+ THOUGHT: Symbian S60 vs. Windows Mobile

[Apocalypso]

Smartphone OS Battle: Symbian S60 vs. Windows Mobile

http://www.symbian-freak.com/images/news/06/11/articletm.jpg (http://www.symbian-freak.com/news/006/11/s60_vs_wmse.htm)

Here's an nice article I've just found over the "the::unwired", actually its more like comparison review between the two mobile platforms with non touch-screen interfaces, Symbian S60 3rd edition and Windows Mobile Smartphone edition.

Alfredo Padilla’s comparison is quite interesting and definitely has some very valid points indeed and therefore it definitely worth reading.

Although I have to say that overview isn’t quite objective in my personal opinion, perhaps just because it is written from one long-standing Windows Mobil.. ..

Read more:
http://www.symbian-freak.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_arrow.gif S60 vs. Windows Mobile - full story (http://www.symbian-freak.com/news/006/11/s60_vs_wmse.htm)
http://www.symbian-freak.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_arrow.gif www.symbian-freak.com (http://www.symbian-freak.com/) - Your Ultimate Symbian Destination

Sincerely yours,
Apoc

[chokia]

On a similar note, another Symbian bashing article by well who else if not MSmobile http://msmobiles.com/news.php/5721.html

and got backfired in the comment section

I have a Nokia e61 with Route 66. It works extremely well. Also the E61 not only comes with voip support on the phone rom but also some basic gps software. My e61 chugs along running route 61 or Navicom very well and unlike most windows mobiles phones with such software running does not crash or drain the battery in an hour.

This symbian bashing with nothing more than I hate symbian without any real reasoning makes you look foolish. You do nothing more than trying to point out what windows mobile can do that sybain can't when the reality is nokia phones have wifi, have or support voip have server configuration software, support all forms of push email. The reality you completely ignore however is how poor windows mobile is in regard to reliabilty and battery life. These are the real concerns for business smartphone users and are issues blackberry and nokia etc are trying to improve.

[TheZodiac]

I dont know - Im a Windows PC user, but I could never get into the Mobile crap they put out. I like Symbian and enjoy my E70 (still transitioning, though) I just think most windows phones look like they came from the same sh*t farm.

[Apocalypso]

To be honest I still didn’t read whole article, I have to live something for tomorrow, but something caught my attention.

You see, its hard to believe that WMSE doesn’t has something like pencil key which allows simple copy/paste actions or even worse, I was shocked with fact that it doesn’t support multitasking, at least its impossible to easy switch among active applications as on S60 platform, I just can’t imagine my phone without real support for multitasking ?

Have a nice and long weekend,

CU all,
Teo

[zalameh1]

nice article!! i always thought WindowsMobile was miles better than Symbian.. thats obviously not the case..

[TheZodiac]

Speaking of cut&paste (Apocalypso) how would I cut and paste on my S60 3e (e70) I have been looking for that bit of information here and there - havent come accross it yet.

[Shun]

Windows Mobile does support multitasking... judging an OS multitasking support by the ability to switch among active application is simply illogical.

To switch among active application in WM Smartphones, only 1 more keypress is needed as compare to S60, just press HOME and then the task manager shortcut key.

Copy and paste is the missing feature in WM Smartphones, however, there is a freeware to achive it.

By taking advantage of the numbered menu listing and the 99 user assignable shortcut keys, I was much more efficient with the WM Smartphone (O2 XPhone) then the S60 (Nokia 6670).

[Apocalypso]

Speaking of cut&paste (Apocalypso) how would I cut and paste on my S60 3e (e70) I have been looking for that bit of information here and there - havent come accross it yet.
With pencil key of course, hold down pencil key and select necessary txt in any editor, contacts, numbers, etc, than hit pencil once again and choose copy, cut, paste, and other text orientated options.

Ist the really powerful tool in combination with multitasking. For example you can open txt editor and than switch to phonebook, copy some details than simply switch back to editor from active task list and paste copied information.

Pencil is also quite useful for marking.. ..

[TheZodiac]

With pencil key of course, hold down pencil key and select necessary txt in any editor, contacts, numbers, etc, than hit pencil once again and choose copy, cut, paste, and other text orientated options.

Ist the really powerful tool in combination with multitasking. For example you can open txt editor and than switch to phonebook, copy some details than simply switch back to editor from active task list and paste copied information.

Pencil is also quite useful for marking.. ..

Awesome - I was trying to use the pencil, butr I believe I wasnt in am editing field - thats what did it. Thanks!

[Apocalypso]

NP; I'm just happy to help ;)

Cheers,
Teo

[Diji1]

I own S60 device & use Windows Mobile 5 on a Pocket PC Phone Edition (MDA Pro), not Smartphone.

Perhaps I'm wrong but it seems to me that there is much more software written for WM. Also WM5, bearing in mind that I'm a fairly new S60 user, seems to be much more able to be hacked or configured to tailor the interface individually. The criticisms people level against WM in this thread can all be "fixed" using either 3rd party applications or registry hacking.

However, I think S60 looks rather glorious :) - but WM5 clearly seems more powerful to me.

I think it's a little pointless comparing the two OS actually - are there any devices that can run both Windows Mobile & Symbian? If not why compare... just my opinion anyhow.

[phoney]

symbian s60 v2 has more apps available then wm5.

[DarkElf]

series 60 would be the winner.

[Diji1]

More applications. Really?... I could care either way, and I don't want to get into an arguement that involves OS bashing. As I say, I own both types of devices, they both have their definite strengths and weaknesses.

Handango lists 21,000+ WM applications. Last time I looked the S60 applications numbered in the hundreds. Granted this isn't the whole Symbian compatible software list by any means, but still.

Edit: I must stress that this is my opinion and I'm by no means an expert on Symbian applications as I'm new to Symbian... caveat emptor or whatever that saying is OK.

[chokia]

There are active discussion in Mobile-review regarding

1. Next Series60 4rd Edition will have full Touchscreen support in the devices. Nokia is waiting for the implementation before there is real demand from the market.

2. Nokia will use Window Mobile in their devices in 2007 to extend their portfolio even more with Touch screen devices running on windows.

Source : http://forum2.mobile-review.com/showthread.php?t=56601

[francisofarabia]

the S60 TS has been announced by Nokia in a press release since like 2 years now if i am not mistaken, including the S60 comie


nokia using WM is something i have also recently heard, but not through M-R... but this one is still speculations, but yes everything is possible, i'm just not enthusiastic about it...

and that article above is also pathetic...

[Diji1]

Thanks for that chokia, interesting read.

If this speculation turns out to be correct I think it is a good decision by Nokia - in light of the number of applications available. Myself speaking here...

The reason I bought up the issue of devices before is because I think it's like comparing apples and oranges... Only, speaking for myself, to me the oranges taste the same as the apples. Much like Windows, there is much whinging... but compared to everything else, there's just not a viable alternative. I might think this is a shame, however the average user just wants to be able to _use_ the thing easily (without having much technical knowledge at all) and have a large range of applications available. OS live and die pretty much on available software I believe - if you're talking of mass appeal.

Hmmm, I like this forum... it's cool ;)