and come in sizes all the way to 1Gb, anyway as I've come to realize, I don't need that much space on my phone, 128mb would be plenty, for music I use my iPod mainly.

[bottfly7]

But yeah, regular MMCs are cheaper and come in sizes all the way to 1Gb, anyway as I've come to realize, I don't need that much space on my phone, 128mb would be plenty, for music I use my iPod mainly.

u can get rs-mmc's from this site i found on google going up to 512mb, and are of an average price, only £5 more than a 512mb mmc in the carphone warehouse!!

http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/cat/6260-Memory-Cards.htm

[shaheen]

alright its confirmed, 6260 is rsmmc, i asked a guy with a 6260 on howardforums and he said its definitely rsmmc.....stupid nokia website.

[DEViANT]

But we knew that :rolleyes: - Nokia is really pushing for RS-MMC. It would be shooting itself in the foot if it included it on it's [almost] flagship 7610 then not on the 6260.

Please don't buy RS-MMCs from that site just mentioned. Comparing prices to CPW doesn't make sense, they overcharge anyway and so does that site. You can get a 1Gb MMC for the same price as that 512mb RS-MMC. That said, 128mb RS-MMCs are a good buy now, they are almost the same price as regular MMCs.

[shaheen]

not everyone knew that mate, they were arguing what it had in earlier threads so i just cleared it up. even on the nokia website it says MMC..dont roll your eyes at me young man!:P i hate rsmmc, too tiny and expensive. i want mmc :(

[DEViANT]

Lol, well, all I can say (in the words of The Hives) is 'I hate to say I told you so'. Not to say that I'm always right, but I was in this instance and it feels great (except for my wallet which now has to fork out more for RS-MMC)!

To be fair, RS-MMC isn't a bad technology and time will come, just as SD was more expensive than MMC (those years back), when RS-MMC will be closely and competitively priced with MMC and SD - which is fine. At least there's no artificial monopoly like with Sony's MS, MS Duo, MS Duo Pro, MS MagicGate, MS Pro proprietory rubbish - which ensures prices will always remain high (you get twice the MMC/SD memory for the same price as an MS, and almost three times the MMC/SD memory for a genuine 'Sony-branded' MS, and well, 4-5 times for MS Duo, etc.).

[shaheen]

well right now a 512 SD card is more ex then a 512 MMC card. so its not a few years back, its still more expensive. i know its progression in technology but what it comes down to is how how u can spend.


anyway one more thing, if a phone lets say the 6260 had a hot swappable rsmmc slot, even though it doesnt, does that mean we can stick in a regular mmc but jsut the butt of it would stick out?... it should work...

[DEViANT]

Well, I can get 512mb SD cards slightly cheaper than MMC but clearly that's no use to me as the only thing I'd use it in is my digital camera (256mb in there and only ever used 100mb) or my PDA (whose glory days in the sun are dying fast because of my iPod and my Centrino notebook). But in the smaller-size categories, MMC is slightly cheaper than SD, so it balances, and yeah there was a huge price differential a few years back - just not so now - I never said there wasn't one.

Yes, you probably can force a regular MMC into the phone, but you risk:

a) Breaking the phone's contacts within the MMC slot
b) Snapping the hinge mechanism which holds an RS-MMC down
c) Losing the ability to attach the back cover to the phone (angles are wrong)
d) Breaking your expensive, high-capacity MMC

And after all, you spend that much money on a phone, what's a few quid price difference between MMC and RS-MMC (like I said, 128mb for me is about the same price anyway, so I went RS-MMC just for future-proofing).

[shaheen]

wow, so its opposite in uk? in sing its different, the lower memory ones like 256 mb and 128mb have practically the same price. but the higher memory ones like 512, sd card is more expensive..this is singapore prices.

[Marcioweb]

So.. MMC or rsMMC?

Is already out in UK?

In Italy..http://www.newsmobile.it/forum/html/emoticons/cattive62nono.gif

[commedecargons]

why Nokia likes doing stuffs like this, people started to adapt to RSMMC since 7610, 6260. Then Nokia announce they gotta start adapting to SD? that means MMC is also supported. So why? at the first place wanna start using RSMMC? if they wanna adapt to smaller mem cards, why dun they use RSMMC in 7280? and leave the big ones (6260, 7610) with MMC/SD cards? People always attack Memory Sticks with just one thing -- price, regarding the acceptability, it's just whether others wanna have a go with Memory Sticks, not that it's a propietory thing.
Maybe in the end, they might see how Sony users were so glad that their gadgets could all share the same format.

[shaheen]

RSMMC..how many times ive posted this?...god knows...its RSMMC.. i asked an owner, its 100% RSMMC

btw, "finally a VS i like!"

6260 for me, stereo is a must and clamshell is a must. and i dont need mp cam.

[shaheen]

the 6260 will be able to support mmc as well cause its a hot swappable slot meaning u stick in teh mmc but the back of it will stick out. its the same exact pins so it doesnt matter.

[Marcioweb]

RSMMC..how many times ive posted this?...god knows...its RSMMC.. i asked an owner, its 100% RSMMC

btw, "finally a VS i like!"

6260 for me, stereo is a must and clamshell is a must. and i dont need mp cam.

Thanks a lot :D

We're waiting..

[DEViANT]

why Nokia likes doing stuffs like this, people started to adapt to RSMMC since 7610, 6260. Then Nokia announce they gotta start adapting to SD? that means MMC is also supported. So why? at the first place wanna start using RSMMC? if they wanna adapt to smaller mem cards, why dun they use RSMMC in 7280? and leave the big ones (6260, 7610) with MMC/SD cards? People always attack Memory Sticks with just one thing -- price, regarding the acceptability, it's just whether others wanna have a go with Memory Sticks, not that it's a propietory thing.
Maybe in the end, they might see how Sony users were so glad that their gadgets could all share the same format.

They can be called what they like at the end of the day, Memory Sticks or whatever else, but they still come in about 9 different flavours (from the top of my head):

Non-pro (standard) [blue]
Pro [white]
Pro Magicgate [pinky-white]
Duo [blue]
Duo Pro [not sure]
Duo Magicgate [white]
Duo Pro Magicgate [not sure]
Dual-sided [blue]
Magicgate [white]

And most of these aren't intercompatible (i.e. Pro media won't work in non-Pro slots, Magicgate devices *only* work with Magicgate media).

So, I doubt Sony users are glad they 'could all share the same format', because they can't. It's probably more from being forced into it (from choosing a Sony product, and I can't deny they do make some great ones). I personally own 3 Sony products: DV cam (PC-110E), underwater digital camera (DSC-U60) and a Net Music player (NW-MS9), and I *hate* that I can't use my 128mb media in my music player because it's not an MG memory stick, or in none of their phones (reason I refrained from getting a P800 or P900).

Also MS Duo is hideously expensive, coming in at almost twice the price of any other media including RS-MMC, which has been out for a few months, compared to well over a year for Duo.

[Marcioweb]

the 6260 will be able to support mmc as well cause its a hot swappable slot meaning u stick in teh mmc but the back of it will stick out. its the same exact pins so it doesnt matter.

This is a good news!! :cool:

[DEViANT]

the 6260 will be able to support mmc as well cause its a hot swappable slot meaning u stick in teh mmc but the back of it will stick out. its the same exact pins so it doesnt matter.

It has a folding hinge which sits flush with the battery, I think if you do what you're suggesting it will lay the MMC forced upwards and may (after a shock or over time) just snap the hinge mechanism right off. If Nokia had wanted it to be MMC they would've made it so. I'm sure you will get people modding it like they did with the 7610 but I won't be one of them. If you do do it, I hope for your sake you don't break the phone!

[shaheen]

yea, i mean if nokia intended it to be rsmmc/mmc slot they wouldve said so. but the modifying thing is what i meant...

[Ahmad007]

Nokia introduced RS-MMC in the 7610 and the 6630, most people knew what it means, so maybe they don't bother anymore to mention if it's an rs-mmc or mmc card. From the phone demo, it confirmed that it's an rs-mmc card it will be the standard card for future Symbian phone except for the communicator series.

Plus, they plan now to include SD cards to their phones. It will be complicated, if it's just 'SD' and not 'RS-SD', then means that we'll go back again with the regular MMC cards. I'm sure that Nokia will make a phone that carries SD and MMC cards in one slot.

[jolo]

alright its confirmed, 6260 is rsmmc, i asked a guy with a 6260 on howardforums and he said its definitely rsmmc.....stupid nokia website.
Why? At least here in Finland 128 KB RS-MMCs are 4 € cheaper that standard MMCs! I just bought one.

[cdover]

Why? At least here in Finland 128 KB RS-MMCs are 4 € cheaper that standard MMCs! I just bought one.

Yeah, but what would happen if one already have LOADS of MMCs as lots of other devices that he/she has, has an MMC slot. However they we're not able to use it in the 6260. And they would then have to buy another memory card. Nokia should just stick to the same kind, I hope they do when they introduce the SD slots. :)

[jolo]

Yeah, but what would happen if one already have LOADS of MMCs as lots of other devices that he/she has, has an MMC slot. However they we're not able to use it in the 6260. And they would then have to buy another memory card. Nokia should just stick to the same kind, I hope they do when they introduce the SD slots. :)
I do think I have heard that there are mini SD cards as well ... format wars are never pretty. I did hear that the RS-MMCs use less power in addition to being smaller, so that is a good reason to move to them. If there is nothing i hate more, its running out of power ;)

[commedecargons]

They can be called what they like at the end of the day, Memory Sticks or whatever else, but they still come in about 9 different flavours (from the top of my head):

Non-pro (standard) [blue]
Pro [white]
Pro Magicgate [pinky-white]
Duo [blue]
Duo Pro [not sure]
Duo Magicgate [white]
Duo Pro Magicgate [not sure]
Dual-sided [blue]
Magicgate [white]

And most of these aren't intercompatible (i.e. Pro media won't work in non-Pro slots, Magicgate devices *only* work with Magicgate media).

So, I doubt Sony users are glad they 'could all share the same format', because they can't. It's probably more from being forced into it (from choosing a Sony product, and I can't deny they do make some great ones). I personally own 3 Sony products: DV cam (PC-110E), underwater digital camera (DSC-U60) and a Net Music player (NW-MS9), and I *hate* that I can't use my 128mb media in my music player because it's not an MG memory stick, or in none of their phones (reason I refrained from getting a P800 or P900).

Also MS Duo is hideously expensive, coming in at almost twice the price of any other media including RS-MMC, which has been out for a few months, compared to well over a year for Duo.

Your right, but not all; first memory sticks, they consist of:
1. Memory Stick (<256MB)
2. Memory Stick Pro(256MB< onwards)
3. Memory Stick Duo (Shorter ones, <256MB)
4. Memort Stick Pro Duo (Shorter ones 256MB< onwards)
5. Memory Stick MagicGate (Higher Speeds for better audio/video quality)

Compatibility issue is only between non Duo or Duo, or non Pro or Pro. Thats it. MagicGate had nothing to do with it. Duo is a smaller issue cos u can always get the Duo and have the jacket.

P.S....ok ur right........... :D

[francisofarabia]

SD card readers will always take MMC cards, actually it should be named SD/MMC card readers, so SD/MMC should be the way to go, and to top it all, this reader is becoming common in laptops and even a lot of desktops are sporting it, removing the FDD, which is more than 10 years old already, if i am not mistaken...

SD/MMC is the way to go... and SE should adapt, well i know it is an impossible dream...

[Ahmad007]

I think then there will be RS-MMC/Mini-SD readers in the next couple of Nokia Symbian phones :D

[cdover]

If there is nothing i hate more, its running out of power ;)

Hahaha. Well I never run out of power :p. Um yeah, just wish Nokia will stick to the same card slot (or even better, put all of them in a phone :D).

[shaheen]

im waiting more for built in hard drives....1gb is enuf for me...

[DEViANT]

im waiting more for built in hard drives....1gb is enuf for me...

Good luck with that... power management will be a big issue when that comes as will the number of people who drop their phone and wonder why it makes a clicking noise when they next use it ;)

I agree 1Gb would be very cool, but then as you can do that with MMC and SD cards, I think that's the way forward.

[shaheen]

samsung just made a harddrived phone already. 1.5gb...think its caled the VCH A540 or somethign, im not sure..yea its true its a lil more sensitive to bumps but the actualy HD is the size of a coin...literally that big. imagine how much room they got left to build a casing around that harddrive that will last?.. when u think about it we got the technology to do something like this..as for the power consumption i couldnt care less, i charge my phone every night even if its still full, im not a traveller or heavy caller or smser, so its fine with me..

[DEViANT]

Well, that coin-sized hard disk has been around for years in the form of the IBM Microdrive (1"/CF form factor) and the coin is the size of the platter only, not the heads and servos. Anyway, that phone is in prototype stage (not that Samsung have made any decent smartphones to talk of and therefore 1.5Gb in that phone seems pointless) and won't be around for a while. I think the actual shock ratings for an active hard disk device are about 50 times lower than a flash based one.

[Ahmad007]

I hope that there will be a day when small external USB 250 Gig flash drives can conect to Nokia symbian phones like the PC, where a new drive on the phone called for example 'F:' drive. That's if there a flash USB drive with a capacity of 250 Gigs.

That would be cool :D