would you pay for U$800 for a 7200???

[francisofarabia]

i can not believe it, but yes i saw some ignorant filthy rich bozo paid U$800 for a limited edition 7200....

[Mainframe AI]

hell expensive


but seroiusly it looks mad

[TheZodiac]

they are all over ebay for half that.

[francisofarabia]

i know, it sure pays to know....

[ponggie]

:eek: USD $800! thats crazy, even it's for a limited edition.. Cellphones are not like Rolex they depreciate too quickly :o

[zalameh1]

Originally posted by ponggie
:eek: USD $800! thats crazy, even it's for a limited edition.. Cellphones are not like Rolex they depreciate too quickly :o

that is tru.. ill only get this phone if it was as cheap as the 3200... i dont know why its selling for that much!!!

[eaniban]

this is another ploy from Nokia, without doubt the world's leading mobile phone manufacturer. and if you Nokia "lovers" don't budge and continue to support this company then i don't know what to do.

FYI. i have always supported Sony Ericsson all the way since i switched from Nokia 8250 to SE t68i and i have not looked back since then.

[Slimer]

Originally posted by eaniban
this is another ploy from Nokia, without doubt the world's leading mobile phone manufacturer. and if you Nokia "lovers" don't budge and continue to support this company then i don't know what to do.

FYI. i have always supported Sony Ericsson all the way since i switched from Nokia 8250 to SE t68i and i have not looked back since then.

Good for you, thats why we are talking in the NOKIA forums.

[francisofarabia]

i dont think it is nokia to be blamed here, the re-seller was the one who set the price, nokia has MSRP, but if you noticed my location, then you should know why some people here would be willing to dish out that sort of money....;)

[DEViANT]

Originally posted by ponggie
:eek: USD $800! thats crazy, even it's for a limited edition.. Cellphones are not like Rolex they depreciate too quickly :o

Limited editions do just fetch lots of money because people pay to be unique. The 'limited edition' black 8910 (not the 'i' edition which only comes in black) still commands about 20-25% more in price than the vanilla titanium coloured one.

Then again $800 USD is about £400 which is still less than some people pay for offline phones like the SE P900 and Nokia 8910i.

[ponggie]

Originally posted by DEViANT
Limited editions do just fetch lots of money because people pay to be unique. The 'limited edition' black 8910 (not the 'i' edition which only comes in black) still commands about 20-25% more in price than the vanilla titanium coloured one.


Does these limited editions have some sort of special application or features stored in the phone? If its just the white leather cover then there's nothing special about it and if they want to be "unique" because of the cover then they just as well get a n3200 and there are hundreds ways of being unique:D

[DEViANT]

I doubt there's anything new or different. The 8910 black didn't have anything special about it.

Forgive me for saying so, but the 3200 completely different phone, don't get me wrong I like what it looks like and does but it's in Nokia's 3xxx phones which targets it to the younger/teenage generation. So the average mobile phone connesseur is not going to have one, it just doesn't have 'class' like the 8910, 7200, 6230, etc.

[ponggie]

Originally posted by DEViANT
Forgive me for saying so, but the 3200 completely different phone, don't get me wrong I like what it looks like and does but it's in Nokia's 3xxx phones which targets it to the younger/teenage generation. So the average mobile phone connesseur is not going to have one, it just doesn't have 'class' like the 8910, 7200, 6230, etc.

Yeah your probably right!;) n7200 is a fashion phone, it looks nice on the outside but everytime I test it, the fashion concept disappears because of the speed is so slow and looking at its interface is just ugly especially when you set the color to brown :( it's not very aesthetically pleasing. i'm just being practical here :) "class" to me must have also have quality from the outside to the inside and not just the looks. There's no class in a crappy phone.

[phonecrazy]

I will post as a Community Service to consumers who might consider buying this furry pup, in white or any color.

Yes I own one. No, of course I didn’t pay for it with MY money. You could say it was an expense account item.

The rumor is that Nokia marketing who were assigned this monster (what did they do to piss off the marketing director!) faced with dismal orders from the major (and minor) accts, had only two options: see the phone cancelled before launch OR *spin* this as an “exclusive” *fashion* category phone to be marketed in limited numbers to maintain an air of exclusivity (and justify/explain the low ship numbers!).

Which came first: the Turkey (this “limited edition” marketing *spin*) or the Bad Egg (the dismal orders for this phone)? You figure it out. Actually, what came first was the Really Bad Egg: the design itself.

Is the rumor true that no service provider in the America's would place orders for this phone? Time will tell. Don't hold your breath waiting to see this on shelves at service providers in the USA. :-)

Take a close look at the mechanics on this phone. Pay attention to *fit* *finish* and quality of the mechanics. Is this an internally designed and mfg product? (Would an ODM actually get paid on their contract if they delivered this PoS?) If designed in-house, was the team incredibly inexperienced in clam-phone design. No comment. No comment X 2.

A 128^2 main display that is entering a market that has gone QCIF and is headed for QVGA on mid and upper tier clam main displays, and is certainly flooded with 120x160 main display clams in the low and mid-tier? A 96 x 36 external display (BLACK AND WHITE!) in a market where competitive products are 128^2 TFT or OLED's of various size? No external multicolor disco lights linked to phone events or midi tracks? VGA-only camera at this price? Flops flat when held against the ear like a dead furry puppy. No Bluetooth?

This pup is a Poster Child for What’s Wrong With Nokia / Reasons Why NOK Dropped from $24 to $14.

[zalameh1]

Originally posted by phonecrazy
I will post as a Community Service to consumers who might consider buying this furry pup, in white or any color.

Yes I own one. No, of course I didn’t pay for it with MY money. You could say it was an expense account item.

The rumor is that Nokia marketing who were assigned this monster (what did they do to piss off the marketing director!) faced with dismal orders from the major (and minor) accts, had only two options: see the phone cancelled before launch OR *spin* this as an “exclusive” *fashion* category phone to be marketed in limited numbers to maintain an air of exclusivity (and justify/explain the low ship numbers!).

Which came first: the Turkey (this “limited edition” marketing *spin*) or the Bad Egg (the dismal orders for this phone)? You figure it out. Actually, what came first was the Really Bad Egg: the design itself.

Is the rumor true that no service provider in the America's would place orders for this phone? Time will tell. Don't hold your breath waiting to see this on shelves at service providers in the USA. :-)

Take a close look at the mechanics on this phone. Pay attention to *fit* *finish* and quality of the mechanics. Is this an internally designed and mfg product? (Would an ODM actually get paid on their contract if they delivered this PoS?) If designed in-house, was the team incredibly inexperienced in clam-phone design. No comment. No comment X 2.

A 128^2 main display that is entering a market that has gone QCIF and is headed for QVGA on mid and upper tier clam main displays, and is certainly flooded with 120x160 main display clams in the low and mid-tier? A 96 x 36 external display (BLACK AND WHITE!) in a market where competitive products are 128^2 TFT or OLED's of various size? No external multicolor disco lights linked to phone events or midi tracks? VGA-only camera at this price? Flops flat when held against the ear like a dead furry puppy. No Bluetooth?

This pup is a Poster Child for What’s Wrong With Nokia / Reasons Why NOK Dropped from $24 to $14.

what r u on about man? :confused: i lost u in the first sentence!!

[DEViANT]

Originally posted by zalameh1
what r u on about man? :confused: i lost u in the first sentence!!

The man has a pretty good point if what they say is true. I'll try and cover briefly what I gleaned from it.

Nokia got poor pre-orders for this phone, so it released the white one to try and encourage people (i.e. fashion victims) to buy it and be exclusive (similar to the 8910 black edition, which I succumbed to and bought...). What was first, the 'limited edition-ness' or 'bad orders then the marketing spin to increase sales'? The bad orders came first and the reason, the phone is poor build quality either because it's not built internally by Nokia (just branded by them) or because the design team haven't designed clamshells before (there were Nokia clamshells but I think these too were contracted out)? The phone is old tech, poor screen resolution, no Bluetooth, B&W outer display, bad hinge design (actually can someone clarify if it has a stiff hinge or a flick one like Samsung and Motorolas?) so Nokia stocks dropped from $24 to $14.

phonecrazy, is that a good interpretation?

[cdover]

Originally posted by DEViANT
(actually can someone clarify if it has a stiff hinge or a flick one like Samsung and Motorolas?)

Yes it is a hinge, but it does slightly flick...if you open it quickly:D

[phonecrazy]

DEViANT : "phonecrazy, is that a good interpretation?"

Well, partly. First I qualify everything by noting please consider my comments to be shared rumors that may be completely accurate or completely nonsense. My lawyer said I better say that. :-)

If you bought one, be happy, enjoy the phone. It is unique and styling on any phone is a matter of art and completely subjective. I consider the phone's styling approach to that ironic anti-fashion approach to being fashionable. Plus it definitely has a 1970's twist to the styling, which has been hot recently with all the Austin Powers movies...etc.

Is the phone so goofy that it becomes fashionable? The answer is in the eye of the beholder.

One could argue the software features in the phone are strong, with only the lacking bluetooth as an exception.

Regarding the "limited edition" approach, one can guess Nokia is trying to generate some *buzz* of exclusivity. I was also suggesting there are political benefits to that approach, both internally and publically. If Nokia extends the approach of "limited ship volumes" to the entire 7200 series then that is a convenient story for hiding the low demand for the phone under "well there is high demand for this phone but we held the ship numbers down because that is our brilliant strategy to market this in 'limited editions.' "

The phone has an unusual hinge that apparently was designed in-house "from scratch" , as opposed to sourced off-the-shelf. I have no information on reliability. It may in fact be a very reliable hinge - time will tell.

It is not an ODM phone. Trust me on that.

I think the furry covers are kind of cool. Seriously.

[phonecrazy]

Updates:

1) Regarding the hinge, it may not be pretty but it IS strong and reliable. I have recently seen some impressive benchmarking data that proves it has reliability equal to the best clam hinges on the market.

2) Hmmmm, given the recent and dramatic price cuts on this phone, it seems Nokia has changed its marketing strategy for this phone. Now the goal is simply to prevent further loss of global market share by using its (substantial) war chest of CASH to finance giving the 7200 away.

As Jorma says, "market share is everything"

[manav]

Nice thread you have here,

Actually phonecrazy what you said is very true, Infact I had bought one some time back for 625$ I fell in love with it. Its styling was exquisite and it was classy with that cute strap and nice pouch! I think the hinge is preety good. Its not stiff it comes and stops at a position and goes back a little too and comes into perfect vertical shape and as soon as you release the pressure again comes back to the origna position _/... So like is the rates going to be as low as 3200, If yes I'd be the happiest person. I'd sell my 6230 for that! Yes I am in love with it!
Please check out my other thread titled Nokia 7200!

Manz

[Ahmad007]

Good thread and explination. But we all know the 7xxx series can't fell down in price quickly they are always in high prices specially when it get launched they put in the looks before the features. begining from 7210 to 7200. It's a fashion phone it has to look kind of cool and luxurious and unique.

Of course you won't see the 7200 in the USA cuz it's a dual-band phone.

[Ack]

Here in H.K., they had the nerve to make the 7200 more expensive than the Sharp GX-32!

Sure the Sharp is silver and the Nokia can change covers, but that would be the only advantage the Nokia has over the Sharp.

[francisofarabia]

hey ack, how is the RF on the sharp? voice quality? battery life? built?? and the OS as well??? frankly i have never used a sharp gsm phone and i want to try it, but hard to find 1 over here...

and how is the 7200 compared to sharp over those categories mentioned above??

[francisofarabia]

Originally posted by phonecrazy
I will post as a Community Service to consumers who might consider buying this furry pup, in white or any color.

Yes I own one. No, of course I didn’t pay for it with MY money. You could say it was an expense account item......

Is the rumor true that no service provider in the America's would place orders for this phone? Time will tell. Don't hold your breath waiting to see this on shelves at service providers in the USA. :-)




well, it will not reach the american soil, since it will not work there- it is a dual band gsm phone, designed for the european and asian market (m not saying the americans are not fashionable...:p ) for the the american soil there is the 6255, see this thread (http://forums.mobileburn.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2350) for info

[Ack]

I've only played with it at the Smartone shop. So I can't tell you much about it. Search for the GX-32 in the forums and some guys give their 2 cents.

The screen is great, just like a computer LCD, and its huge. It was hard for me to go thru the menu since it was in Chinese, but it was pretty quick.

The keys felt good and it seemed a little heavy, but I have a t68i so maybe that's why. Its about 4600 HKD now I think.

[francisofarabia]

so, how can you say that the removable and fashionable phone cover is the only thing going for the 7200 over the gx-32, when you never really used it??? dont tell me because of the specs??? well, the gx specs is great allright, but as you know there are other stuffs that goes in the phone why it is selected... the RF, bat life, and voice quality are some of the few that makes a deciding factor... :confused:

[Ack]

True, but most mobile phones are generally equal when it comes to all of those factors you mentioned.

In H.K. at least, one doesn't have to worry about RF because your phone will work anywhere (7 operators and repeaters in the tunnels). Even with my t68i which supposedly has bad RF, I don't think I've had a dropped call since I've been here (9 months).

If it was between Nokia and some unknown manufacturer like Bird or Prince, I would probably go for the Nokia because of the confidence level. So Sharp vs. Nokia, you pick the phone that has the features you want and you don't have to worry about the quality.

[manav]

Is the SHAPRP a gsm?

[Ack]

Sharp is a quad-band GSM.

[francisofarabia]

Originally posted by Ack
True, but most mobile phones are generally equal when it comes to all of those factors you mentioned.


no way, i cant agree with u on that....

[manav]

What are the GX-30's USP's???