Nokia 9300/The Next Nokia Handset

[Bouvin]

The release date for the Nokia "9300" seems to be the 8th of Septemeber, and the place of release is said to be New York. All this according to the swedish newspaper Svenska Dagbladet.
(Link: http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/naringsliv/did_8024524.asp)

The communicator are said to be smaller than 9500, almost the same size as the 6310i, and lacks therefore functions as w-lan, 3G and built in camera. The last fuction is asumed to be removed since many big companies have a new policy against camera-phones. The first communicator with 3G is expected in 2005, presented Q1.

Nokia refuses to comment on this but its obvious that this is the most important release from Nokias Enterprise unit this year.

It will also have versions of Word and Excel bulit in, aswell as websurfing and e-mail, features that is expected to be the key to increased market share.

The 9300 will have the same platform as the 9500 and the software will therefore be compatible with both terminals.
The price will be 7500SEK for the 9500, and 6500SEK is the expected price for the 9300.

[Hengky]

What??! Is this a JOKE??!!

[Ruler_70]

Erm, i dont find it very credible, seeing as no phone company would be so stupid as to release a phone before announcing it.

Maybe they'll be announcing it on the 8th of September, but i seriously doubt that they'll be releasing it.

Plus although a communicator that small would be cool, it might destroy the whole purpose of the communicator series - qwerty keyboard in a mini notebook style.

Just my opinion.

[DEViANT]

I find it hard to believe that no-one has said something before really, if this phone does exist... though it would be nice to think it did.

[TheZodiac]

Oh, its real my children, its real. But, thats also the sad part.

[fulani]

It IS real? I want one then.

[DEViANT]

Well, it's very hush hush, cos it's not on Nokia's own website yet... I don't like doubting people but I don't like being caught off guard by some rumour - if you have any links from reputable sites, please post them here.

P.S. TheZodiac, what's sad?

[cdover]

Was yahooing the Nokia 9300 and found these:

http://www.shopforphones.com/nokia-9300.htm

http://www.hacktv.metropoliglobal.com/setup.htm <-- Mentioned only

It's mentioned at this place as well --> http://www.ryanair.securedservers.co.uk/acatalog/sitemap.html

And Mobil Idnes has info as well, but I'm guessing that it's just a repeat of the information stated in the Swedish site. http://mobil.idnes.cz/aktuality/nokia9300vnewyorku040825.html

[DEViANT]

Yeah, that's what I meant. These sites aren't reputable, I mean on that first one 'Shopforphones', it's clearly a doctored picture and site look so crap I wouldn't really trust anything on there. Besides, the 9300 doesn't really have any bearing on me if it does exist. I just like to stay on top of things in the mobile world if I can.

[TheZodiac]

The interface looks terribley silly to me. We'll know in a week. Time to wait thats all. Unles something else "reuptable" shows up :)

[Ruler_70]

Hmm, that pic looks so fake its rediculous.

Im pretty sure the phone isnt gana look like that.

If this 9300 is really for real that would be great seeing as wi-fi isnt that important for me at this point. My 6600 already has a VGA cam so i dont need another anyway.

Hmm, if this is for real, its starting to sound really good :)

[Ruler_70]

Mobile9.com has also posted the story:

http://news.mobile9.com/2004/08/nokia-9300-to-be-unveiled-next-month

[zalameh1]

Mobile9.com has also posted the story:

http://news.mobile9.com/2004/08/nokia-9300-to-be-unveiled-next-month

the picture is obviously fake... i think its just a drawing to give people an idea of what they are talkin about...
also the pic on the mobile9 site is the same as the one in shopforphones.. its got the shopforphones watermark on it.

[TheZodiac]

Nokia is on a downward spiral is all I mean. I dont think the 9500 or the 930 for that matter is going to pick them up anytime soon. They need to aaounce phones, and release them quickly to acclaim interest and sales. I think their business plan stinks. Not to mention some of the horrible hardware decisions they have made with phones.

I hope this is their way or rectifieing this. Sensible releases in a timely manner.

[palooza]

It is real...

Nokia are suffering in rapidly decreasing sales, so need to start expanding thier horizons... PDA's are BIG business these days, and Nokia owning a HUGE stake in Symbian need to bolster their income to stay alive, hence the imergence of this device. They want and NEED to compete with the likes of MS and Palm handsets, so this is a very logical step....

[Ruler_70]

Well unlike anyone might say i personally think that the Mpx and P900 series of phones cant compare to the funtionality of the 9500 and prob even the 9300. Like has been mentioned before alot of companies dont allow camera phones on their premises for security reasons, so the fact that the Mpx220 will have 1.3Mpx cam doesnt matter and at the end of the day it'l probably loose a lot of sales because of this.

It seems that if the 9300 is in fact for real then it will probably become the big seller in the corporate world because of its lack of camera.

[Dynamoo]

It seems that if the 9300 is in fact for real then it will probably become the big seller in the corporate world because of its lack of camera.

Agreed. In fact, I think the 9300 is probably the natural upgrade for most 9210i users. They'll like the fact that it's lighter and has GPRS. Umm yeah I guess it might be a couple of hundred dollars cheaper too. My gut feeling is that the Nokia 9300 will be a darned good phone, and I don't even like Nokia that much.

I've found a better picture of the handset:

http://www.shopforphones.co.uk/images/nokia-9300-fake.jpg

..and just like the original one, it's a fake as described here. (http://www.shopforphones.co.uk/nokia-9300-2.htm)

[Ahmad007]

I'm not sure if a communicator would have a series 90 in it, cuz the fake picture implies that the 9300 will have a touch screen and stylus.

weird.

[difenbaker]

The release date for the Nokia "9300" seems to be the 8th of Septemeber, and the place of release is said to be New York. All this according to the swedish newspaper Svenska Dagbladet.
(Link: http://www.svd.se/dynamiskt/naringsliv/did_8024524.asp)

The communicator are said to be smaller than 9500, almost the same size as the 6310i, and lacks therefore functions as w-lan, 3G and built in camera. The last fuction is asumed to be removed since many big companies have a new policy against camera-phones. The first communicator with 3G is expected in 2005, presented Q1.



...mmm, IMO nokia is in for a shock.

part of the appeal of the 9500 (and the rest of the communicator series) is that it has "everything but the kitchen sink".... having almost evey function there is at that time that they were released. Like the nokia 9000 when it came out - it was quite "expensive" but it was justifiably so because it had great features. Now they want us to buy a communicator that's intentionally "lacking" 3G, a camera, and wifi? They will probably regret their decision when they see the p910 selling more than their 9300.

cheers!

[Jose_R.A.M]

whats it look like closed?

[TheZodiac]

I have the suspicious (and obvious) feeling that this is just a joke. A mock up because someone somepalce heard there would be a "lite communicator" and decided to make a mock up. That screen is obviously horsepoo. Id be pressed (and suprised) is there is really a 9300 period. I could do a better job with a crayola crayon set and parchment paper!

They (nokia) Do need a light communicator though - and a better communication with its customers. I mean seriously - they are only the biggest because they are pigs. the other ocmpanies have design, features and ideas that are so far ahead - they are starting to look bland altogether. I sure hope they are listening.

[Ahmad007]

TheZodiac:

I agree with u that some one made a joke upon Nokia releasing lite versions or i versions of the same phone quickly.

But I disagree that Nokia don't have design. No one cares if they're pigs or not, they are making lots of money. If they don't have design at all, then why most people buy Nokia phones?

[cdover]

It's hard to define design, because if something looks nice, it's just an opinion. I think the reason why the average don't-know-anything-about-phones person buys a Nokia because it's a well known brand, which makes Nokia even more popular. If one has never heard of a brand, they would usually not go for it.

[Jose_R.A.M]

i only buy nokias cos i had a good experience with my first ones..(well not good experiences just better ones...siemens and moto was so bloody annoyin back then, their menus were so crazily confusing)..it mite be the same for most peeps i dunno, and cos they dont try other manufacturers they dont see whats out there...i like sharp...whatever they do they do it with quality.

i was thinkin of gettin a communicator for uni...too bad if this ones a fake...it mite be easier that bringing a lap top round lessons...hmmm....

[Ahmad007]

What annoys me about some of the brands like samsung and sharp and panasonic is that they do a project on releasing very nice looking and features wise phone, and then suddenly they cancel them sometimes for no reason at all. That's why am reppeled from getting any phone from them. Samsung was targeting on releasing an excelent Symbian clam shell phone, I just don't know why did they canceled the project :(

[cdover]

What annoys me about some of the brands like samsung and sharp and panasonic is that they do a project on releasing very nice looking and features wise phone, and then suddenly they cancel them sometimes for no reason at all. That's why am reppeled from getting any phone from them. Samsung was targeting on releasing an excelent Symbian clam shell phone, I just don't know why did they canceled the project :(

Samsung had software problems with the D700, like HUGE ones, most likely. Or they predicted that it wouldn't be worth it because the Symbian-wanting public isn't big enough. Don't know the actually reason, but there should always be one (or more). Other companies like Nokia and SE also cancel phones. Look at the Nokia 7700, SE Z700 and T36 <-- made by Ericsson though, Moto MPx100 and v295 and E390 etc. for instance.

[DEViANT]

I'm sure they have their reasons for cancelling phones, even if we don't agree with them. Just because they don't disclose it doesn't make them any worse.

Personally, I think the 6260 will be the phone to watch out for. Sure, it doesn't have a 1Mpix+ camera *but* it will be the first Symbian phone which has a complete feature-set, i.e. MP3 player (hardware and in stereo), radio, clamshell form factor (it's not a feature, more a different design which will make or break it for some - for me, it makes it big-time), camera, V7.0 OS, MMC slot. To me, it picks up where the N-Gage left off - because I know it wasn't a popular phone, but I'm still using it (and I'm sure gangstar will back me up here!), you really can't find a better-specced and featured phone for the money - even today, and the phone is nearing a year old now.

[TheZodiac]

Im sure people buy the Nokia brand because its probably the most recognizable brand, and because the general consumer dosnt know any better. They have LOADS of phones that are good for the general public.. but it seems to me that when integrating MM and other technologies that peopel want, they are failing. Well, i believe from reading this forum that thats the general consensus. I just wish they would come out with and END all design, and function phone. Actually, seems most companies need to do that.

[difenbaker]

Personally, I think the 6260 will be the phone to watch out for. Sure, it doesn't have a 1Mpix+ camera *but* it will be the first Symbian phone which has a complete feature-set, i.e. MP3 player (hardware and in stereo), radio, clamshell form factor (it's not a feature, more a different design which will make or break it for some - for me, it makes it big-time), camera, V7.0 OS, MMC slot. To me, it picks up where the N-Gage left off - because I know it wasn't a popular phone, but I'm still using it (and I'm sure gangstar will back me up here!), you really can't find a better-specced and featured phone for the money - even today, and the phone is nearing a year old now.

... and you don't think that it's too big?

http://www.mobilmania.cz/Files/Obrazky/art16/nokianew3/G/ipage00044.htm

http://www.mobilmania.cz/Files/Obrazky/art16/nokianew3/G/ipage00045.htm

maybe it will come out as being lighter in weight than a 7610, but I wonder how it would look, unfolding a clamshell that big and using it?

(in a somewhat related note: I have used an XDA-II without the headphones, putting it to my ear, and people all around was staring! hehehe.... :D :D :D )

anyway, you're correct, the 6260 does have great specs. When it comes out - people all over might just forget the 7610 and 6600, and buy this one instead.


cheers!

[Dynamoo]

Well.. if we're broadening out the discussion to the next killer Nokia handset, I think the 6260 is probably it.

As we've discussed here recently, the problem with the 7xxx series is that they're a bit "experimental". Take the features from a 7610 and put it in a 6000 series design and you have a winner. Quite why Nokia didn't make the 7610 look something like the 6600/6620 is a mystery.

What's *really* frustrating about Nokia is that they have all the building blocks they need to make truly great phones - they just can't put them in the same handset. What I really want is a decent screen (176x220 pixels or better), a megapixel camera, GPRS, EDGE, Bluetooth, VPN client, memory card reader, MP3 player, decent keyboard and half decent looks. The 6260 is very close, but it's still not quite there. But they're still churning out rubbish with 128x128 pixel displays. <sigh>.

[Viipottaja]

Well, probably the reason to not make 7610 look like 6600 was to extend the life of the 6600/6620. I think they are still selling quite well, both of them.

[Ahmad007]

Well you won't get your dream phone from Nokia. Look at the 6260, very nice phone, it has almost all of the features that u dreamed of, but without the Mega pixel camera. They did it in purposes so that you'll keep buying their products. Just think of what if Nokia 7610 had Stereo sound support, would you buy any other phone? I guess the answer is no. Nokia doesn't want that. Look at the 6630, very super, it has everything, except for its looks, it's ugly and maybe bulky. So they sacrefice a feature or two for the sake of their company.

[DEViANT]

Well you won't get your dream phone from Nokia. Look at the 6260, very nice phone, it has almost all of the features that u dreamed of, but without the Mega pixel camera. They did it in purposes so that you'll keep buying their products. Just think of what if Nokia 7610 had Stereo sound support, would you buy any other phone? I guess the answer is no. Nokia doesn't want that. Look at the 6630, very super, it has everything, except for its looks, it's ugly and maybe bulky. So they sacrefice a feature or two for the sake of their company.

No, in my mind, the 7610 is lacking IR, hardware MP3 playback, radio and a normal MMC slot (admittedly the 6260 uses RS-MMC but ok) - and at the launch time, RS-MMC was expensive (now it's getting cheaper). So even if it had stereo MP3, it wouldn't be the end all of phones (and I'm still not convinced it has high sample rate MP3 playback, so will someone please find out and tell me...).

[Ahmad007]

The stereo sound quality in the 6260 may be the same as N-Gage, but won't be as louder as the N-Gage.

[jolo]

No, in my mind, the 7610 is lacking IR, hardware MP3 playback, radio and a normal MMC slot (admittedly the 6260 uses RS-MMC but ok) - and at the launch time, RS-MMC was expensive (now it's getting cheaper).

I just bought a 128 kb rs-mmc which was cheaper than the 128 'normal' MMC ... it seems like prices are really dropping.

[DEViANT]

The stereo sound quality in the 6260 may be the same as N-Gage, but won't be as louder as the N-Gage.

How can you possibly make a comment like that?

For starters, my 6230 (using the Nokia HDS-3 supplied) was quieter than the N-Gage, until I modded the HDS-3 for my own headphones, now I get a louder output from my 6230 than I did with the same headphones on my N-Gage.

The Pop-port isn't crippled in any way, I suspect they both have the same output power.

***

My 128mb RS-MMC (Kingmax) was about the mid price range of current 128mb MMC cards so I decided to go with RS-MMC for future-proofing.

[Jose_R.A.M]

6260 is the ultimate nokia phone because the only common feature it lacks is the only feature that no one has really perfected/done very well (mega pixel cam) and mp cams arent really worth it on the phone.

[DEViANT]

Agreed, it does seem to have everything and megapixel cameras are a total gimmick, though I'd far sooner it had the camera on the flip.

[Jose_R.A.M]

i like the cam not being on the flip. its gonna be like a mini digi cam. only prob is gettin rid of my 7610 and buyin this...its out next week!! yay!

[DEViANT]

Out next week eh? That's interesting, may be getting rid of my 6230 earlier than I previously thought. Anyway it will cost a small fortune when it's released, so I'll back off until at least Christmas.

[Jose_R.A.M]

yup, carphone warehouse says september! they said 7610 comes out in july and it did (for them) i like that company. v good, v prompt, good customer care! if i werent gonna b a doctor my second choice job would be to work in carphonewarehouse!

[DEViANT]

Yeah, they offered me a job too based on the fact that I knew more about their phones than some of their staff! But in all fairness I like them, they're friendly and normally pretty good with deliveries of handsets.

[Jose_R.A.M]

yeah lol! me too! they said u can have a job but i couldnt cos i was only 16 at time and werent allowed to go do any work ...."focus on your exams blah blah...."


the only thing that their bad at is knowing about their phones. They dont even bother lookin up future phones, features, whats popular...i reckon theyre just people who go to job centre and get carphonewarehouse sales person as one of the suggestions. but the company as a whole is real good!

[Hengky]

Wow! That's HUGE for a clamshell! Sure one step behind those from SAMSUNG.

[Jose_R.A.M]

hmm...yeah! maybe thats one thing samsung does well is make em small

[Viipottaja]

Hengky??? 9300 has qwerty keyboard and big internal screen, of course it will be bigger than most clam shells.

[Hengky]

Hmm... I think we were not talking about N6300. :rolleyes:

[Daedalus]

yeah lol! me too! they said u can have a job but i couldnt cos i was only 16 at time and werent allowed to go do any work ...."focus on your exams blah blah...."


the only thing that their bad at is knowing about their phones. They dont even bother lookin up future phones, features, whats popular...i reckon theyre just people who go to job centre and get carphonewarehouse sales person as one of the suggestions. but the company as a whole is real good!


lol, no sh*t! Everyones the same where I work (The Link), their all normal people with real lives (more social lives than anything else, all 20-somethings etc) who don't give a crap about the latest handsets. Trust me guys, working in a phone shop IS NOT in any way as glamourous or exciting as it might seem. Playing with the 'latest' phones can get boring after a while, and I hardly get to do that anymore. For a Saturday job its good, but thats about it, would'nt do it full time if I could help it.

[francisofarabia]

tons of LIVE 9300 pics from MOBIL.CZ (http://mobil.idnes.cz/mobilni_komunikace/mobilni_telefony/abecedni_prehled_mt/nokia/nokia9300zive040908.html)

[cdover]

tons of LIVE 9300 pics from MOBIL.CZ (http://mobil.idnes.cz/mobilni_komunikace/mobilni_telefony/abecedni_prehled_mt/nokia/nokia9300zive040908.html)

Oo, nice. Is it me or does the screen have a blue-tint to it?

[francisofarabia]

maybe just a blue wallpaper/background, dont know, ur guess is as good as mine...

[Ruler_70]

I think the blue tint is being caused by the angle that the photos where taken at or maybe the camera that they where using.

[cdover]

I think the blue tint is being caused by the angle that the photos where taken at or maybe the camera that they where using.

Yeah, I think the first idea's right :) Seeing as the smaller screen doesn't have ablue-tint... oh well...

[DEViANT]

Blue tint is caused by white balance setting on the digital camera, I shouldn't worry about it - if it's set to automatic it tends to do things like that.