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DarkElf
06-07-2006, 02:35 AM
the UIQ operated phone has been officially availabe since 3-4 days and still no thread about it yet!? guess no one at all is interested in it/...
page3
06-07-2006, 02:48 AM
the UIQ operated phone has been officially availabe since 3-4 days and still no thread about it yet!? guess no one at all is interested in it/...
Very VERY interested, but still not available in the UK :(
ninjabear
06-07-2006, 10:53 AM
It just came out in Hong kong for about a week now but its parallel imported not official Hong kong Stock.
It was around $5000HK or maybe I was wrong.
Cant remember the price but it is released
Boasy
06-07-2006, 02:23 PM
Such a pity that kinda nu stuff never gets released in Jamaica until I ask a friend to get one for me abroad!!!
Boasy
06-07-2006, 02:24 PM
Am very interested in it but waitin 4 the p990 still!!!
I just got an email from Michael (while on vacation, no less) saying that he will be getting an M600 on Monday - so that will be added to the pile of reviews that we have to get out.
Oh jeez.
I'm going to buy one. Does anyone know a firm (or even approximate) date on the W950i? The Walkman version of the M600?
lloydo
06-08-2006, 12:34 AM
I like the way S-E have built the framework and base two differently-targeted phones from it (W950i with large capacity for music and M600i for business applications).
If the cameras on compact phones continue to be as virtually useless as they are now, they may as well be left off. :)
The funny thing is, the w950 can support all the business apps that the m600 can, but the m600 can't use the walkman program to organize music.
Boasy
06-08-2006, 01:42 PM
The funny thing is, the w950 can support all the business apps that the m600 can, but the m600 can't use the walkman program to organize music.
Is that a fact? Wat about on the p990?
MikeUK
06-08-2006, 02:06 PM
Is that a fact? Wat about on the p990?
Well seeing as it's UIQ there is always the option for third party software. You may end up being able to get a music app for M600 that's on par with W950i, but either way you still won't have that 4GB hd.
Well seeing as it's UIQ there is always the option for third party software. You may end up being able to get a music app for M600 that's on par with W950i, but either way you still won't have that 4GB hd.
Exactly. And the awesome keypad. Man, the W950's keypad rocks.
Boasy
06-08-2006, 04:27 PM
hey guys, we have the m600. check out puremobile(dot)com.
I'd like to know if the P990 and the M600 can use the Walkman App from the W950?
DarkElf
06-08-2006, 04:53 PM
yeah...thou its quite temptig...to me its just a sign of the "soon-arival-of-p990":P
I'm pretty sure that you can't use the walkman app from the w950. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that SE would wanna keep those markets separate.
But the argument could also be made that since they have different capacities and different styling, the app being on both wouldn't have a negative effect on the w950's sales.
I'll be able to tell for sure when I get my M600.
Thai is right, you can't use the Walkman app on a non-Walkman phone.
hotzigetty
06-09-2006, 01:23 AM
I thought the w950 had a normal numeric keypad..
It does. Just not the normal interface for the numeric keyboard.
It's there, but in touch-sensitive form.
ninjabear
06-09-2006, 08:24 AM
Is the M600 Symbian mobile similar to N70 symbian mobile?
They have identical and using symbian so i was wondering if they are similar apart from no camera?
MikeUK
06-09-2006, 10:09 AM
Is the M600 Symbian mobile similar to N70 symbian mobile?
They have identical and using symbian so i was wondering if they are similar apart from no camera?
No they are actually quite different as far as I'm aware, but I'm not 100% sure.
N70 uses S60 as an operating system whereas M600 uses UIQ, the biggest and most obvious difference is UIQ is for touchscreen devices and S60 is not. I do not think applications can simply go across platforms.
hotzigetty
06-09-2006, 11:52 AM
nope u cant use s60 software in uiq devices..
No they are actually quite different as far as I'm aware, but I'm not 100% sure.
N70 uses S60 as an operating system whereas M600 uses UIQ, the biggest and most obvious difference is UIQ is for touchscreen devices and S60 is not. I do not think applications can simply go across platforms.
Its just semantics, but Symbian is actually the operating system, S60 and UIQ are user interfaces. Its like Gnome and KDE in the Linux community.
Boasy
06-09-2006, 09:10 PM
I really cant c no real reason y a uiq3 app can b instald on a w950 & not a P990 as screen resolution & majority of othr stuff r identical & am pretty sure dat all 3 uiq 3 fones 2 date were made 2 use the same apps. Jus dat we dont YET see an installation file for the walkman app. Wat if SE decided 2 create the app as a download & wasnt there a program for uiq 2.x that cud send instald apps?
I really cant c no real reason y a uiq3 app can b instald on a w950 & not a P990 as screen resolution & majority of othr stuff r identical & am pretty sure dat all 3 uiq 3 fones 2 date were made 2 use the same apps. Jus dat we dont YET see an installation file for the walkman app. Wat if SE decided 2 create the app as a download & wasnt there a program for uiq 2.x that cud send instald apps?
If SE decided to produce it as an installable program, it could be used on the M600 for sure. Trouble is it is built into the firmware at the moment for this exact reason.
hotzigetty
06-09-2006, 11:48 PM
will the w950 be able to use blackberry connect and all???
DarkElf
06-10-2006, 02:09 AM
@brad
OR if someone other than SE plans to hack it and make it usable for the non walkmen :D thats possible isnt it?
another thing...if software from the walkman brand cant be used on non-walkman phones.., then how come is it possible to convert a k750 into a W800?!?
@brad
OR if someone other than SE plans to hack it and make it usable for the non walkmen :D thats possible isnt it?
another thing...if software from the walkman brand cant be used on non-walkman phones.., then how come is it possible to convert a k750 into a W800?!?
I meant that the Walkman application is in the firmware, and hence can't be used on non-walkman handsets. You can convert a K750 to a W800 because you are loading it with the firmware from the W800, not just installing the Walkman application. This probably wouldn't be possible with the M600/W950, as the W950 doesn't have a keyboard, so you would probably loose the use of your keys.
I guess it would be possible for some bright spark to rip the Walkman app out of the W950 and code it into the M600's firmware, but it would be a big task. Anything is possible though.
Boasy
06-10-2006, 09:07 AM
Well 4 now am holdin my breath & keepin ma fingers crossed but I think more than likely It wil bcome available. In any event tho, am sure some 3rd Party Developer wil create either a walkman app or look-alike with (maybe) more advanced features!!!
Boasy
06-10-2006, 09:10 AM
Btw, I always thought the UIQ wasnt finished & dats y the P990 was bn delayed. Doesnt the release of the M600 mean the P990 shud be available soon?
Btw, I always thought the UIQ wasnt finished & dats y the P990 was bn delayed. Doesnt the release of the M600 mean the P990 shud be available soon?
They were having trouble with the new version of UIQ, but I believe that the issues are all but worked out now. The P990's delay was extended because SE switched focus to the M600 and W950. I have seen and used a working and seemingly bug free P990 though, so it won't be too long I would imagine.
crazyze
06-11-2006, 05:00 AM
They were having trouble with the new version of UIQ, but I believe that the issues are all but worked out now. The P990's delay was extended because SE switched focus to the M600 and W950. I have seen and used a working and seemingly bug free P990 though, so it won't be too long I would imagine.
Does the P990 still feel like an excellent phone or have SE missed the boat with the P990. I mean the delays have been phenomenal!
DarkElf
06-11-2006, 05:48 AM
i guess the p990 would only be released after the release of W950,
so i presume that its still atleast a month away:(
Does the P990 still feel like an excellent phone or have SE missed the boat with the P990. I mean the delays have been phenomenal!
I would like to see the inclusion of 802.11g instead of just b before launch, but it is still a relatively competitive handset. While it is rather bulky, it has the same RAM and connectivity options (sans 802.11g that is) as the newer E61 I'm using at the moment, plus it has the benefit of video calling and a 2.0 megapixel camera. Provided it is priced reasonably, I think it will still do alright for lovers of the P-series.
I thought the W950 was getting released in August or September? If so, then the P990 wouldn't come out till the end of Q3.
The M600 wasn't designed for the Walkman app, nor would SE want it on there. And hacking it would just be a waste since you'd lose all the M600 specific apps and tricks that SE made.
Now if someone could hack the app to run across all compatible non-walkman phones... That would be tasty.
Jonte
06-12-2006, 07:19 AM
I have ordered a M600 now, hopefully I get it tomorrow or wensday :)
DarkElf
06-12-2006, 04:50 PM
@Jonte
Grool!! :D
waise, do post a mini review if u get the time mate. peace.
KeepItClean
06-13-2006, 09:36 AM
The owner of www.wirelessimports.com said he will be recieving the p990i WITHIN 3 months. He said he KNOWS this. Thought id share this tidbit of insider info, although who knows how accurate it will be.
crazyze
06-13-2006, 09:39 AM
The owner of www.wirelessimports.com said he will be recieving the p990i WITHIN 3 months. He said he KNOWS this. Thought id share this tidbit of insider info, although who knows how accurate it will be.
3 months puts the p990 in late August/Early September, I think that is when most people feared the phone would come out.
KeepItClean
06-13-2006, 09:45 AM
Yeah, well, it is what it is. And the camera on the p990 (which will be similar if not identical to that of the w900i and k750i) is better than any other QWERTY communicator out there IMPO, and it looks kewl. im picking one up instead of nokia E61 or moto q.
i know its what we feared, but at least now our fears our confirmed and we can set a date. :D
Boasy
06-13-2006, 04:25 PM
p990 needs an overall remake. Its just too bulky and ugly!!!
jayesh
06-13-2006, 04:34 PM
the m600 is out here in india at 21250 ... i checked it out slim handset and decent build.. the qwerty keypad is the new style fairly quick learning curve..
i was not able to explore it to my hearts content though lets see once it gets into the labs
jayesh
06-13-2006, 04:37 PM
I would like to see the inclusion of 802.11g instead of just b before launch, but it is still a relatively competitive handset. While it is rather bulky, it has the same RAM and connectivity options (sans 802.11g that is) as the newer E61 I'm using at the moment, plus it has the benefit of video calling and a 2.0 megapixel camera. Provided it is priced reasonably, I think it will still do alright for lovers of the P-series.
though ive not used a p9x fone for ages... i expect p990 will do really well .. for one in smartphones it inherits the very decent w800/k750i cam ( correct me if m wrong here ) 802.g would have been great but not a necessity as most internet connections are not that fast ( home ones atleast ) to be able to even reach the full available capability of a 802.b bandwidth.
Rest it will ship with a great battery ( p9x had great battery life and good talk time ) .
Lets see how the new uiq pans out.. its based on the 9.1 symbian platform too so app support will be broken for a while.
is m600i officially released in india?
Jonte
06-14-2006, 05:35 AM
Now I have my M600. Here is my very minireview.
It is quite small. It going to replace both my K500i and my Palm Zire 71. So I will have plenty more free space in my pockets now.
It's a little slow, mostly at start up. (It just hung up when I ended a call...)
Browsing the menues has ok speed, but it could be faster.
I like the keybord, sure it's going to take some time to get up speed but I like it. No problem pressing the wrong side of the buttom.
I have sync it with outlook, working fine. Transfered files from computer thru USBcalbe also working fine.
The manual say that it should be able to play real media files, but when I tryed that it didnt work.
Mp3 player is working fine.
If there is any question just ask. But I'm going away until sunday or monday so I wont be able to reply until then.
hotzigetty
06-14-2006, 05:45 AM
@n90 no the m600 isnt out as yet.,..
jayesh
06-14-2006, 10:19 AM
hotzigetty do u ever bother reading posts :p its out dude @ Rs 21250 around 23k officially
hotzigetty
06-14-2006, 10:25 AM
really?? awesome!!
whats maximum resolution it can decode videos in?
FullMetalKid
06-15-2006, 10:51 PM
What can the phone actually do? I don't know much about it and can't seem to find good info on it as well. Thanks everyone
DarkElf
06-16-2006, 01:59 AM
well...its a symbian UIQ phone...it can do what a p910 could do and a lot more....granted that able software is released soon..
FullMetalKid
06-21-2006, 01:57 PM
Do you think i should get one? I am waiting on the p990 and if not i'll be forced to use a treo given to me by work. Thanks for the help
KeepItClean
06-21-2006, 02:18 PM
Im waiting for one still, and ive passed up the nokia e61, treo, etc, as replacements. For business i still use my blackberry, but that will soon change when p990i hits shelves.
IMPO wait if you can, if you cant because of your business or personal life, get a replacement like an old blackberry for cheap (100 bucks us) and voila.
My sources say 3 more months...even if its 4 im still waiting.
yes, its bulky, but if tis anything like the 910 im all over it.
jayesh
06-21-2006, 11:03 PM
Do you think i should get one? I am waiting on the p990 and if not i'll be forced to use a treo given to me by work. Thanks for the help
stick to the treo. m600i has a lot of problems that will need fixing. There have been a lot of complaints about the device and ive personally checked it out... its lags a lot is not really one hand friendly like the e61 ( brilliant device )
There is some other stuff i can list out if u like it
I was using one not five minutes ago, and it wasn't laggy at all. When, and in what capacity did you use one? I tend to agree with the one-handedness though, although the virtual softkeys are surprisingly easy to press one-handed. We have one coming to MB HQ soon, so I guess we will know all the deets after Big M puts it through its paces.
DarkElf
06-22-2006, 06:39 AM
id wait for the p990 if i were u...infact im actually waiting for it...like 'Keepitclean' said "if its anything like the P910.." hell ill wait a few more months...
FullMetalKid
06-22-2006, 09:44 AM
Im waiting for one still, and ive passed up the nokia e61, treo, etc, as replacements. For business i still use my blackberry, but that will soon change when p990i hits shelves.
IMPO wait if you can, if you cant because of your business or personal life, get a replacement like an old blackberry for cheap (100 bucks us) and voila.
My sources say 3 more months...even if its 4 im still waiting.
yes, its bulky, but if tis anything like the 910 im all over it.
Thanks again everyone for the feedback. I suppose i'll wait for the p990 but at the same time see if after the big review and determine if i would want one. I do have a blackberry but i hate the thing.
jayesh
06-22-2006, 10:24 AM
I was using one not five minutes ago, and it wasn't laggy at all. When, and in what capacity did you use one? I tend to agree with the one-handedness though, although the virtual softkeys are surprisingly easy to press one-handed. We have one coming to MB HQ soon, so I guess we will know all the deets after Big M puts it through its paces.
capacity .. as a customer testing in a shop brad..
as for usability diff people will employ diff parameters for that. One reason i have e61 is due to its ease of use and the fairly seamless operation with exchange.
the same on m600 is a bit of a doozy and often refuses to sync or plain just goes to sleep. Another time it hung on me and would not ring until i restarted it.
It would often drop my bt headset connection ( old one jabra bt250 ) and only way to get it to re-connect was to restart the phone.
Reception wise also it was a little poor .. my work area has a few fringe spots where signal is weak. here n80 and e61 can easily hold 2 bars where as se was searching for network
FullMetalKid
06-22-2006, 06:52 PM
Sounds pretty horrible. But i live in the city and i don't feel that it could be that bad. Though one way to find out would be to try one. But of course that would mean getting one or hoping someone i see on the street use one.
jayesh
06-22-2006, 11:42 PM
umm what does you living in a city have to do with anything? not like i live in a rural village somewhere LOL .. coverage here is pretty much blanket with almost no drop offs. work area where there are fringe spots is a room that is virtually underground heh hence the loss in signal
sanjoy316
06-23-2006, 01:50 AM
the m600i is available or 20100 here in mumbai india and the e61 is available for 17500 am in a dilemma as to which to buy but looks like as the e61 is recd awesome reviews everywhee will go fo it and also the add on of a wifi and 16milliion color screen one of the best ever...only if m600i had wifi
jayesh
06-23-2006, 09:51 PM
sanjoy316 try using a full stop next time :p your entire post sounded like a breathless rant
jayesh
06-23-2006, 09:52 PM
e61 for 17.5k ?
seems to be right the price.. unoffical prices are even lower around 16k
thts great considering n80 for almost 10k more for the camera only.
sanjoy316
06-24-2006, 01:38 AM
sanjoy316 try using a full stop next time :p your entire post sounded like a breathless rant
point noted jayeshh... hehe
the n80 is not 10k more than the e61 its about 6.5 to 7 k more ... yeah the e61 price is really tempting kudos to nokia
so price of n80 fallen? last seen was 28k .
DarkElf
06-24-2006, 12:39 PM
do they have sufficient software suport for the e61 yet?
do they have sufficient software suport for the e61 yet?
It is still slim pickings, but it is getting there. I've got pretty much everything I need installed, short of Agile Messenger, which is in beta for v3 at the moment, but just doesn't like the E61.
the same on m600 is a bit of a doozy and often refuses to sync or plain just goes to sleep. Another time it hung on me and would not ring until i restarted it.
It would often drop my bt headset connection ( old one jabra bt250 ) and only way to get it to re-connect was to restart the phone.
Reception wise also it was a little poor .. my work area has a few fringe spots where signal is weak. here n80 and e61 can easily hold 2 bars where as se was searching for network
When I first got my M600 it was kinda laggy. But after a few days, it seemingly got its bearing and became pretty speedy. Interesting, but true.
My bluetooth refuses to drop, even when I fully expect it to. I use it as a bluetooth modem (while I charge it), and went to sleep figuring that it would automatically disconnect like my P910 or T610 or K750. I woke up the next day with it being connected for well over ten hours. I also have a SE HBH-660 and a Jabra BT800. Both have never had problem with dropping.
Signal is terrific, but T-Mobile has pretty good coverage where I'm at.
The only complaint I have is that the sound is a bit weak. Speakerphone too. But the multiple input methods and landscape net browsing is a godsend.
It's not a shabby phone, does pretty good music through headphones.
I would definitely recommend it, unless you absolutely need to have camera or wi-fi.
FullMetalKid
06-26-2006, 11:26 PM
Like warming up a car right..........lol!!! I do hope the p990 comes out soon.
goodguy
06-29-2006, 04:52 PM
i'm very interested in the m600. i have been using s60 devices for the last few years and don't have experience with UIQ. camera and wi fi are not important. i want something that is easily customized like s60 and has ability for apps and games. is UIQ as easy to use as s60? and are apps,themes,games and so on as easy to get as with s60?
any input would be very appreciated.
thanks.
Jonte
07-01-2006, 12:20 AM
Any one know how long time does it take to uppdate the M600? The program on the computer say "Uppdaterar programvaran" = "Uppdating firmvare" and it has done that for 8 hours now... The green bar filled up fast and then nothing happens.
Arne Anka
07-01-2006, 08:52 AM
Depending on your internet connection, it should not take more than a couple of minutes (say 15-20 min perhaps). I suggest you restart your update.
i'm very interested in the m600. i have been using s60 devices for the last few years and don't have experience with UIQ. camera and wi fi are not important. i want something that is easily customized like s60 and has ability for apps and games. is UIQ as easy to use as s60? and are apps,themes,games and so on as easy to get as with s60?
any input would be very appreciated.
thanks.
It's very easy to use, and customizeable. Easier to use, I dare say, especially because of the touchscreen. My 6680 has nothing on this phone. Except camera, but the camera on the 6680 is nothing to brag about either...
The problem is that there aren't too many apps out there right now. Hopefully a lot more fun ones will pop up soon. Like a Walkman app clone.
DarkElf
07-02-2006, 01:35 PM
sure apps would pore out soon... an yes its easier then anything...
goodguy
07-03-2006, 11:54 AM
It's very easy to use, and customizeable. Easier to use, I dare say, especially because of the touchscreen. My 6680 has nothing on this phone. Except camera, but the camera on the 6680 is nothing to brag about either...
The problem is that there aren't too many apps out there right now. Hopefully a lot more fun ones will pop up soon. Like a Walkman app clone.
thanks..... any suggestions on websites to find some apps? i'm pretty convinced i'm getting the m600i. i appreciate your help.
All the usual symbian sites would be the places to look. The next few months should be good to us M600 users.
goodguy
07-07-2006, 08:27 PM
does the m600i have speaker independent voice dialing? if it does i'm sold. been reading alot about it on other forums and seems like a real solid phone. thanks
You have to make a magic word first.
For a contact, you have to record the phrase first.
Example, Say Call (the magic word), then say Adam Smadam (the prerecorded phrase for your contact, Adam).
Works just like the P910.
goodguy
07-10-2006, 11:16 AM
thats to bad. i was hoping for digit dial, etc. still am interested in the phone though. price is starting to come down. still thinking about it. thanks for your help thai.
thats to bad. i was hoping for digit dial, etc. still am interested in the phone though. price is starting to come down. still thinking about it. thanks for your help thai.
No prob.
Yeah, digit dialing doesn't exist on it.
Well worth the money.
goodguy
07-14-2006, 01:07 PM
i think i'm gonna hold out for the n73. should be available soon. and is more familiar to me being a s60 device. carl zeis lense doesn't hurt either.
thanks for your input thai
Sure, no prob.
The CZ lens is low grade though, so I hope it isn't the selling point of the phone for you.
But the N73 does look nice. Maybe I'll pick one up to upgrade from my 6680.
goodguy
07-19-2006, 01:01 PM
actually the phone is attractive to me for a few reasons
s60 which i am very familiar with
decent look and hopefully a good feel
and joystick for moving around in the menus and so on.
the 6600 is my favorite s60 device because of the joystick and in hand feel and the n73 appears to have a similar layout. i would probably say the joystick is what has sold me on this phone and is the reason why i didn't get an n80.
does anyone know if the n73 has speaker independent voice dialing?
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