Nokia 6230, some unanswered questions

[##RaCeR##]

The other Nokia 6230 thread is utter chaos and too hard to follow.

I just have a few unanswered questions (from what I can gather at the other thread). I know the phone is pre-release and some answers may not be known yet but any info would be great.

1. This phone is MPEG4 compatible right? If so, does that mean you could watch regular MPEGs downloaded off the net (or convert them to the correct file type using a program like TPMGEnc? Would it automatically scale videos (like 320x280 to the correct res of 128x128?)

2. The mp3 digital music player - is there a kbps limit that it can read (could it read up to CD quality of 320kbps? Maybe limit of 128 or 129?)

3. Any word if its also SD compatible (cards are essentially the same). Most digital camera's can use both.

4. Whats the quality of the stereo headset like? My dad has a 7250i and listening to the radio with them is actually really good. I would expect mp3 playback to be even better?

5. Does the digital music player software allow for playlists etc? Or, does it just play each file in alphabetical order? Does it have features like repeat, random etc?

6. What exactly is TFT? Is TFT different to what is used on the 7250i?

7. How much do you guys reckon it'll retail for? My guess is US$500? It would surely be less then the 6600?

Thanks. I am really exctited about this phone, as it does everything I need it to. I was going to buy an mp3 mini disc player, but thought what the hell may as well get a new phone and mp3 player in one.

[Cyberdog]

Ok from what i know i'll try and answer your questions:

1. I believe it has to be in .3gp format to play, its not like smartphones that can play real media as well, so i dont think you could play MPEGs or DivX or anything like that.

2. I think i read somewhere that the limit is 128kbps, but you can convert music to AAC I think its called, and the files are smaller and supposedly still very good quality, so you can fit more on.

3. Its not SD card compaitble, since I believe SD cards have an extra connection Pin so there's no way you could use them. If a device is made for SD cards it can use MMC cards, but not the other way round :(

4. Quality is supposedly very good, but i dont know for sure, i'd be surprised if it wasn't.

5. I dont think it will have playlists, but perhaps i'm wrong. If it doesnt, it may be possible to get a third party program to make playlists.

6. From what I know TFT is the kind of screen used in laptops and flat pannel monitors and has very high quality images. Its far better than the screen of the 7250i and supports 65K colours, as opposed to 4096 on the 7250i.

7. Just Talk (http://www.just-talk.com/phone_det.php?phoneID=189) says it will retail for US$599, however somewhere else i've seen $500 i cant remember. However since the Aust/US exchange rate is so good now, i wonder if it will come out cheaper here or would it be better to buy from america...

[##RaCeR##]

I am planning on buying it from http://www.expansys.com.au/product.asp?code=108417

yes, hopefully the amazing $AU will keep the price down.

Does MPEG4 = 3GP?

Are there file encoding programs that can convert movies/videos into 3GP format? That'd be awesome to be able to watch ripped movies on your phone, even if it is pretty small.

[The Edge]

Man if that's all it'll cost I'll be stoked! That means I could pick it up here for around $900! The sooner this phone is launched the better! :)

[ipodee]

1. Yes, conversion to .3gp needed, no direct mpeg4 compatibility

2. Yes AAC files encoded at Mobile-optimised format by the Nokia Audio Manager compresses a 3 min song to about 1.5mb but sound quality is suprisingly crisp and clear wif good bass aided by the fashion earphones for Nokia 7600. I think AAC files are better than mp3 files.

3. Nokia has only opted for MMC compatibility so far, but will be a matter of time it will support SD cards. Though it's true in the past that if a device supports SD cards, it will for MMC too. But that's not always the case now, Nikon Coolpix 3700 uses SD cards but is not compatible with MMC.

4. I dunno about 7250i but the fasion headset included in 7600 is by far the best from Nokia I have come across as already mentioned above. The musc sounds flawless and not hollow.

5. I am talking from 7600's perspective here. There appears to be a playlist of sorts but havent figured out a way to handle it. For now, it's alphabetical order play. Random play is possible.

6. TFT = thin film transistor
A display screen made with TFT (thin-film transistor) technology is a liquid crystal display (LCD), common in notebook and laptop computers, that has a transistor for each pixel (that is, for each of the tiny elements that control the illumination of your display). Having a transistor at each pixel means that the current that triggers pixel illumination can be smaller and therefore can be switched on and off more quickly. Aka actie matrix display


OLED (organic light emitting diode) will be the next wave in mobile device screens as it's supposed to be thinner and consumes less power than LCD as they require no backlighting. Only prob is they havent figured how to make it in large sizes, so u only find it on the small external screens of some handphones (Samsung , Panasonic)

7. US$450-500

Originally posted by Cyberdog
Ok from what i know i'll try and answer your questions:

1. I believe it has to be in .3gp format to play, its not like smartphones that can play real media as well, so i dont think you could play MPEGs or DivX or anything like that.

2. I think i read somewhere that the limit is 128kbps, but you can convert music to AAC I think its called, and the files are smaller and supposedly still very good quality, so you can fit more on.

3. Its not SD card compaitble, since I believe SD cards have an extra connection Pin so there's no way you could use them. If a device is made for SD cards it can use MMC cards, but not the other way round :(

4. Quality is supposedly very good, but i dont know for sure, i'd be surprised if it wasn't.

5. I dont think it will have playlists, but perhaps i'm wrong. If it doesnt, it may be possible to get a third party program to make playlists.

6. From what I know TFT is the kind of screen used in laptops and flat pannel monitors and has very high quality images. Its far better than the screen of the 7250i and supports 65K colours, as opposed to 4096 on the 7250i.

7. Just Talk (http://www.just-talk.com/phone_det.php?phoneID=189) says it will retail for US$599, however somewhere else i've seen $500 i cant remember. However since the Aust/US exchange rate is so good now, i wonder if it will come out cheaper here or would it be better to buy from america...

[Enjay]

Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
Are there file encoding programs that can convert movies/videos into 3GP format? That'd be awesome to be able to watch ripped movies on your phone, even if it is pretty small.

nokia has a multimedia converter that you can download for free (registration required) from their global website. it converts avi/mpg/mov/etc. to 3gp format.

:)

[##RaCeR##]

^^

Thanks, I'll check it out.

So, MPEG4 = 3GP? Because on the official Nokia website it specifically says MPEG4 support, but doesn't mention anything about 3GP for the 6230, yet it mentions 3GP quite a few times with the 7600 yet doesn't mention MPEG4.

I don't understand.

Also, are there JAVA based applications that can be downloaded to enable a phone (such as the 6230) to do different things, like for instance play different media files, view different image formats etc? Like, I heard someone say they downloaded an mp3 player for their 6600, yet it can't play mp3 files outta the box. Is this because the 6600 is a Symbian phone (is it??? I thought it was just Series 60).

[Cyberdog]

ipodee:

There's a Kodak digital camera with an OLED screen that they claim is brighter than LCD and its larger and uses less power, i havent personally seen it, but it sounds promising. I think that size would probably be bigger than the screen in the Nokia 6230.

[Andy]

Will the 6230 allow files (sound, video, picture) to be sent or received via bluetooth and ir to other devices?

I have a 7250 and it is a complete pain that I cannot send pictures via ir to another phone or pda, only by using the buggy nokia software to my pc.

[orange]

Originally posted by ipodee
1. Yes, conversion to .3gp needed, no direct mpeg4 compatibility

6230 supports also MPEG-4 VSP coded videos along with the H.263 coded video wrapped into 3gp file format. Audio supported in video clip is AMR-NB.

Originally posted by Andy
Will the 6230 allow files (sound, video, picture) to be sent or received via bluetooth and ir to other devices?

Yes, depending of course if the content is not protected with DRM.

[##RaCeR##]

Originally posted by orange
6230 supports also MPEG-4 VSP coded videos along with the H.263 coded video wrapped into 3gp file format. Audio supported in video clip is AMR-NB.


so what does that mean? It supports both MPEG 4 and 3GP? So they aren't one and the same?

Boy its confusing! All I want to be able to do is watch vids and listen to high quality audio on my phone!

[Cyberdog]

Orange:

Do you know much about DRM? How does it work? Is it like it just doesnt let you copy or send a file to another person or what?

##RaCeR##:

You can just use Nokia multimedia player to convert most videos into 3gp and be able to play them on a phone. Dont know how good the quality is though, and its a bit buggy too, i tried converting a simpsons episode and it only coverted the first 20 seconds or something! then i tried changing the setting and i think it crashed or something, i think my laptop's just too old!

[ipodee]

Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
^^

Thanks, I'll check it out.

So, MPEG4 = 3GP? Because on the official Nokia website it specifically says MPEG4 support, but doesn't mention anything about 3GP for the 6230, yet it mentions 3GP quite a few times with the 7600 yet doesn't mention MPEG4.

I don't understand.

Also, are there JAVA based applications that can be downloaded to enable a phone (such as the 6230) to do different things, like for instance play different media files, view different image formats etc? Like, I heard someone say they downloaded an mp3 player for their 6600, yet it can't play mp3 files outta the box. Is this because the 6600 is a Symbian phone (is it??? I thought it was just Series 60).

nokia series 60 = symbian.
6600 has no stereo output so it's not meant as a mp3 player (like 3650) unlike 7600 or 6230.

[ipodee]

Boy its confusing! All I want to be able to do is watch vids and listen to high quality audio on my phone!

3GPP and 3GPP2 are the new worldwide standards for the creation, delivery and playback of multimedia over 3rd generation, high-speed wireless networks. Defined by the 3rd Generation Partnership Project and 3rd Generation Partnership Project 2 respectively, these standards seek to provide uniform delivery of rich multimedia over newly evolved, broadband mobile networks (3rd generation networks) to the latest multimedia-enabled wireless devices. Tailored to the unique requirements of mobile devices, 3GPP and 3GPP2 take advantage of MPEG-4, the standard for delivery of video and audio over the Internet.

When defining the MPEG-4 standard, the ISO (International Organization for Standardization) chose to base MPEG-4 on the QuickTime architecture. And because 3GPP and 3GPP2 are based on the MPEG-4 standard, these formats also benefit from the extensibility, scalability and stability of QuickTime. This means that 3GPP (.3gp) and 3GPP2 (.3g2) files inherit from QuickTime the ability to mix different types of media, like video, audio and text, in a single file thanks to its track-based file format. 3GPP and 3GPP2 files also inherit QuickTime’s scalability, allowing media at a broad range of bandwidths to be delivered in the same type of file. Additionally, these formats benefit from the time-tested stability of QuickTime. For more than a decade, QuickTime’s flexible format has been easily expanded to include new technologies.



cyberdog:

i have seen those external OLED displays on some samsung/panasonic hps... they look pretty ace, but dunno if anyone has succeeded in implementing a larger one on a cellfone

[orange]

Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
so what does that mean? It supports both MPEG 4 and 3GP? So they aren't one and the same?

You're mixing things here... MPEG-4 and H.263 are video codecs and 3GP is a file format. You can put different things inside the file format. 6230 supports both MPEG-4 VSP and H.263 video codecs in 3GP file format.

[##RaCeR##]

^^

Thanks I get it now. I guess the word MPEG just gets you alittle confused. MPEG2 = DivX/Avi and MPEG4 = 3GP.

Anyway, its going to be a great phone. My main reason for buying it is the mp3 function and its small size.

Also, my mum has a 6100 and my dad a 7250i. I was very surprised to see that both these phones have very different quality displays. The 6100 is just very bland and nowhere near as bright as the 7250i, even on the same settings. I am really hoping the 6230 has a great display.

[TheZodiac]

This phone will be my new girlfriend. Small, with everything you need, with out having cumbersome smartphone bloatage or overthe top junk I dont need; I have my CSK for that ;-)

I have a 128MB card left over from my Nokia 3300 (US, with the split KB) Im pretty sure it will work? Along with the BT connection a device like the CellStar PocketSurfer wold compliment this good! Although its not going to be released until Fall or possibly sooner, it something Im excited about, only because Im a gadget nucklehead. :D

If you arent familair with the PocketSurver thingy, check it out :)
www.pocketsurfer.net

Thanks, you guys RULE.

Anthony
www.godmode.com

[The Edge]

Ah, but can it cook you dinner?
Actually, it wouldn't surprise me if it can :)

[Cyberdog]

How does the pocket surfer actually connect to the net? I havent been able to find any details of this in my quick read of the site. Does it need to be connected to a mobile? Or do you place a sim card into it? Hmmm... Interesting device...

[malinda]

Please tell me If I put a wallpaper in the Nokia 6230, does this wallpaper will appear like a watermark (in the background ) in the grid manu setting. Like in the Nokia 6600 and Sony Ericsson T610/630/Z600

:confused:

[Cyberdog]

I believe so, I cant imagine wallpapers appearing in the foreground!

[##RaCeR##]

OK, either I'm as dumb as nuts or somethings just not right.

I was playing around with NERO today and ripped some CD audio into AAC (.mp4) format. Now, MPEG-4 =AAC/.mp4 but MPEG-4 is supposedley a movie format, not audio, according to QUICKTIME. I ripped some 4 min audio tracks at a constant bitrate of 192kbps and the file size was around 5-6 megs, which was alot more then I thought they'd be as AAC format files are supposedly considerably smaller then .mp3 files yet with almost the same quality.

Also, because MPEG-4 is a movie format, could you rip vids in AAC format too?

[The Edge]

I should be able to purchase a 6230 towards the end of February for around $NZ899, according to the dude at the cellphone shop I go to, when I went there today.

[##RaCeR##]

Official AU release date is 29th January.

I rang Nokia today.

[Andy]

899NZD, that's over 300 pounds! Thank god I don't have to buy my phones in aotearoa, last phone I bought was nokia 7250 on contract for £25, contract is up March so I'll get the 6230 then, and hopefully about the same price.

Edge, why don't you just buy it through expansys when it is released? You shouldn't have to pay vat so it is bound to be less than 899NZD

[The Edge]

Yeah...except Vodafone don't do contracts here, so the phone is more, but it's yours from the outset, there's no "you have to be with us for 6 years" kinda thing.

I would get one from overseas, but last time I did that, import duties added an extra $NZ100 to the price of the phone, and when it needed service, I wasn't able to do anything about it, even tho it was under warranty. I ended up selling it for a pretty major loss in the end. So, as you can understand, I'm not really keen to go down that road again.

[Cyberdog]

29th Jan Au release date.. Cool! Thats not that long, i hope that's right, cant wait to see this little beauty!

[The Edge]

Cyberdog: Any idea of a price yet?

[##RaCeR##]

^^

Must suck living in NZ.

Is stuff there like cell phones expensive?

[The Edge]

Why would it suck? We have some of the most beautiful scenery in the world, and there's plenty of room (no overcrowding) here, amongst other things.

Cellphones can be expensive, it depends who you get them from. I get them from a parallel importer who gives me a good deal.

[zalameh1]

yeah.. it does suck livin in newzealand.. everything comes out here last and its bloody expensive!!! i usually get my phones from overseas.. never got a phone from nz...
i really doubt that the 6230 will come out in the end of FEB and i am pretty sure that it wont be for NZ$899... the 7250i is selling for that much at the moment.. also VodafoneNZ does not have that tcp/ip thing for WAP and MMS yet, and i think thats required for the 6230 since it is in the 6220.. unless u get ur phones from a parallel import shop, i dont think u'll get that phone by the end of next month.. we dont even have the 6600, 3200 or 3100 yet out yet... and i dont recommend that u get it if its not out by vodafone. i got a 6220 3 months, used it for 5 weeks and now its sitting in the drawer because i couldnt get the WAP or MMS to work..

[##RaCeR##]

^^

How many carriers do you have in NZ?

Do you only have Vodafone???

[zalameh1]

i think u should be able to send any file over IR or BT usin the 6230 except for java apps and games... nokia is starting to allow that because of SE's easy share "system"... thats what its like on my 6220 so i guess itll be the same or better on the 6230... is it just me or is nokia having to change there old ways in order to compete in todays market.... before they used to say that they make different phones with different features for different types of ppl.. now they are just putting everything theyve got into one phone.. kinda like sonyericsson.....

[zalameh1]

weve got vodafone, telecom and boost mobile.... vodafone and telecom are really competing these days... vodafone has got "the longest weekend" which is "u pay off-peak rates for vodafone to vodafone calls until end of feb" + free MMS till march...
telecom is doing "txt all u want for only $10 a month"

[The Edge]

Telecom is crap. Their 025 network is a joke. The sooner they turn that useless thing off the better. 027 is better, technology wise. Boost is Telecom, btw :)

The $10 texting thing is a good idea, but it's only because Telecom lost market share to Vodafone. They won't keep texting at that rate going forever. It's just to get customers over from Vodafone.

Personally, I just like Vodafone. Never had an issue with them, and the phones are a lot more funkier than CDMA :)

zalameh1: that's what my shop (a parallel importer in Albany told me); he expects to have the 6230 by the end of the month. He has the 6220 in there already, as well as the 660 and the 3100. I wouldn't buy one from overseas again; too many hassles if you need repairs done under warranty. At least if you get it here you can take it back to the shop and get it sorted. I wouldn't buy a phone via Vodafone tho; too expensive.

[zalameh1]

yeh i know vodafone is too expensive... what i meant is wait till vodafone realeses that phone, or ull be just waisting ur money.. three important features in my 6220 wont work because of vodafone not having the proper settings - GPRS, MMS, and E-mail.. i called up vodafone 5 times and they couldnt help...
next time u go to "Parallel Imports " ask them if they know any settings u need to put in so that u dont get the phone and realise that u cant use some features...
maybe im using the wrong settings!!?

[The Edge]

Quite possibly you may have the wrong settings.

I don't know, it's just something about me, I like being "first on the block" type of thing to get the newest phone, which means if I wait for Vodafone to release it, everyone else will have it by then :)

The only features I'd really want on the 6230 are the MP3 player and radio, as well as WAP and the camera. The rest of it doesn't really bother me...

[Cyberdog]

Hey Edge, so is there only 1 GSM network in NZ, Vodafone? And Boost uses Voda's network? Do you guys have 3 or any sort of 3G network yet?

As for price for the 6230 in Aust, I have no idea but I think it'll probably come out around AU$900 I think it'll be more expensive than the 6600, lets hope i'm wrong though!

I'll see what my friend at the Telstra shop can do, he can get me a staff price which is 10% off so that's almost $100, then i can go shop around and then he can "beat" other prices, as long as its not below cost!!

[The Edge]

No, you're a little confused there dude.

Here's how it works here:

021 = Vodafone NZ = GSM
025 = Telecom NZ = TDMA (out of date, will be turned off by 2007)
027 = Telecom NZ = CDMA (their newer network)
029 = Telstra-Clear = GSM (resells Vodafone's stuff)

Boost Mobile = a youth brand, that merely resells Telecom stuff (both 025 and 027).

Telstra-Clear and Vodafone are both talking about setting up a 3G network sometime this year. But at the moment, no, there is no 3G in NZ.

[##RaCeR##]

Do you guys have Virgin mobile in NZ?

Virgin uses its own network in AU right?

[zalameh1]

yeah.. i like havin the newest phone as well.... i got my 6100, 7250 and 6220 way before they were out in newzealand... all of them were alright except for the 6220... i regret buyin it..

[The Edge]

Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
Do you guys have Virgin mobile in NZ?

Virgin uses its own network in AU right?

No...you don't see it in my list, do you?

Those are the ONLY networks we have. The ONLY GSM one is Vodafone. No Orange, no O2 (or whatever it is), no T-Mobile, etc etc etc.

There was a company in 2001 who were making noises about starting up, called EcoNet, but to date they haven't done anything about it.

[Cyberdog]

Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
Do you guys have Virgin mobile in NZ?

Virgin uses its own network in AU right?



No virgin doesn't have their own network in Aust, they use the Optus network, that's why when i saw a friend's phone it first says YES OPTUS on the screen then changes to Virgin, quite cool actually, since i'd never seen the Operator logo change before!

[TheZodiac]

Originally posted by Cyberdog
How does the pocket surfer actually connect to the net? I havent been able to find any details of this in my quick read of the site. Does it need to be connected to a mobile? Or do you place a sim card into it? Hmmm... Interesting device...

It has BT so it can be used witha PC, cell phone or other device that supports that particilar BT profile :) Looks cool though huh?

[TheZodiac]

Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
OK, either I'm as dumb as nuts or somethings just not right.

I was playing around with NERO today and ripped some CD audio into AAC (.mp4) format. Now, MPEG-4 =AAC/.mp4 but MPEG-4 is supposedley a movie format, not audio, according to QUICKTIME. I ripped some 4 min audio tracks at a constant bitrate of 192kbps and the file size was around 5-6 megs, which was alot more then I thought they'd be as AAC format files are supposedly considerably smaller then .mp3 files yet with almost the same quality.

Also, because MPEG-4 is a movie format, could you rip vids in AAC format too?

AAC is the audio portion of MPEG4, as is MP3 is the audio format of MPEG1 (thinks) if its saved as MP4 kaybe its saving some uneeded video blek in it?

[TheZodiac]

Originally posted by Andy
899NZD, that's over 300 pounds! Thank god I don't have to buy my phones in aotearoa, last phone I bought was nokia 7250 on contract for £25, contract is up March so I'll get the 6230 then, and hopefully about the same price.

Edge, why don't you just buy it through expansys when it is released? You shouldn't have to pay vat so it is bound to be less than 899NZD

Also www.celluloco.com, but I guess expansys is the best for a UK dude. I will prob buy it there as well.

[TheZodiac]

Originally posted by The Edge
Why would it suck? We have some of the most beautiful scenery in the world, and there's plenty of room (no overcrowding) here, amongst other things.

Cellphones can be expensive, it depends who you get them from. I get them from a parallel importer who gives me a good deal.


NZ must be one of the most beautiful places on earth to live/visit. How about posting a photo or two :D

[Andy]

Please don't post photos, I'll just get homesick!

One thing nz is getting pretty soon in telecoms is VoIP landlines. Got to be good, although the name, woosh, is a bit daft.

[The Edge]

Woosh is awesome. I'd love to get it if I could...the sooner it's available where I am, the better. No more Telecom DSL for me! :)

The sooner I can get my 6230 the sooner I'm a happy man.

[Cyberdog]

Ok well this is a bit strange, but yesterday I spoke to some more ppl asking when the 6230 might be available, and one place told me that i should give it at least another 2 months, cos Nokia is never on time with releases!!!

Now to the good news, another place told me about 2 more weeks and they should have it! So i dunno what to believe anymore!

The place that said 2 months, the guys looked it up on the Nokia retailers website! Im just hoping he's wrong! Im not waiting another 2 months for it, stuff that!!

[The Edge]

Update: I should be able to get it mid-March. The dude I buy my phones from told me Nokia are meant to release it end of February, so he should have it a few weeks later.

[Slimer]

I phoned 4 nokia stores yesterday and they all told me 4th of march is the expected date.

[##RaCeR##]

^^

I dunno who to believe anymore.

I was told from Nokia 29th January, as its being released side by side with the 7600 in Australia.

[Cyberdog]

Slimer, which places did you call, cos almost all the phone shops i've talked to have no idea when its coming out, and the ones that have an idea are only guessing or have a vague idea!

[##RaCeR##]

^^

My contract ran out on the 15th so I went and did some heavy investigating.

I asked numorous stores such as Telstra Shop, Fone Zone, Crazy Johns, Optus World, C21, Vodafone and All Phones and NONE of them could give me a date, most didn't know anything about the phone and most if not all of the stores told me that they don't find out which phones they will be selling until maybe 4 days before they get it.

I'm kinda over it now. I need a new phone and if the 6230 doesn't release on the same day as the 7600 like I have been told from Nokia, then I will just buy it.

[Cyberdog]

Yeah i've been to just about every phone shop you can think of, including all the little private ones, and they've all told me then know about a week before they get the phones which are being released, so that's pretty bad.

I too am tired of waiting, especially being told at one Allphones store that it could be up to 3 more months waiting for it, stuff that! I'll wait till Feb, but that's about it, if its not out by then i'll get another phone and perhaps later trade up.

[##RaCeR##]

^^

The most concrete information I was given was from Vodafone. The guy said that the Nokia rep was in the other day and told all staff to try and clear out as much Nokia stuff they can because they are going to need the shelf space for 'several' new Nokia models being released end of January/early February. I assume those are the 6230, 7600 and 7200 or 7700.

Considering Expansys has the 7600 as being released in AU in 4 more days and that Nokia said 29th Jan, it just seems to make sense that they will all be being released together. They are apart of their 2004 series of phones, and each one is aimed at a different market.

Makes sense.

[Slimer]

I called these shops and they all told me the same thing

Nokia Priority Dealer Shop 609
Level 6
Westfield Shopping Centre
Chatswood 2067 NSW 02 9412 3788

Nokia Priority Dealer 65 Walker St
North Sydney 2060 NSW 02 8904 1888

Nokia Priority Dealer Shop 115-116
Macquarie St
Westfield Shopping Mall
Liverpool 2170 NSW 02 9824 1077


I was just overseas and played with the Nokia 7600. Nice screen but its ugly in real life and too big and square for me. It was costing $705AU in Dubai where I was visiting.

[Slimer]

Oh yeah and it should be out in Dubai in the next 10-12 days and my brother is still in Dubai and is bringing me one if it comes out while he is still there :D. I will take pics of it for you all ;)

[The Edge]

7600?? I think I'll pass...looks more like a hand sized computer (palm pilot?) more than anything...

Did someone say this thing comes out at the same time as the 6230?

[The Edge]

Actually, how/where do you hold the 7600 to talk on it???

[Slimer]

In the top right hand corner is the ear piece and the you hold it in your hand like a square phone to talk

[zalameh1]

i saw the 7600 with an asian woman a couple of days ago.. looked nice but was a bit bigger than i expected...

::SLIMER::
u said "it should be out in dubai in the next 10-12 days" was that the 7600 or the 6230??? also do u know the name of the shop he is getting it from.. because there are ones that are way cheaper than others...

[Slimer]

7600 was released in dubai 2-3 weeks back. 6230 is coming out over there in 10-12 days.

[Andy]

if anyone has advice on where to look in dubai for cheap phones please let me know, the gf is going there in a few weeks...

[Cyberdog]

Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
^^

The most concrete information I was given was from Vodafone. The guy said that the Nokia rep was in the other day and told all staff to try and clear out as much Nokia stuff they can because they are going to need the shelf space for 'several' new Nokia models being released end of January/early February. I assume those are the 6230, 7600 and 7200 or 7700.

Considering Expansys has the 7600 as being released in AU in 4 more days and that Nokia said 29th Jan, it just seems to make sense that they will all be being released together. They are apart of their 2004 series of phones, and each one is aimed at a different market.

Makes sense.



Well i'd say we can expect it in stores in the fist week of fed then with a bit of luck!

[Slimer]

Originally posted by Andy
if anyone has advice on where to look in dubai for cheap phones please let me know, the gf is going there in a few weeks...


Tell her to check out carrefour hypermarkets and lulu centers they are the cheapest for anything electrical in dubai.
fono are good also. www.myfono.com

[Michael]

Originally posted by The Edge
7600?? I think I'll pass...looks more like a hand sized computer (palm pilot?) more than anything... Yeah, I don't think I could ever use that thing.

I think it looks ridiculous.

[The Edge]

Originally posted by Michael
I think it looks ridiculous.

[Slimer]

Yeah it does look ridiculous but it is a very good phone :D

[JohnV]

Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
I ripped some 4 min audio tracks at a constant bitrate of 192kbps and the file size was around 5-6 megs, which was alot more then I thought they'd be as AAC format files are supposedly considerably smaller then .mp3 files yet with almost the same quality. Hello?!? If you encode with 192 kilobits per second, of course it will be that filesize regardless of audio coding method.
The point is that you should be able to reach about the same sound quality when using AAC at 96kbps compared to using MP3 at 128kbps.

[zalameh1]

will the nokia 3300 memory card work on the 6230??? i noticed its got nokia 3300 written on it so is it only for the 3300??

[ipodee]

Originally posted by The Edge
Actually, how/where do you hold the 7600 to talk on it???

i just hold it at an angle by turning the phone a little so that thje screen is slanted and use it like a normal phone

[ipodee]

[Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
I ripped some 4 min audio tracks at a constant bitrate of 192kbps and the file size was around 5-6 megs, which was alot more then I thought they'd be as AAC format files are supposedly considerably smaller then .mp3 files yet with almost the same quality. . [/B]


well i used the nokia audio manger to convert my CD tracks into .aac format. There is a mobile-optimized bitrate which I used. A 3.5 min song usually is about 1.7 mb. It sounds rather good on the phone especially with the earpiece on. Stereo, loud, crisp and with bass. When played through the loudspeaker, they sounded decent too. I was quite surprised.

When I used Nero audio converter function to check what bitrate the mobile-optimised bitrate is, it showed 128kbps

[Slimer]

I think the 6230 is coming very soon cause on www.ebay.com.au under Nokia mobile phone models the 6230 has its own link for sales. That means it will be coming there very soon for sale from the asian markets to Australia from Hong Kong and China