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gangstar
08-27-2004, 05:55 AM
Does anyone know of any formats of music other than .ogg or .aac which are of a higher quality than mp3 at the same bitrate?

I normally use .aac's on my phone but then I saw .ogg format. Only thing the stupid application says my phone is mono and not stereo and plays them ata a crap sample rate. If anyone could direct me to a better .ogg playing app than oggplay (series60) or a better format of music, I'd be darned grateful.

nk_au
08-27-2004, 06:27 AM
All I do, is convert my favourite songs to mono mp3s for my 7610.

The files end up between 800kb to 1.2mb

Ruler_70
08-27-2004, 06:54 AM
All I do, is convert my favourite songs to mono mp3s for my 7610.

The files end up between 800kb to 1.2mb

Hey, what program do you use to convert stereo mp3's to mono mp3's?

Cause the 6600 is also mono, so id be able to store a lot more mp3's if i could straight up make them mono.

nk_au
08-27-2004, 06:56 AM
I use DB Power Amp Convertor. And the following settings:

Encoding: Constant Bitrate
Bit Rate: 25 Kbps
Channels: Mono
Frequency: 16,000 Hz

Ruler_70
08-27-2004, 06:57 AM
I use DB Power Amp Convertor. And the following settings:

Encoding: Constant Bitrate
Bit Rate: 25 Kbps
Channels: Mono
Frequency: 16,000 Hz

Where can i get that program from?

nk_au
08-27-2004, 07:00 AM
www.dbpoweramp.com, and you may need a few codecs (available for download from the same site)

Ruler_70
08-27-2004, 08:07 AM
Cheers

-Chin_Chai-
08-27-2004, 08:39 AM
Can ogg files play in the Nokis 6230??

Ruler_70
08-27-2004, 08:45 AM
I think you need to have a .ogg player and i think they're only available for series 60 devices not series 40 devices. Im not 100% sure though

Jose_R.A.M
08-27-2004, 10:50 AM
is it normal that when you use dbpoweramp to convert files to .aac that the phone cannot pause/forward/rewind the music? Its on a setting advanced audio coding (CLI) im not sure if thats the right .aac. The sound is ok, just that i cant pause /ff/rw

DEViANT
08-31-2004, 08:35 PM
gangstar uses an N-Gage (not a 7610, ah you poor people with mono MP3 :)) so his best bet is MP3 and AAC otherwise anything else won't use the phone's hardware decoder. I would stick with MP3 and use CDex for conversion (I found it does lower bitrates better):

Lowest bitrate: 32kbit
Highest bitrate: 112kbit
Stereo mode: Joint Stereo
VBR mode: MTBR
VBR: 9
Quality: Very High (0)
This will produce a VBR 80-100kbit MP3 with almost indistinguishable sound difference from the original.

Jose_R.A.M, to my knowledge, you never could FF/RW AACs on the phones anyway, so it's not just you.

There are no OGG (or any other) players for series 40 devices. They can only run MIDP 2.0 Java applications.

gangstar
09-01-2004, 07:08 AM
Nice one deviant. Nah dont worry, I'll stick with 112kb AACs. I just bought a 128mb mmc so it all good.

Jose_R.A.M
09-01-2004, 07:53 AM
Jose_R.A.M, to my knowledge, you never could FF/RW AACs on the phones anyway, so it's not just you.
Thanks! bit stupid tho, since u can with all the other formats the phone can play.

DEViANT
09-01-2004, 08:25 AM
I'm not so sure, I can't seem to FF/RW MP3s on my N-Gage (not that I've tried that much) - it's not that important to me. My 6230 will FF/RW MP3s though, but I don't use AAC. I suspect it's something to do with the way audio is encoded and decoded (a bit like WMV files without indexing, you can't seek those either).

[ a r c h e r*]
09-02-2004, 08:09 AM
i hav a 4-6 MB mp3 files...i convrt it...ends up 300kb to 600kb... :)

Jose_R.A.M
09-02-2004, 09:07 AM
when u play it doesnt it sound awful? good for ringtones tho.

[ a r c h e r*]
09-04-2004, 05:14 AM
NOPE :) i use ultra mp3 player application... 16 bits 14 khz... squeezed! :)

jc_seremify
09-04-2004, 05:30 AM
its ok- but i prefer to not use phone for mp3 since its so soft.

nk_au
09-04-2004, 05:23 PM
My settings (posted previously) are great for the 7610.

I use my favourite mp3s as ringtones now, and they sound good.
But it might get muffled in songs like "Linkin Park - By Myself"

But "Maroon 5 - She Will Be Loved" is perfect. (Hehehe ... ringtone for my feminine friends :D)

So yea ... JOSE R.A.M, its alright for the 7610. Not sure about the 6600 though, because the 7610 (somehow) has a louder loudspeaker. If that makes sense ...

manav
09-05-2004, 04:22 AM
I use the MP3 feature lot now a days since I am away from my home. Anyways I don't get decent output from the 6600 and thats why I am waiting for the S700 any news when is it coming out?

Jose_R.A.M
09-05-2004, 05:40 AM
NK_AU,

I had maroon 5, she will be loved cos its a fab song! but when he sings high its very very irritating so i deleted it.

I think the best "ringtone" would be if .avi files could be used, like psiloc vision with .3gps

abood
09-25-2004, 02:28 PM
hey all,
I'm having trouble playing my .ogg files as ringtones on my 7610. They appear in the ringtone selection menu and work fine in oggplayer and the 7610's own media player... It's just when someone is actually calling I don't hear anything. I found someone with the same problem on howardforums but no one came up with a solution. My mono mp3's seem to work fine except the sound quality isn't as good. Very confused about the whole thing :confused:

DEViANT
09-25-2004, 07:48 PM
hey all,
I'm having trouble playing my .ogg files as ringtones on my 7610. They appear in the ringtone selection menu and work fine in oggplayer and the 7610's own media player... It's just when someone is actually calling I don't hear anything. I found someone with the same problem on howardforums but no one came up with a solution. My mono mp3's seem to work fine except the sound quality isn't as good. Very confused about the whole thing :confused:

It's because the 7610 doesn't have an integrated OGG player therefore it can't use the files as ringtones, just as in the same way you could install an MP3 player on the 6600 (and it sucked) but you couldn't select MP3s as ringtones on it. Sorry but to my knowledge you can't use OGG files as ringtones.

abood
09-26-2004, 10:20 PM
thnx for the reply DEViANT but if the 7610 didn't have native .ogg support, would it play the files in its own media player (without oggplayer)? Because thats whats happening on mine :confused: Or maybe oggplayer enables it to play them...hmm...don't know whats going on here.

DEViANT
09-27-2004, 06:46 AM
Not too sure then, but that's the way I saw it on the 6600. And now that I think of it, the phone might allow you to play MP3 (on 6600) or OGG in its own media player once you have the codec installed - but I really didn't look that hard because the sound was awful.