nokia 6230 vs sony ericsson k700i

[mcmax72]

well now i ave 2 write dis all again :mad: (for some reason) :mad: . could you just rite down all yr views on those two phones ONLI and which one you think is better

[commedecargons]

Originally posted by mcmax72
well now i ave 2 write dis all again :mad: (for some reason) :mad: . could you just rite down all yr views on those two phones ONLI and which one you think is better


hahaha i know what reason that was.... nvm dude, i used to do that too (but nvr got that extreme) ok; 6230 vs 700? my views will be K700 is the winner IMO. Reasons?

K700
1. looks is very important
2. build quality very important
3. nice screen important
4. MP3 is to enable it to play out real tunes as ring tones

N6230
1. Ok, card slot is important
2. Overall better battery power?

Therefore, IMO cons and pros are 4 to 1 and the SE holds 2 of the most important for me (Looks and Screen)

[sunnychandi]

this is getting so boring. please search the boards for an answer, this has been asked soooooo many times.

and in a comparison, how can you list mp3/ for ringtones as a strength of the k700 an leave it out for the 6230?

[commedecargons]

Originally posted by sunnychandi
this is getting so boring. please search the boards for an answer, this has been asked soooooo many times.

and in a comparison, how can you list mp3/ for ringtones as a strength of the k700 an leave it out for the 6230?

nonono, i'm not stating it as a advantage... just wanna make clear it's for ringtones usage... but.. oh ya; i didn't meant for it being an advantage... heheh okok 3 to 1 (still win? sorry)

P.S. i know this is a boring VS but this guy's special. did u saw his first posting of this thread? he use all kinda shortforms and was fxxked hard by Sid... hehehe

[difenbaker]

Originally posted by mcmax72
well now i ave 2 write dis all again :mad: (for some reason) :mad: . could you just rite down all yr views on those two phones ONLI and which one you think is better

I agree, THIS particular point has been argued to death already, not only here - but in other forums as well.

but anyway, here's my comments on this: (using commedecargon's outline, :D)

K700
1. looks is very important, yup, it looks better.
2. build quality very important. It's not really an all-aluminum phone, but it does look that way because of the finish and paint. I have to say build quality as a 7 (1 out of 10) - since that number 2 key often doesn't respond at all sometimes.
3. nice screen important. The k700 does have the bigger screen - but I think this is one of the factors why it has a shorter standby time.
4. MP3 is to enable it to play out real tunes as ring tones. (same as that in a 6230, so I guess this is not an advantage).
5. the k700 has themes - enabling you to change the wallpaper, color of the letters, etc.... the 6230 does not have this.
6. the k700 also has menu animations - a spotlight to highlight the icons.

N6230
1. Ok, card slot is important. Yup, the 6230 has virtually limitless memory coz you can use so many mmc cards on it.
2. Overall better battery power? Yup, the 6230 has the longer standby time.
3. The looks of the 6230 is a bit bland... but it also has good build quality, solid feeling keys, and no creaking (not yet anyway). Though some 6230 owners have said that their battery cover at the back is creaking.
4. the screen of the k700 is bigger, yes, but the screen of the 6230 is brighter. Just put the phones side-by-side, and put a white wallpaper on both, you'll immediately notice the difference.
5. the 6230 has EDGE support, not only that, it has a Class 10 EDGE capability - which I think is the fastest EDGE implementation there is right now. The k700 has no edge.
6. The 6230 also has CUSTOMIZABLE Message Alert tones - something almost all the Sony Ericsson phone lacks.(except the p900).
7. The 6230 also has the faster speed overall. Like in browsing a 90% full sim card. Just press the d-pad quickly down a number of times, the scrolling goes fast too. In the K700, you'll notice that the phone responds slower to your keypresses. In the main menu too, as mentioned by michael in his review, the menu is slower to navigate because of that annoying spotlight animation.
8. You can also easily replace the Operator logo of the 6230 with a blank one - so that it wont block the wallpaper beneath. Something you cannot do with the k700.
9. Like the k700, the 6230 can record videos, but unlike the k700 - the resulting file size is smaller than that in a k700.
10. Same with the photos taken, and ringtones stored, the file sizes of the nokia is smaller. Again, better compare them side-by-side to know.

RF performance of the 2 phones are similar, at least here in Asia, it's mostly the same. I dunno there in north am or in canada, but here - they're good enough. Loudness of the ringing and the tone volume seems the same, but I must say, the polytones on the k700 sounds so much better.


just my 2 cents.

cheers!

[francisofarabia]

if i may add, the 6230 can also do the following:

use it as a flash memory, specially if ur office PC has BT and ur home PC also has BT....no need for the USB flash (my brother was so happy when i handed over my USB flash mem)... perfect for those big photoshop files, cad files, name it...

u can play MP3 audio books-> u can have a mini library on a small cellphone...

u can have a full lenth movie...

since the screen saver clock can be seen in both indoors and outdoors, i dont carry a watch anymore....

of course, now my cd-man is gathering dust... my brother is again smilling at me...

[commedecargons]

ok, something i really wanna say for a long time, although i've been joining in other threads that do the K700VSN6230 thing; i really think that they shouldn't be compared anyway. We all should compare phones by the hardware specs. i mean; for example compare the K700 with a nokia which has BT, 0.3 cam which also takes video then it's a fair thing. then we compare side by side which does it better with the given features. K700 can be compared with the V600, A760 and err is there any Nokia similiar with K700 but without memory card slots ???

[sunnychandi]

spec wise and target market wise they are rivals, whether nokia & se intended them to be or not. se left out memory expansion, nokia kept to their s40 screen. other than that differences are small, im not sure how bad battery is on k700, im guessing its not far off 6230 batt, lasts 2 days average use.

choose the phone on what you need more, a bigger screen or memory for mp3 or whatever else.

something to note- the k700 specs listed for the screen made me assume the screen was larger than (or same as) s60 devices, eg 6600 et al. it is not.

[commedecargons]

Originally posted by sunnychandi


something to note- the k700 specs listed for the screen made me assume the screen was larger than (or same as) s60 devices, eg 6600 et al. it is not.

Screen size is calculated by inches, resolution is calculated by pixels. so if K700's screen has only 1 pixels, it can display only one color at anytime. :)

[bart]

the 6230 is a good phone, but its not great or the best of its kind.
the K700 on the otherhand is far better and the best of its kind.

on every forum you can see it 6230 vs K700 and most of the time the K700 wins and thats normal. some guys are even selling there 6230 and getting the K700.
you really think everybody needs that much of memory? you really think that that tinny screen is nice to show to your friends who have much bigger screens?
come on guys, the K700 is super. you've got to be insaine to chose a 6230 over it.

[sxr71]

The whole thing about having memory expansion is that it lets the phone also serve as you portable MP3 player. Also having FM radio makes it so I don't have to carry a separate FM radio with to the gym where the audio for all the TV channels is broadcast via FM.

All you need to carry is one phone for your communication, and for entertainment, news etc. It works out really well in a big city like NYC where you can listen to your tunes or to the radio on the subway. It's useful anywhere you might need to wait for a few minutes. It's great for jogging that you only need to carry one device.

If the K700 had an MMC slot, FM radio (I'm a little flexible on this function) and a stereo headset accessory/adapter then it would be almost a no-brainer, however as things stand it is a more difficult choice.


The other thing that AT&T users might want is EDGE capability.


Now the S700 (or even better the S710a) absolutely lets you have your cake and eat it too. I think I'm going to hold out for that one.

[commedecargons]

Originally posted by sxr71
The whole thing about having memory expansion is that it lets the phone also serve as you portable MP3 player. Also having FM radio makes it so I don't have to carry a separate FM radio with to the gym where the audio for all the TV channels is broadcast via FM.

All you need to carry is one phone for your communication, and for entertainment, news etc. It works out really well in a big city like NYC where you can listen to your tunes or to the radio on the subway. It's useful anywhere you might need to wait for a few minutes. It's great for jogging that you only need to carry one device.

If the K700 had an MMC slot, FM radio (I'm a little flexible on this function) and a stereo headset accessory/adapter then it would be almost a no-brainer, however as things stand it is a more difficult choice.


The other thing that AT&T users might want is EDGE capability.


Now the S700 (or even better the S710a) absolutely lets you have your cake and eat it too. I think I'm going to hold out for that one.

dats wat i thought, K700 is unmatchable to N6230 if it were about specs. And that slot really throws a big difference; but its up the one using it to know whether which does wha better will be preffered.

[omie]

Yes, I agree too..........The NOKIA 6230 is a far superior phone to the s-e k 700.
Esp in Battery performance, RF performance, MEMORY EXPANDABILITY, Ease of UI, Response of keys, EDGE..........,brighter screen etc etc.........
Yes it does have a wee bit smaller screen..........no big deal........

Need the S700 to put the NOKIA 6230 in it's place.....:D

Cheers,
:cool:mie

[francisofarabia]

Originally posted by bart

you really think everybody needs that much of memory?
funny that you would mentioned that wehen almost all p800/900 owners were screaming bloody hell, when SE limited the MS duo to 128MB... and why would P910 would have support for 1GB MS now???

[Sid]

Why aren't you guys considering the Motorola E398? It has similar specs and is cheaper than both the 623- and K700.

[difenbaker]

Originally posted by Sid
Why aren't you guys considering the Motorola E398? It has similar specs and is cheaper than both the 623- and K700.

hi Sid,

I had a chance to use this phone for a couple of days. I think it's nice enough, but it's irritatingly slow, it lacks an IR port, and has no FM radio unlike the 6230 and the k700.

see this:

http://www.ocworkbench.com/2004/motorola/e398/e398-5.htm

"In SMS mode, there is a bit of lag when keying in the text. If we remain in text mode, incoming SMS won't be notified until you go back to the main menu. Just make sure you press Back to go back to main menu after sending your SMS."

and it's bluetooth implementation is not that complete:

http://www.ocworkbench.com/2004/motorola/e398/e398-3.htm

"Bluetooth can be used to transfer ringtones and images to and fro from PDA, phones or PC equipped with Bluetooth. The only problem we noticed is that the phone does not allow easy transfer of Java programs to the phone. Although the packages a data cable, the software in the CD-ROM does not provide an interface for you to transfer Java programs.

As for using bluetooth, we had no luck either. According to our correspondence with Motorola, they mentioned that it is locked so that the only way to download is via GPRS.

On some Motorola models, some people have managed to use Bluetooth to transfer Java apps. You would need to check if your Bluetooth device supports OBEX Object Push. My PDA and my friends notebook doesn't. Alternatively, you can download a software MIDWAY to transfer JAVA files through the data cable (It is not very straightforward)."

So if the price of the e398 is similar to that of the 6230 and k700, then I think one is better choosing between the other 2.

cheers!

[commedecargons]

Sid had his point i guess, they really fall into the same category. Cam, BT, MEM slot bla bla bla................

[Nuttey]

Originally posted by commedecargons
Sid had his point i guess, they really fall into the same category. Cam, BT, MEM slot bla bla bla................

So do most phones, suck up!

[sunnychandi]

Originally posted by Sid
Why aren't you guys considering the Motorola E398? It has similar specs and is cheaper than both the 623- and K700.

because its a motorola, and they seem to be churning phones out but i still dont see real quality

[commedecargons]

Originally posted by Nuttey
So do most phones, suck up!

Can u list out those 'most phone' before i sucked up??:p or :mad:

[shaheen]

i think the e398 is the best out of the three. k700 looks good but i duno, when i had it in my hand, it felt so puny and lacking in stuff even though it looked good. it was so puny that the back of it just wasnt all that "camera" like anymore. i wouldnt mind it as a backup phone but i just wont get it if i had to choose. 6230 is dead to me, cant stand it. thank god i sold it off, so damn happy. the worst and i mean THE WORST build quality, worst screen worst everything. E398 is so much cheaper, has both 6230s pros and k700s pros. and its just so nice to look at! id get it in a jiffy if i were in this spot to choose

[commedecargons]

Originally posted by shaheen
i think the e398 is the best out of the three. k700 looks good but i duno, when i had it in my hand, it felt so puny and lacking in stuff even though it looked good. it was so puny that the back of it just wasnt all that "camera" like anymore. i wouldnt mind it as a backup phone but i just wont get it if i had to choose. 6230 is dead to me, cant stand it. thank god i sold it off, so damn happy. the worst and i mean THE WORST build quality, worst screen worst everything. E398 is so much cheaper, has both 6230s pros and k700s pros. and its just so nice to look at! id get it in a jiffy if i were in this spot to choose


But in my opinion, the E398 is just not that corporate look....... 6230 is dead if it were about nice looking, E398...... looks good but with all those lights and stuffs...... abit teenage look to me.........

[shaheen]

you and youre obsessive compulsive nature to classify everything to different age groups.... go to howardforums and go to motorola thread. theres 30 plus year old guys with e398s. tell them theyre acting like kids and im just gona stand back and watch the flames fly.

[commedecargons]

Originally posted by shaheen
you and youre obsessive compulsive nature to classify everything to different age groups.... go to howardforums and go to motorola thread. theres 30 plus year old guys with e398s. tell them theyre acting like kids and im just gona stand back and watch the flames fly.


hahaha.... common.. oh ya i should add IMO. But really, for example i wouldn't be much impressed if my P900 would flash around when the phone rangs..... weird ya know? but in overall, i do think that the E398 is a worth buying phone. cheers !

[Sid]

I always find it funny how websites which review computer related equipment decide to review everything under the sun. The whole point of a review is that it's written by someone in the know, not just anyone who can get their hands on a new phone. Most of these reviewers don't get a chance to properly test all the latest models on the market and compare the phones to only the ones they have used in the past. We don't claim to be experts at computers/computing in general, so you'll never find a motherboard or CPU review at MobileBurn.

In any case, Ocworkbench is wrong when it comes to the Java games installation issue. Motorola phones can accept and install Java games by simply dragging the JAR file to the "Object Push" profile in your Bluetooth software.

[commedecargons]

In any case, Ocworkbench is wrong when it comes to the Java games installation issue. Motorola phones can accept and install Java games by simply dragging the JAR file to the "Object Push" profile in your Bluetooth software.

hehe, dats how they 'BURN' other reviewers with the 'MOBILE' know how~~ :D cheers mobileburn !

[bart]

the K700 beats the 6230 hands down, end of the line
but if you want expandable memory you should consider an other phone like GX30(not that great) P900 and SX1

someone here quoted me on "who needs all that memory" well theres a diffirence between a Pxxx phone and a phone like a K700.

[sunnychandi]

the K700 beats the 6230 hands down, end of the line
but if you want expandable memory you should consider an other phone like GX30(not that great) P900 and SX1

in your opinion

why would you direct someone who wants everything of the k700/ 6230 or is stuck between them to the gx30? even michaels reviews shows they are on about par. let us leave it there in terms of advice (to the original poster- read both reviews if you havn't already) and then decide for yourself

[william]

Ok , Strenghts and weaknesses

6230
strenghts
1. expandable memory(very impt. to play mp3)
2. interchangable covers(don't worry if it gets scratched or dented, just replace it)
3. Battery life( longer than k700i)
weaknesses
1. small screen

k700i
strenghts
1. Big screen
2. nice design
weakness
1. no expandable memory
2. cover design cant be change(well yes it has a nice look, but in the long run it will be scratched, and guess which phone will look better by that time? 6230 will. bec. of the changable covers.
3. weak battery.

Well in the long run, 6230 is for keeps, and if ever u plan to sell ur 6230 in the future, u won't have a hard time selling it compared to the k700, because it(6230) will always look good!

[-Chin_Chai-]

Ok , Strenghts and weaknesses

6230
strenghts
1. expandable memmory(very impt. to play mp3)
2. interchangable covers(don't worry if it gets scratch, just replaced it)
3. Battery life( longer than k700i)
weaknesses
1. small screen

k700i
strenghts
1. Big screen
2. nice design

weakness
1. no expandable memory
2. cover design cant be change(well yes in has a nice look, but in the long run it will be scratched, and guess which phone will look better? 6230 will. bec. of the changable covers.
3. weak battery.

Well in the long run, 6230 is for keeps, and if ever u plan to sell ur 6230 in the future, u won't have a hard time selling it compared to the k700 because it will always look good!




True, True... I agree


6230 would be the rite choice if you wanna have a phone for a long time....

[bottfly7]

the sek700i has a really short battery life, like 1 day using the functions, so get the 6230. or get the 6260, it is better than either of the 2 fones, and has symbian!!

[ghaloo]

i had nokia 6230 before then sold it and got a k700i

k700i is way better .........

[zalameh1]

i had a 6230, got a k700i for 2 days, now im back with my 6230..

[commedecargons]

the sek700i has a really short battery life, like 1 day using the functions, so get the 6230. or get the 6260, it is better than either of the 2 fones, and has symbian!!

Have u used it before? i own one; today is the second day and i still have like 55% it's battery life is rather normal being compared to my exP900. Very fine with me.

I would still take the K700 if being compared to 6230.
1. Built quality
2. Design
3. Screen
4. Interface
5. I load 12 themes, 25 Java games, 8mp3 ringtones which sounded great, 50 pictures, still left with 29MB. Fine if i'm not using it as a MP3 player.

6230?
1. EDGE
2. MP3 Player
3. Nokia camera's refresh rate

[kyoots]

the SE K700i packs more value than the 6230. as said, UI is great, quality is superb and the design is way too good compared to the 6230. the camera's quite slow but has better resolution. the 6230 has a little edge on the K700i in terms of video quality

[william]

k700i's plastic glass keypads look cheap and it(keypads)easily scratches. you have no way of replacing them, unlike in the 6230. Sure 6230 has a small screen but if u are looking for a cell that u will be using as an mp3 for workouts or for a good run then I suggest the 6230(expandable memory).

[william]

i had a 6230, got a k700i for 2 days, now im back with my 6230..
Why did you go back to your original phone(6230)?

[difenbaker]

the SE K700i packs more value than the 6230. as said, UI is great, quality is superb and the design is way too good compared to the 6230. the camera's quite slow but has better resolution. the 6230 has a little edge on the K700i in terms of video quality

The camera is not the only thing that's slow - the overall UI speed of the k700 is slower too. I have both phones here with me right now as I'm writng this - and I tell you, the k700 is SLOW compared to the 6230.

Also, I think BOTH have a 65K screen, and both has a VGA camera, how can you say that the k700 has better resolution? Not to go into technical jargon - but I took pics of the same subject right now - the photo in the 6230 seems to be "less noisy" (meaning that it's not as pixelated) than that of the k700. And like I mentioned before - the screen of the 6230 is brighter too.



Just my 2 cents.

cheers!

[difenbaker]

k700i's plastic glass keypads look cheap and it(keypads)easily scratches. you have no way of replacing them, unlike in the 6230. Sure 6230 has a small screen but if u are looking for a cell that u will be using as an mp3 for workouts or for a good run then I suggest the 6230(expandable memory).

mmm.... actually you CAN have the housing of the k700 replaced, it's just not user-replaceable like the 6230. But you can go to any authorized Sony-Ericsson center and have it replaced by their technicians there. Price of the housing will be a little more expensive however.


cheers!

[commedecargons]

The camera is not the only thing that's slow - the overall UI speed of the k700 is slower too. I have both phones here with me right now as I'm writng this - and I tell you, the k700 is SLOW compared to the 6230.

Also, I think BOTH have a 65K screen, and both has a VGA camera, how can you say that the k700 has better resolution? Not to go into technical jargon - but I took pics of the same subject right now - the photo in the 6230 seems to be "less noisy" (meaning that it's not as pixelated) than that of the k700. And like I mentioned before - the screen of the 6230 is brighter too.



Just my 2 cents.

cheers!

Yupe, K700 is SLOW compared to 6230. But the overall UI is really more intuitive. In regard to the noisy thing bout the camera. yes it is; SE couldn't compare to Nokia in terms of the view finder. looking at pics thru the screen, people tend to perceive the 6230 has a better cam. move them to PC, it's the same except that the K700 has a better exposure to light (IMO)
It does have higher resolution. 65k is just the color depth. check out P800's 4k screen and P900's 65k screen. the icons edges are the same.

[difenbaker]

Yupe, K700 is SLOW compared to 6230. But the overall UI is really more intuitive. In regard to the noisy thing bout the camera. yes it is; SE couldn't compare to Nokia in terms of the view finder. looking at pics thru the screen, people tend to perceive the 6230 has a better cam. move them to PC, it's the same except that the K700 has a better exposure to light (IMO)
It does have higher resolution. 65k is just the color depth. check out P800's 4k screen and P900's 65k screen. the icons edges are the same.

Not just the viewfinder (or the phone's screen).... I'm talking about the "noise" IN the picture itself. Try to compare them side by side - both on the PC and on the phone, you'll see what I mean. The k700 photo does come out as more pixelated. Maybe this IS the reason why people does perceive the 6230 cam to be better - but I think both have the same cam specs anyhow.

Yup, I did look at them on a PC screen (not on the phone only) and yes, the photo by the k700 is more pixelated. Light exposure seems to be the same - there's no noticeable brightness (overexposure) or darkness (underexposure) on the k700 photos. The slower speed of the k700's camera doesn't exactly mean slower exposure times (like how that functions on an SLR)... I think that the slower cam just means that the phone is slow to respond, that's all.



cheers!

[zalameh1]

Not just the viewfinder (or the phone's screen).... I'm talking about the "noise" IN the picture itself. Try to compare them side by side - both on the PC and on the phone, you'll see what I mean. The k700 photo does come out as more pixelated. Maybe this IS the reason why people does perceive the 6230 cam to be better - but I think both have the same cam specs anyhow.

Yup, I did look at them on a PC screen (not on the phone only) and yes, the photo by the k700 is more pixelated. Light exposure seems to be the same - there's no noticeable brightness (overexposure) or darkness (underexposure) on the k700 photos. The slower speed of the k700's camera doesn't exactly mean slower exposure times (like how that functions on an SLR)... I think that the slower cam just means that the phone is slow to respond, that's all.



cheers!

yup, that is totally correct... i noticed that too...

anyway, here is why i went back to my 6230. (from most important to least important).
-Keypad is not easy to text with.
-Phone keeps telling me to empty my txt inbox.
-Battery life. phone died in less than 24hours when i used it as much as i used my 6230.
-useless mp3 player (cant scroll through the songs without changing the song that is being played)
-not much memory (transfered 2 songs and im down to 32mbs)
-bad loud speaker quality (when i play mp3s on max sound, the sound quality gets worse)
-slow cam, specially in video recording. also pictures dont come out as clear.

but there were some really cool things on thep phone... i will post sum pictures of both phones and write a mini review on it soon.

[william]

Overall I have to choose the 6230.
It all depends on what u look for in a phone:

Big screen choose K700i
Funkier design choose K700i
expandable memory( very important for mp3) 6230
interchangable covers(always looks new) 6230

If you would compare the 2 phones to a lover:
6230 is the marrying kind.
K700i is for one night stands.

[commedecargons]

If you would compare the 2 phones to a lover:
6230 is the marrying kind.
K700i is for one night stands.

I second that haha good one. But i'll still go for the one night stand....

[francisofarabia]

Overall I have to choose the 6230.
It all depends on what u look for in a phone:

If you would compare the 2 phones to a lover:
6230 is the marrying kind.
K700i is for one night stands.
lols... i drink to that...

[phoney]

i just hope you guys aint got beer goggles on. or it could be coyote ugly in the morning.

[zalameh1]

u guys are getting tooooo close to ur phones.....

[shaheen]

Hush gx32..that evil man wasnt talking about you...-strokes phone-


"my preeeecious...."

[cdover]

Hush gx32..that evil man wasnt talking about you...-strokes phone-


"my preeeecious...."

Ahh...I thought you looked like gollum.

[zalameh1]

Ahh...I thought you looked like gollum.

watch out master FRODOver, he is out to get you!!

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heeeeyy!!! others do that tooo... not fair :mad: ...


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