Nokia 7610 "does not have a modem"

[littleboy88888]

I am really upset and unhappy to tell you all that, I just found this statement in Nokia's official website:

The Nokia 7610 phone does not have a modem, but PC Suite 6.1 supports modem functionality for other compatible Nokia phones.

Oh no. When will Nokia learn to make a appearantly "all-in-one" phone? Or they just want to make a phone with only just noticable difference in order to make "more" money but actually playing fire and lossing market share and eventually loss more money.

Please Nokia learn from how T610/T630/P900 to be successful. They are top sellers in certain market segment in many markets, at least in my country.

WAKE UP, NOKIA!

[difenbaker]

hi there, would you mind giving us the link in nokia's site that says that? I cant seem to find it.

thanks.

:)

[littleboy88888]

http://www.nokia-asia.com/nokia/0,,58372,00.html

Seems that the phone will launch very soon in Asia Pacific.
And mono output + lack of modem (thus you can't let your PPC/Palm to connect the internet via 7610) showing that Nokia would really try to segment different markets. But in my opinion such methods are not effective in high-end markets if 7610 is not cheap (people buying 7610 will hope to get as much features as possible as it is not cheap, and there is competitors like GX30) and the 6-series new smartphone will not launch soon (what 6600 existing users can do now if they want to have stereo MP3 playback or a better camera? 7610? Sorry no, because its lack of modem and stereo output. 6230? Sorry no, because that is just a S40 phone and cannot fulfill their needs).

Also, a very important point, many of fashion people or youngsters (a group of people that Nokia targets to with 7610) use PDA. They like new technologies. If 7610 does not has a modem, will they buy it? The situtation is poor if even their target market is not interested/satisfied.

That's why Nokia have lost so much market shares in high-end market.

[tkao2025]

I don't get it because on the Nokia USA site it says that it does have a built in modem. Take a look at connectivity features. Specifically it says, "Modem capability via USB cable or Bluetooth wireless technology"

http://www.nokiausa.com/phones/7610/1,6980,feat:1,00.html


So does it have or have not?

[pauleylad]

Thats the 7610 off my list now. Bought an ipaq 2210 recently and was waiting for the 7610, but not now.
I think I might be going back to the Sendo X.
This has a modem doesn't it??

[aaaaa31]

Do you know what do you achieve with a modem?I doubt it.

Anyway if the phone has a modem you can use it as an external moden for your p.c with infared...Since nokia 7610 does not have infared is sure that there will be no modem in the devise.


BUT I CAN NOT UNTERSTAND WHY IT IS SO IMPORTAND FOR YOU TO HAVE A MODEM?Is there anybody there that will use the phone as a modem? No i don't think that any of u will use the phone as a modem.

And by the way...P900 has everything on it?No it doesn't where is the megapixel cam.Nokia 9500 features are just like p900 and even better.
I agree that nokia should put all-in-one phone but nobody from now on will fully equip their phones.


Even sony ericsson started to do exactly as nokia did with(7210,5100,6610,6100,6810,3100 and the other category 7250,7250i,6610i,3200)
which are the same phones with a different design.

Sony ericsson:(P800,P900/T630,T610,Z600/T68i,T200,T230,Z200...) same phones diferrent desing.

[pauleylad]

Maybe I have got it wrong but I was hoping to connect the 7610's modem via bluetooth to my Ipaq so I could use Internet Explorer and collect and send emails.
Have I got this right or do I need to more homework???

[justop26]

Originally posted by aaaaa31



BUT I CAN NOT UNTERSTAND WHY IT IS SO IMPORTAND FOR YOU TO HAVE A MODEM?Is there anybody there that will use the phone as a modem? No i don't think that any of u will use the phone as a modem.



I know that one of the reasons I'm buying a new phone this year is because I want to use my phone as a modem for my HP iPAQ h2210 wherever I am, and mostly when I'm bored and when going to the countryside. Road is also a great place to access internet!:p

So I think you can count me as wanting a phone with a modem. 7610 was the primary rival to my other option, Motorola V710. If that's the case with 7610, then it's out.

But I surely doubt that. Let's do some research.

[difenbaker]

Originally posted by tkao2025
I don't get it because on the Nokia USA site it says that it does have a built in modem. Take a look at connectivity features. Specifically it says, "Modem capability via USB cable or Bluetooth wireless technology"

http://www.nokiausa.com/phones/7610/1,6980,feat:1,00.html


So does it have or have not?

maybe the north am version of the 7610 does have a modem??

[justop26]

Originally posted by tkao2025
I don't get it because on the Nokia USA site it says that it does have a built in modem. Take a look at connectivity features. Specifically it says, "Modem capability via USB cable or Bluetooth wireless technology"

http://www.nokiausa.com/phones/7610/1,6980,feat:1,00.html


So does it have or have not?

You're absolutely correct. May you all read this quote from the Nokia USA website:

"Modem capability via USB cable or Bluetooth wireless technology"(22)
...

"(22) The Nokia 7610 phone is designed to meet Bluetooth Specification 1.1, Handsfree, Object Push Data, Generic Object Exchange, Generic Access, Dialup Networking, File Transfer, Fax and Serial Port profiles. To ensure compatibility with other Bluetooth devices, check with the device manufacturer."

The 7610 has modem capabilities included.

So, that means, that the 7610 is back into the fight with V710. At least for me, of course.

[difenbaker]

Originally posted by littleboy88888
http://www.nokia-asia.com/nokia/0,,58372,00.html

Seems that the phone will launch very soon in Asia Pacific.
And mono output + lack of modem (thus you can't let your PPC/Palm to connect the internet via 7610) showing that Nokia would really try to segment different markets. But in my opinion such methods are not effective in high-end markets if 7610 is not cheap (people buying 7610 will hope to get as much features as possible as it is not cheap, and there is competitors like GX30) and the 6-series new smartphone will not launch soon (what 6600 existing users can do now if they want to have stereo MP3 playback or a better camera? 7610? Sorry no, because its lack of modem and stereo output. 6230? Sorry no, because that is just a S40 phone and cannot fulfill their needs).

Also, a very important point, many of fashion people or youngsters (a group of people that Nokia targets to with 7610) use PDA. They like new technologies. If 7610 does not has a modem, will they buy it? The situtation is poor if even their target market is not interested/satisfied.

That's why Nokia have lost so much market shares in high-end market.

Thanks for the link.

Yup, I also think it's another big 'loss' to the 7610 - I mean, people who plan to use this to access their internet with a PDA or Notebook PC will surely be dissappointed. Especially more so when the faster speeds of EDGE is finally implented worldwide.

But still... maybe the 850mhz version will have it? Let's hope so.

cheers!

[justop26]

I don't know if you read this list, or where did you get the info, but read this:

Compatible Phones:

PC Suite 6.1 supports the following Nokia phones:
Nokia 6610i Phone
Nokia 3100 Phone2
Nokia 3200 Phone2
Nokia 5100 Phone
Nokia 5140 Phone
Nokia 6100 Phone
Nokia 6220 Phone
Nokia 6230 Phone
Nokia 6610 Phone
Nokia 6650 Phone
Nokia 6800 Phone
Nokia 6810 Messaging Device
Nokia 6820 Messaging Device
Nokia 7200 Phone
Nokia 7210 Phone
Nokia 7250 Phone
Nokia 7250i Phone
Nokia 7600 Phone
Nokia 7600i Phone
Nokia 7610 Phone
Nokia 7700 Phone
Nokia 8910i Phone3

2 Modem is not supported
3 Nokia Phone Browser and Nokia Sound Converter are not supported

Confusion down or still on?

[ipodee]

errmm on nokia.com, it wasnt specifically mentioned that it doesnt have a modem. i highly doubt it wouldn't...it's a pretty standard feature and connecting a modem via bluetooth is more efficient thean infra red which needs line of sight.

many people tend to rerad what people post in forums and completely miss the point.

[Michael]

Has anybody considered that perhaps it means that you can not use the 7610 to dial a normal data call into a land line modem?

Because it obviously has the ability to connect to GPRS data services, and since it has the Bluetooth DUN profile, you will be able to access them.

[difenbaker]

Originally posted by ipodee
errmm on nokia.com, it wasnt specifically mentioned that it doesnt have a modem.


umm.... from that link that littleboy posted: (read the bold words)

"This PC Suite includes the following language versions: English, Chinese (Simplified), Chinese (Traditional), Filipino, Indonesian, Malay and Thai.

Note: To ensure readability, install PC Suite in the same language as your PC's operating system.

With PC Suite 6.1 you can easily access your phone via PC using a Nokia Connectivity Cable DKU-2 (each sold separately). The Nokia 7610 phone does not have a modem, but PC Suite 6.1 supports modem functionality for other compatible Nokia phones."

[aaaaa31]

Come on men get real...

1)Modem has nothing to do with accesing the internet from mobile
2)Even if it has a modem the transimition will be very slooooooow because it connects with infared(7610 does not have infared).
3)If someone accute nokia that it doesn't include modem to 7610 why they did not accute the palm manufactures who they didn't include an internal modem to connect to internet with the palmtop.

[jolo]

Originally posted by justop26
I don't know if you read this list, or where did you get the info, but read this:

Compatible Phones:

PC Suite 6.1 supports the following Nokia phones:
Nokia 3100 Phone2
Nokia 3200 Phone2
Nokia 8910i Phone3

2 Modem is not supported
3 Nokia Phone Browser and Nokia Sound Converter are not supported

Confusion down or still on?

I edited yr post - notice the two phones above that end with Phone2 - these are the ones that don't have modem capabilities. The 7610 most definately does have modem capabilities.

[ipodee]

It is possible to connect the phone's modem via bluetooth to a palm or laptop.... quite obviously the palm or laptop must have BT capabilities. Tried that with hp 2210 ppc and 7600

[DEViANT]

All the Symbian phones to date have modem and Bluetooth functions so one would think the 7610 would do as well (even the N-Gage had these functions). Isn't the best thing to do just to look and examine the phone in-store?

[b dizzle fizzle]

How is the v710 a competitor for the 7610? One is CDMA 1x and one is GSM...you can't look at both phones unless you have no mobile provider right now, or want to possibly change providers.

[justop26]

Originally posted by b dizzle fizzle
How is the v710 a competitor for the 7610? One is CDMA 1x and one is GSM...you can't look at both phones unless you have no mobile provider right now, or want to possibly change providers.


I'm quite sure you're talking to me. I never said they were competitors, I said they were my options and if the 7610 didn't have a modem, which we all now know that it has, it would not be of intereste to me.

I clearly said in a personal opinion. I actually can, you know. In my country (have you ever heard of it?:p) both Networks (GSM and CDMA) are provided and we citizens are able to freely change from one provider to another, with absolutely not a problem.

I'm actually with a CDMA provider right now, but using it's TDMA network. That's why I want to update my phone.

If that was your statement, which I think I got correctly, there's my reply. Correct me if that wasn't your point, please.

Cheers.

[b dizzle fizzle]

That was an incredibly rude reply, I must say. I saw a few people say that the V710 and 7610 were competitors (not just in this thread or this forum), and I was asking how that was possible since they're not competing for the same markets. I wasn't directly commenting on your post.

As for your comment about me not knowing what Panama is, of course I do. Not all Americans are dumb, or ignorant. I'm actually Venezuelan, and lived in China, Singapore, and Hong Kong in addition to a lot of places in the US, so I have a feeling I'm even more worldly than you. I also speak 8 languages.

Now, how would anyone outside of Panama, whether they know Panama or not, know what the hell kind of crazy network situation you all have. You are with a CDMA provider who operates a TDMA network, and there are no contracts...crazy (but great for consumers). What about LNP (local number portability)?

That said, I appreciate your information filling in the issue here. I think the V710 looks like a great phone, personally, and I only wish my V600 was as good as it. I also think this Nokia has great specs, but Nokia makes some weird ass phones. Odd shapes, weird look, and always seem to be lacking on some features (like bad BT implementation). As Michael clearly pointed out, though, this phone does have GPRS modem capabilities over BT or IR, just not dial up, which I think people are really missing in their bashing of this phone. It sounds like the only valid complaint is the issue of there being no stereo sound. Personally, I don't care since I'd never replace my iPods (yes, I have more than 1) with any phone.

[justop26]

Originally posted by b dizzle fizzle
That was an incredibly rude reply, I must say. I saw a few people say that the V710 and 7610 were competitors (not just in this thread or this forum), and I was asking how that was possible since they're not competing for the same markets. I wasn't directly commenting on your post.

As for your comment about me not knowing what Panama is, of course I do. Not all Americans are dumb, or ignorant. I'm actually Venezuelan, and lived in China, Singapore, and Hong Kong in addition to a lot of places in the US, so I have a feeling I'm even more worldly than you. I also speak 8 languages.

Now, how would anyone outside of Panama, whether they know Panama or not, know what the hell kind of crazy network situation you all have. You are with a CDMA provider who operates a TDMA network, and there are no contracts...crazy (but great for consumers). What about LNP (local number portability)?

That said, I appreciate your information filling in the issue here. I think the V710 looks like a great phone, personally, and I only wish my V600 was as good as it. I also think this Nokia has great specs, but Nokia makes some weird ass phones. Odd shapes, weird look, and always seem to be lacking on some features (like bad BT implementation). As Michael clearly pointed out, though, this phone does have GPRS modem capabilities over BT or IR, just not dial up, which I think people are really missing in their bashing of this phone. It sounds like the only valid complaint is the issue of there being no stereo sound. Personally, I don't care since I'd never replace my iPods (yes, I have more than 1) with any phone.


Sorry Man, first of all I appologize if I gave the impression of being rude. I didn't want to sound like that at all. Not my intention, sorry.

I just took it with me since I seem to be the only one always talking about the V710 over here in this forum, and by the writing of your post, I though you were referring to me. Now I know you weren't.

As when saying that "(have you ever heard of it?:p)", because we're a SMALL COUNTRY and people tend not to know where we are. I was just pointing out that as a funny fact, since many people, in a worldwide forum, don't know where small countries are. Sorry, that's the perception I have received from the forums. There was a quite surprise in the Mobile-Review forums when an English friend of mine told me he knew where Panama is. I NEVER stated that Americans are dumb or ignorant. God Bless you that have traveled to a lot of places! I have just being to Costa Rica and that's it. No other travelings... Of course you're more worldly than I am! I'm 14 years old... I only speak 2 languages and learning a third, but I absolutely don't understand why did you have to comment that! Is that a fundamental thing in the post?

That's why I replied the post. To clear out what was the matter with the Networks. We do use contracts, but most people, including me, use Pre-paid Service. More consumer-oriented. Cable & Wireless operates both GSM and TDMA networks, whereas Bellsouth operates CDMA and TDMA networks. They migrated to two different technologies.

Local Number Portability only when using contracts, of course.

I also think the V710 is a great phone, and that was about time to get something about it on this site! (Thanks a lot for that SNAPSHOT Sid!!:D) It's awesome, and if it doesn't get here by the end of the year, the other "right now" options I have are the V600 and the T616. So I think I'll wait. And I also hope, and I'm almost sure of, that the 7610 gets here.

Loving the V710!:p

Cheers.

[ipodee]

hmm the phone has a modem as stated in the comparison chart and online tutorial on nokia 7610's support page on nokia.com

[Andy]

I'd be surprised if any GSM phone these days really has a modulator/demodulator for transforming anlogue sounds into digital signals and vice versa...
The meaning of the word modem is a little bit corrupted and imprecise these days.