Is Wifi(2.4Ghz) harmfull to our health?

[marwan]

I know wifi is not as powerfull as let's say mobile phone frequency/radiation, but does wifi cause any kind of health problems(god forbbids)?

the reason i ask is cause i have a wireless access point on my computer desk connected to Dlink antena(http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=1&pid=416) to extend the wireless range, then i have a repeater next to my 10 month old babbies room so i could use my laptop when i'm next to them(or any family member). Now there is a wall between the repeater and the babbies room, but when the kids are playing, they're usually next to the repeater.

Has wifi been proven to cause any kind of health problems/damage?

thanks!

[marwan]

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[im92109210]

well i guess u didnt get any reply cuz no one who knows saw ur post hehe as far as i know it is not. but people say alot of things.. just wait for someone who knows i guess :rolleyes:

[Jose_R.A.M]

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googled it and theres

http://www.computerworld.com/mobiletopics/mobile/story/0,10801,90275,00.html

http://www.cio.com/archive/021504/tl_lawsuits.html

and http://www.redmondmag.com/reports/article.asp?EditorialsID=254

(Click CTRL-F WIFI)

The lack of articles about actual reported health problems related to wifi suggests it isnt harmful to our health.

[marwan]

Thanks Jose, i'll check the links out.

[666joe]

I'm dubious - after the DECT reports being 8X higher than GSM for radiation this is concerning....

Surely some uber scientist can use his special video camera to see the effects of waves on human subjects or similar...

Billions of radio waves and who knows what else floating around and no one will say that it is harming us ?

[marwan]

yep, we are constantly exposed to radio frequencies, you've got GSM antennas everywhere, then there is TV broadbasting antennas, then there is WiFi at shopping malls, cafe's, restaurants, then also got bluetooth, wifi at home(getting very popular and becoming a standard), GPS systems in cars....we continuously surrounded by RF. i know wifi is not as powerfull as GSM, it's just that i'm getting paranoid. ;0

[666joe]

Marwan off the top of my head we have the following hitting our soft brains all day long:

- GSM
- Electromagnetic waves from everything electrical
- 3G
- Bluetooth
- Wi-fi
- FM, MW, LW
- GPS
- ELF
- SLF
- VLF
- VF
- VHF
- UHF
- EHF
- LF

Add in all the secret government communcation mediums that we will never know about and we are bombarded daily by 100's if not 1000's of different signals/waves....

Reckon we are being cooked slowly or our bodies are evolving to coe with this ?

[marwan]

Marwan off the top of my head we have the following hitting our soft brains all day long:

- GSM
- Electromagnetic waves from everything electrical
- 3G
- Bluetooth
- Wi-fi
- FM, MW, LW
- GPS
- ELF
- SLF
- VLF
- VF
- VHF
- UHF
- EHF
- LF

Add in all the secret government communcation mediums that we will never know about and we are bombarded daily by 100's if not 1000's of different signals/waves....

Reckon we are being cooked slowly or our bodies are evolving to coe with this ?

damn, humans are going to mutate! lol

[francisofarabia]

dont forget the "SUN", tis the one that gives the most waves and radiation... then theres the gazillions of stars that radiates over a gazillion of miles away...

[carcomptoy]

LOL yeah Wifi's just the tip of the iceberg...

Although I'd be iffy about the repeater by your baby's room:cool:

[marwan]

LOL yeah Wifi's just the tip of the iceberg...

Although I'd be iffy about the repeater by your baby's room:cool:

iffy as in?

[marwan]

oh great...

http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/wireless/canadian-university-says-no-to-wifi-157442.php

:(

[crazyze]

A little over the top from that university, I think WiFi should be fine, boosters my be an issue, but not normal WiFi.

As joe pointed out we are always bombarded with radio waves

[666joe]

dont forget the "SUN", tis the one that gives the most waves and radiation... then theres the gazillions of stars that radiates over a gazillion of miles away...

Yeh but difference is the sun has been there since the dawn of time (theorists don't pick holes) so presumeably living organisms ahould be used to it's radiation....whereas as all these new frequencies over the last 50 years are utlilising frequencies and waves we never knew exsisted.....

It's worrying - why doesn;t the government/someone do a report on that eh ? I really do believe we are beign affected, fertility, lifespan etc etc but if it ever officially surfaced we'd lose the way of life we have become so acustomed too.....

BTW - doesnt BT operate on exactly the same frequency as a microwave oven ?

[marwan]

I know BT is 2.4, dunno anything about microwave ovens frequency. i'm sure it's far more powerfull than BT.....since i don't feel so hot when i'm around an active BT device! :P

[marwan]

A little over the top from that university, I think WiFi should be fine, boosters my be an issue, but not normal WiFi.

As joe pointed out we are always bombarded with radio waves

how are boosters/repeaters any different? when they're essentially the same as wifi(Access points/wireless routers and such)?

[crazyze]

You could be right, it depends what they are, I only have knowledge in wireless sensors that do not require routers i.e. Zigbee and mesh networking. They are fine and operate at 2.2GHz.

[tinman]

You would think that WiFi devices would not have any adverse health impact because of their low power output. But I have noticed problems in that the signal seems to cause problems to my nervous system. I tend to get headaches, blurred vision, tingling feelings and a strong vibrating sensations in my nerves when I'm in close proximity to a WiFi transmitter. It is most noticable when I'm actually holding a PDA using WiFi to browse web pages or use Skype. I have read on online forums of other people who claim to experience similar sensitivity to this kind of radiation.

I've noticed that some people say that WiFi radiation is just radiowaves and there is nothing to worry about since there radio transmissions have been occurring for decades without problems. But I think there is a difference in that WiFi (along with mobile phone transmissions and other wireless networking devices) uses much higher frequencies which are in the microwave band (above about 900Mhz - WiFi itself is around 2.4Ghz). Also, we are often in much closer proximity to the devices that are radiating. From what I understand, microwaves have been known to cause health problems for decades, particularly in the former Soviet Union, similar to what myself and a lot of other people have been claiming about WiFi and also even mobile phone radiation. It will be interesting to see how this issue develops in coming years, but I suspect there will be a lot more research and a lot more people noticing these kings of problems.

[marwan]

this is scary.im thinking of going wired all over my house. So muhc for getting the 60GB Playstation 3 with built in wifi :(

i'm also curious to know if wifi affects new borns and children in a more harmful way.

[crazyze]

It is one of these issues that we will never know how much it affects us until it strikes in 50 years time - so be wary but not paranoid IMO

[666joe]

this is scary.im thinking of going wired all over my house. So muhc for getting the 60GB Playstation 3 with built in wifi :(

i'm also curious to know if wifi affects new borns and children in a more harmful way.

Marwan - you next door neighbour got wi-fi or the neighbour next to them ? granted you may not have a router in your house but combine the 5 or so around you and it's as good as having one next to your PC....

Some people may be more affected than others and as usual some will make more of it than they actually need to...don't forget how many radio/micro waves are buzzing through us right now !!

Crayze - I agree fully - don't forget smoking was good for you just 50yrs ago and Coke contained cocaine !!

[marwan]

coke containing cocaine was BS right?

[666joe]

coke containing cocaine was BS right?

Only a time machine would reveal all - until I build one found the below:

How much cocaine Coke actually contained and how much kick you got from it is not known (a Coke spokesman today says the amount was "trivial"). But for years Southerners called the stuff "dope" or "a shot in the arm," while soda fountains were called "hop joints" and Coke delivery trucks "dope wagons."

In the 1890s, however, public sentiment began to turn against cocaine, which among other things was believed to be a cause of racial violence by drug-crazed blacks. In 1903 the New York Tribune published an article linking cocaine with black crime and calling for legal action against Coca-Cola.

Shortly thereafter Coke quietly switched from fresh to "spent" coca leaves (i.e., what's left over after the cocaine has been removed). It also stopped advertising Coke as a cure for what ails you and instead promoted it simply as a refreshing beverage.

Does the substitution of denatured coca for The Real Thing constitute a change in the magic Coke formula? Not according to Coke.

The true source of Coke's unique flavor, the company contends, lies not in the coca/cola combination but in the special mix of oils and flavorings added thereto, including the mysterious ingredient known as Merchandise 7X.

The formula is kept in a bank vault and known to only a handful of Coke employees (and of course at least one other person--but I'll never tell). It was this formula that Coke changed when it introduced the infamous New Coke, replacing Merchandise 7X with an updated Merchandise 7X-100.

There are those who say that Asa Candler, who bought the infant Coke company from Pemberton, tinkered with the formula a bit before settling on a version that he liked; and these folks claim that the formula thus cannot truly be said to be 99 years old. Others regard this as contemptible nitpicking.

Still, whatever may be said about the formula, Coke's taste has certainly altered over the years. The most radical (and to serious Coke aficionados, most upsetting) change came in 1980, when Coke, in an effort to control costs, permitted its bottlers to substitute high-fructose corn sweetener for the beet and cane sugar once used in the product.

The result was that Coke's previously crisp and bracing taste was sadly blunted. For that reason I didn't share the feelings of the fanatics who stocked up on "old" Coke when the new version was first introduced. The regrettable fact is that Coke hasn't been It for many years.

[carcomptoy]

LOL should we start a new thread concerning Coca-Cola now?

[marwan]

next thing you'll know, Pepsi used to contain poppers! lol

[666joe]

Nah just reindeer earlobes...lol. Would you believe on it's release it was known as Brads drink - catchy eh !

But seriously we plough through miles of wireless emissions everyday - disable yours while not in use but your neighbour or anyones house you walk past on the way to work - every house you fly over at low altitude it all adds up.

Believe its part fact and part urban myth but either way I'm being careful... My phone no longer resides when travelling next to the crown jewels.