Sendo X

[ftasende]

Does anyone know when Sendo X will be available in the U.K. market? It's been a while since they announced it but I can't see any news or future dates.

Thanks in advance.

[Cyberdog]

I've seen on one site (i cant remember which anymore) that it should be out before the end of this year. However i think that might be a bit optimistic!

I took am interested in seeing one, looks like a very nice phone, seems to take care of most of the issues that the 6600 has, except no radio :(

[ftasende]

I agree,it can solve most of the issues 6600 has and that's why I am waiting for it instead of purchasing the Nokia,but having on account this delay and lack of information I'm starting to reconsider and buy it anyway.

As for the radio,I'm sure there will be some kind of software that can solve it.

Thanks for your answer and if anyone has any additional information/news,etc please post it.

Happy holidays to all

[Cyberdog]

I really doubt that there could be some software to add a radio to the phone, i'm pretty sure the radio is part of the hardware, but has anyone heard of anything like this being done for another phone, a software add on radio??

[gemini]

No I don't think that has been done on any other phone before as it is hardware specific.

[mOE]

Supposedly, it would be out in 3-4 weeks
Somewhere in the 1st quarter of 2004...

[gemini]

can't wait, if its not out by mid feb though i'll be getting the 6600 without a doubt.

[mOE]

I know....

although if i dont see a sign of it by the end of january im getting the P900

[wesleykem]

Does anyone know when Sendo X will be available in the U.S. market?

[mantari]

hi
the sendo x people seem to have gone quiet...

any update as to when it will be available... being the new year and all that...?

Either madrid or at home in GB...

I did send them a mail but of course they didn't reply.


Anyome heard anything new please?

[Michael]

A friend at Sendo said that they shoul dbe showing up in some small markets any day now, if not already.

He works for the competitive analysis department, though, so he isn't directly involved with the shipping of the X.

In any event, it isn't late. They have always been telling me January or February for a launch.

[mantari]

Thank you your quick reply

From all accounts it seems quite an impressive little phone.

I look forward to seeing it here soon in Madrid or back home.

Ahh Feb. just in time for my birthday :)

Regards,

[wesleykem]

I have heard from Sendo! They expect T-mobile to be the U.S. carrier in late March. Can't wait, hope that it won't be any later and maybe sooner. It may be out sooner without a carrier.


From: "Walling Richard" <xxxxxxx@sendo.com> Subject: FW: New Incident - Which carrier in the U.S. do you expect to carry the Sendo X and when will it... (040107-000001)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 20:50:31 -0000




I expect T-Mobile to be the first carrier to offer the phone.

My guess would be late March for the US.

[7up]

http://www.phones4u.co.uk/shop/shop_comingsoon_details.asp?ItemKey=116532

it will be probably released in februry or early march in uk first.

[Cyberdog]

Does anyone know if and when the Sendo X will be available in Australia?

[mantari]

so here we are in February...

no trumpet fanfares, dancing girls, flashing lights, sky writing bi-planes nor telegrams from the Queen… AND no sign of the lesser spotted Sendo X :(

so whats the score? Where is it? Why is Sendo so quiet? Nothing new of any substance on their web site, or anywhere else either.

Since the pre Christmas reviews there has been silence. In fact the silence from Sendo is deafening! :confused:

I’m interested in either UK, Spain or Italian markets…

Has anyone got anything of any substance to brighten my somewhat dull day here in Madrid??

[Sid]

They said in a press conference that it would be out the 1st quarter. When asked to elaborate they said "before the end of March". Let's see if they can deliver.

[mantari]

thank you sid

lets hope there is something soon...

my siemens m35i is on its last legs

[ftasende]

Hi,
I have just checked the phones4u website where the Sendo X was announced in the 'Coming soon' section just to discover that it is not there any more but not in any other sections either.
I have also read that the same has happened in different shops and different countries(Italy).

Does anyone have any news about an official delay on the dates or even a final 'not release' of the phone.

Thanks,

Fermin.

[mantari]

i have seen February or March at this web

http://www.filesaveas.com/sendox.html

This guy has a sendo x furum if you want to check with him:

http://www.filesaveas.co.uk/cgi-bin/forum/YaBB.pl?board=sendo60;action=display;num=106735080 1

maybe if you get intouch with him he might be able to shed some light on this for us all

:)

[ftasende]

Thanks for your answer mantari,

I will try to contact him or find more information about this phone wich I am really interested in.
Anyway if you or anyone find or received any new information please post it,
T
Thank you.

Ruki.

[mantari]

I couldn’t agree more. :)

I too an very interested to hear something of this phone. So if anyone has some more news or can persuade someone from Sendo to place an update, that would be great.


I see that Sendo will be at the 3GSM World Congress at Cannes, France (23rd to 26th February 2004).

They do invite us all to their stand…"Please come and visit us on the yacht Princess Sany, Jetee Albert Edouard, Port de Cannes or at stand L1 in Hall 4 "

Lets hope someone can get to visit them for an update on the progress of the Sendo X and an eventual date for sale

[wwwebber]

Uncanny, http://www.celluloco.com inidcate that this phone will be available on Feb 23rd !!.

[mantari]

almost :eek: ....

its the day after my birthday :(

I better phone the family memebres and get them to postpone it by a day :D

lets keep our fingers crossed....


thanks for the update :)

there is a new thread started with some very interesting details
new thread (http://forums.mobileburn.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1889)

take a look....

[mantari]

i received this reply this morning:



Thanks for taking the time to write to Celluloco.com. Here is our
feedback on your request:


Sendo X will be updated on our site for April launch. They are adding voice recognition on the phone.



Best Regards,

Celluloco.com Support Team


... so it looks as if we'll have to wait a while :(

[ftasende]

I emailed sendo directly asking for a release date and this is the answer I just got.


We are in the final testing phase. I cannot yet give you a specific
date, but we hope to announce this soon via our website.

Best regards,

Marijke van Hooren



So,they didn't give me any kind of date.

They are proving not to be very reliable.

[ftasende]

Hi,
Have anyone of you noticed any difference on the phone looking at the last available pictures?
It seems to have changed.It has some black and white bits on the shell where before it was all metal color.

Please have a look and post your views.

Regards.

[mantari]

you are right! They have B&W squares on it. Take a look at the pics in the mobile burn review and you'll see the difference.

Also I received a message from the same man at Sendo this morning too. (unfortunately I deleted it)

I asked when it would be available in Spain, UK or Italy... his kind reply was something like...in the coming weeks.

He said that it also depended on the distribution strategy. If it was supplied by a phone company it may appear sooner than if it was to be sold without one.

Well, at least he replied…so I should thank him for that. I imagine he gets the same question day-in, day-out…. Sorry

[ham]

where are the pics...some1 post a site plz

[mantari]

Mobile Burn's pics here (http://www.mobileburn.com/news.jsp?Id=514&source=SEARCH)


New Sendo X pics here (http://www.sendo.com/news/images.asp)

[justop26]

Originally posted by mantari
hi

Either madrid or at home in GB...



Madrid, eh? Hablas español... Supongo? Or don't you?

[mantari]

claro que si todo los ingléses hablan español :D

[mantari]

2 nice new phones from Sendo today at Cannes

http://www.sendo.com/news/index.asp


But nothing new about the X :(

[DAN55]

nice,but...still no news on the old 'X' :(

[justop26]

Originally posted by mantari
claro que si todo los ingléses hablan español :D


Todos los ingleses??? Mira tú--- No sabía! además, lo último que me esperaba era a alguien hablando español aquí... Sorpresas que da la vida!

[ollie]

I've just had this back from Sendo regarding the Sendo X release:

"Depends on where you live. I expect [the Sendo X] in the UK and Spain in the coming weeks. We will try to keep everyone informed via our website.

Best regards,

Marijke van Hooren"

Would seems though the Sendo X is almost upon us!

Maybe Celluloco will be correct with thier 18th March estimate?:D

[mantari]

Thanks for the update

I was hoping that there might be something from the CeBIT exhibition, at least an update on the web but nothing :(


Did anyone find out why the photos now had black cheque down the sides of the phone?

[mikelaaron]

i chatted with a celluloco rep yesterday, (the 18th), asking if the phone had arrived.

The rep said that Sendo told them that it has been delayed another 28 days.

I don't know if that just means that celluloco won't be able to get it's supply for 28 days, or if it's been delayed everywhere.

[DAN55]

sounds very likely if you believe the number of bugs found be some cebit visitors! :(

sendo say they are STILL testing. so we can only hope?! :confused:

[mantari]

Oh NO... talk about the never ending story.... :o

by the time it eventually arrives...it will be out dated NO? :mad:

Already we are seeing phones with better cameras....

Its a pity too that Sendo never update their web site to let us know just a little... anything would be better than scratching around for information.....


Keep me posted....

thanks:)

[dee]

Yeah mantari I agree with you.

Sendo have really shot themsevles in the foot with this phone. It was great and still is but, is not so wonderful anyomore. There are far more capable phones coming out in the future and I fear that Sendo just delayed for to long:(

[gangstar]

really wanted the sendo X but it still aint out. So I got N-Gage instead and i'm looovin it!!!!!!:D

[mantari]

Hi... the latest from our good friend at Sendo...

"Things are going fine. We are in the final testing phase now with the Sendo X and I expect that we will ship in Spain to start with in April. The phone was received pretty well at CeBIT, as were our other two new models the S600 and the M570. I cannot announce yet who will be the operator in Spain.

Best regards,

Marijke van Hooren"




I'm still convinced that our patience will pay off.... that when it finally arrives its going to be something good... and most of all... something useful... Roll-on April!

Gangster... you'll be kicking yourself soon ;)

[mikelaaron]

This is taken from engadget.com's review of their experiences at CEBIT:


...but the Sendo X, well I don’t even know what to say about it. I’ve obviously had bad experiences with Sendo in the past, but I was trying to look at the Sendo X with fresh eyes. Sure, Sendo have been true to form, delaying the release of the X again and again just like a certain other smartphone model, but that’s a good thing because the X clearly is not ready for prime time. In the course of about four minutes, a friend and I managed to crash all three display models. For those who have been waiting for the Sendo X based on its impressive specs, I recommend you find another model to lust after. Unless, of course, you’re a Sendo employee or have some crazy sort of attachment to the brand name (which would be a little weird, if you ask us).


The phone has been approved by the FCC, so you can download the user manual now...it's easy to get to by going to phonescoop.com

[mantari]

at that point I think I have to tell you all that

1) I'm not a sendo employee
2)I don't have any strange hang-up about the brand name
3)Nor do I know where Bin Laden is!


I think that writer must have been completely Traumatised by his experience.


Any thoughts of anything similar to the sendo X which I could look at? What about the Panasonic??...not nokia thanks, everyone has a nokia.... how about a little originality here.


Thanks :)

[dee]

Yeah I agree, Nokia has been in power for long enough.

I want the Sharp GX-32!!! OR a P900. Go for one of those two. Sharp Gx-30 and 32 have 1 megapixel cameras! and MP3 players!

[DerKleineFreak]

I see / test it on the CeBit 04 in Hanover. Looks very nice ;)
Release is 'After CeBit' in Europe. We can buy it now (Germany)

[mantari]

This has been passed on from our good friend at Sendo...


Thanks for your email. First of all, you will be able to download software updates or fixes. Secondly, to quote your own statement, you do not want to buy a phone that crashes and we do not want to sell one.

Allow me to explain why it is difficult to give a precise introduction date. Smartphones are very complicated products, which comprise many different software modules (the basic phone stack, the operating system, the user interface, various third party applications etc.). All this software has to work seamlessly and without glitches. On top of this, the phone needs to work on network infrastructures of more than 600 operators. All these operators have different base stations, different switches etc. and they do not all interpret the GSM/GPRS standard in the same way. This means that testing and solving software issues can take a long time. We are making very good progress and we are confident that we will ship the Sendo X in the near future.

With regard to the article on the 'engadget' website. First of all, I do not know this journalist or analyst. I am therefore surprised to read that he has had bad experiences with Sendo. We are in contact with more than 3,500 journalists and analysts and I can assure you that I cannot find this gentleman in my database. With respect to the crashing of the phones, I cannot comment on this since I do not know what happened and how he and his friend were using the phone. I do know that most of our internal users do not have this experience. Also, I checked with some journalists that got early versions and they did not experience this.

Again, we will ship the phone when it is ready. We feel that that is more important than shipping it early.

Hope this answers your questions.

Best regards,

Marijke

[DAN55]

think you must have upset them a bit by the length of that mail!
ta for the info though

[mantari]

It was a great reply to a worried e-mail regarding the article posted the other day. Better than expected..

[DAN55]

thats true. i was very concerned about the info coming back from cebit. the X didnt sound very good at all. if they take another month to really sort it, then that is cool with me. i hate getting new phones and finding they are full of bugs :(

[mantari]

I think it was a very honest reply
I agree... its good to see that there will be downloadable fixes etc

I was worried that such an expensive phone was going to leave me high and dry but having read his reply I'm back on track and looking forward to getting one

[mantari]

Thanks to Michael for the interesting Sendo X pictures here (http://www.mobileburn.com/gallery.jsp?Id=687&source=HOMETOP)


Even though it doesn't feel very good I'm sure its gotta be better than my ageing siemens m35 :)

[DAN55]

Michael:

what is wrong with the X?! does it not feel very nice to use/hold? is the build quality poor?
please expand on your disappointment! thanks

[ollie]

Bad News...

I went into Carphone Warehouse today and asked about the Sendo X and the guy behind the counter just looked back at me blankly as if i was talking another language. So... dont seem as though it's going to be released on any UK networks for the foreseeable future:( i guess im gonna have to put together my pennies for a SIM free Sendo X:(

[Michael]

Originally posted by DAN55
what is wrong with the X?! does it not feel very nice to use/hold? is the build quality poor?
please expand on your disappointment! thanks Hard to say, really. It just didn't impress. No warm fuzzy feeling. No gee-whiz factor. It could have been a Nokia 2100 for all the excitement it caused in me (aka: none).

Sid had the same basic feeling.

It looked cheap, didn't feel great to me, and just wasn't very impressive in person.

I can't really say. It was just missing all of the intangibles that make a phone "cool".

[mantari]

Ollie,
on one of my previous mails from Sendo I was given the impression it would be available in both the UK and Spain.
My worry is that here in Spain it will go to the carrier Amena which is famous for great phones but a **** network... if that's the case then I too may be looking for a simm free one.

I think I have to see it before I'll commit, but like i said before i'm sure it looks better than my old siemens m35 which is holding together with the best part of a tube of superglue... its the rubber backing abd side...its all falling to pieces... but then again it is 3 yrs old :)

So lets see what sendo has to offer...

Are there any other makes which offer such features??

thanks

[DAN55]

i think the X is gonna be sold by the Link, not CPWH

[mantari]

Hello all.....


its gone very quiet in here!

Has anyone got an update about the X or has the recent publicity put people off e.g earlier article+ MB's comments etc etc??

[DAN55]

mmm...yes - i was thinking the same. too quiet if you ask me -for a phone that is about to be launched!?!

think im starting to get could feet! :(

[mantari]

I think it will be around by the end of the month if not before

I was looking around to see what other smartphones were out there but none of them had the list of feature the X has..:eek:

So hang in there DAN55 I'm sure it will be worth the wait... and put some extra socks on if those feet are getting too cold :D


OK :)

[nirvana]

hey listen up, i've been following the x's progress, may is now the latest release date. up until now i have been a true loyal sendo x follower but quite frankly at this point in time after waiting god knows how many months i have given up, they really cant be serious over there at sendo, anyway it will probably now be postponed to june in all likelyhood the way things are going and during that period many new smartphones are gonna be released including the spanking new nokia 7610 which will probably go for, as by then the sendo x would have become an obsolete phone (well not really obsolete but you know what i mean). hope i've shown some of you the light.

[DAN55]

what the 7610 like? is it that odd shaped one? orthe one with the curved keypad?
trouble is with nokias is that they dont do self upgrades over the net. that has to be a must with top end phones i reckon. just think of all them bugs!! ;)

im considering the z1010 (i know it aint smart!), and i think it is the x700 (or 710? cant remember) any ways, probably a high end clam of some sorts

[nirvana]

you've got a point there about the firmware upgrades. yeah the 7610 is the funny shaped one with curving keypad. re the bugs come to think of it the 6600 is reported to be rather buggy to say the least, however nokia is the most reliable mobile company and i wouldnt expect too many problems from this phone (7610), especially after an updated version is released. however the sendo x is reported to have major, and when i mean major i mean huge, problems and even after its eventual release, all the firmware upgrades in the world wouldnt be able to fix the problems. im also keeping the forthcoming SE S700i in mind. that looks way cool

[DAN55]

yeah, id heard that the 6600 had quite a few problems too. i dunno, the SX1 had lots of issues too, and was delayed a fair bit. but that came through in the end.
its gotta be self upgrades for me i reckon.

mmmm....the S700 does look seriously cool :)

[mantari]

my god !

I go to lunch.... and when I come back.... you've assigned the Sendo X to the history books already:eek:

I too was, or is that is, starting to think about other smartphones. I looked at the z1010 this morning..... its not triband. As for nokia i always have the feeling its the Marks & Spencer of mobiles... it offers something to all at an affordable price.... but in the end everyone has the same. :rolleyes:


I still don't see anything on the horizon.... any good smartphones round... which I should take a look at...something which is equally comparable to the X

Something new... come on lets be different! ;)

[DAN55]

yeah i know what you mean. im still slightly concerned about it sizes and weight though. ive got an sl55 at the mo, so the X is about twice the size! ...but it is twice as good?!! yes i know on paper it is, but is it to me in the real world?

[mantari]

You've hit the nail on the head DAN55

Is it as good in real life????

Thats what I'm waiting for too

Nice s700 but for me it needs to offer the palm/smart features as it needs to be very useful at work too

[nirvana]

mantari, i am in no way assigning the sendo x to the history books, i am just saying that when the x is eventually released which will probably be around mid summer at this rate, i'd rather go for a later phone that has better technology (1MP camera, symbian 7.0 etc...) even though the X STILL remains a worthy opponent to all with its "flash" and voice recognition system. however it is reported that sendo are dealing with massive problems here regarding software especially with that screen that has those extra couple of pixels, we're talking about MAJOR programming alterations here, someone is even saying the screen is a recycled one previously belonging to the never produced sendo z100 which doesnt exactly fire me up. and the thing about marks and spencer phones, yeah i do agree almost everyone's got one but they are the most serious, reliable and most experienced company in the field and i'd much rather go for a phone produced by such a company rather than having endless worries and problems. however I AM IN NO WAY WRITING OFF THE SENDO X and i am still looking forward to the x's eventual release

[DAN55]

true. its good to look nice, but you need them feature too!

i dont necessarily need a smart fone as i dont care about memory cards etc. but i dont want the best organiser going and short cuts to die for! :)

[mantari]

nirvana - comments noted:)

I think in many ways all three of us: you, DAN55 and myself are all keen to see the arrival of the X but, and I think we can all agree here, the silence from Sendo, the comments on the forums about reliability, and the constant backtracking on the delivery date is leaving us all somewhat unnerved. :confused: :confused:

If Sony Erricson came out with a smartphone not that disimilar to the X and it had a mega camera... i would need to think very hard
:(

But we've not reached that point yet :)

[DAN55]

think you have got it in one mantari

i would have got the SX1, but i could use that silly keypad!
i like the 6600 to look at, but it does really do anything exciting.

we will only know for sure when when we can get our hands on the X! :)

[nirvana]

agreed. right on.
at the moment that S700 is high on my wishlist. (what's with all these weird keypads (7610, 7600, SX1?!)

[mantari]

just think merging the s700 and the X together

..now that would be interesting....:)

[nirvana]

it is interesting to think that the X would still have quite a bunch of pros over the s700 when it eventually is released i.e. flash, better memory system (not dependant on SE duo memory stick), Now! screen, speech recognition system without need for voice tags, more RAM, better aesthetics, does not have a keypad reminiscent of old motorolas, a 30fps viewfinder, GraphiX "card", SoniX card....man i could just keep on going

[nirvana]

things at sendo are just so quiet, too quiet in fact. they could at least keep us up to date with their progress (if any!). maybe they could throw in a 1.3MP camera and include a SIGNIFICANT reduction in price. i mean at this rate this bird aint never gonna fly much as i'd love it to. they are going against all the written rules of marketing and whatnot! im not sure i understand anymore, maybe im missing something?

[mantari]

Hi
Happy Easter... sorry its a bit late but I was in Rome for the holidays... Spain has the Thursday & Friday as holidays.

Nirvana, you are quite right... Sendo could make up for lost time and add a megapix camera instead of a VGA... then I think it would really do the trick

[mantari]

take a look at the specs of this then

does it come near to the X?

Motorola's Megapixel MPx100 (http://www.mobileburn.com/review.jsp?Id=705&source=HOMETOP)

[nirvana]

i saw this phone some time back and half forgot about it. for me its probably now the next best thing after the X seeing i hate the 6600 and cant stand the sx1 keys. i mean it's got some stuff the x don't have though is missing some of the X's stuff
has: 1.3MP camera, mp3 ringtones, good looking keys, Wi-Fi!!!!!!
has not: Now! screen (which i think will be a hit), miniSD can only go up to 512 (sendo X up to 1GB if im not mistaken), independent voice recognition system.
plus im not too sure about the smartphone2003 OS, ive never actually tried one so cant say for sure, i think i'd rather stick with a series 60 phone though.

[ollie]

You left a few things out:


Sendo X is smaller+ lighter
there is no mention of the MPx100's camera having zoom
It seems that the MPx100 is only capable of video playback, not capture ( going by the article on this site)
I'm not sure how readily available app's are for Windows Smartphone
The Sendo X's SoniX system


I'm still rooting for the X.

[mantari]

Me too Ollie! I'm still hanging on in there for the X:)

But its a good wake up call for Sendo!!!:mad:

For me its still the X but Nirvana is right... this Motorola could indeed make a good second choice... in a worst case scenario

But who knows what will appear tomorrow... :confused:

[ollie]

my second choice is probably the samsung d710 or the nokia 7610 at the moment.

By the way, our friend Mr van Hooren emailed me yesterday saying they were nearing completion but its release was entirely dependant on wether the networks accepted it.

hope that helps

[Michael]

Originally posted by ollie
there is no mention of the MPx100's camera having zoom
It has a digital zoom, but who cares? Those things are useless.

It has a 1.3mp camera. You don't need a zoom, even an optical one, when comparing to a VGA camera.

[mantari]

Hey guys

have a look at this thread.
megapixels vs VGA (http://forums.mobileburn.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=16086#post16086) ? :eek:

do you think its another nail in the coffin for the X :confused:

Regards :)


PS: what time zones are you all in as you all start writing just when I'm about to go home :rolleyes:

[ollie]

Well if the Sendo X isn't released pretty damn soon i think it will hav well and truly missed the boat as we are getting ever nearer to the release time of Q2 phones, which means the arrival of phones like the 7610 and the D710. These are both phones i don't think the X with its VGA cam can compete with.


P.S I'm in England, but im busy studying atm, so my posting time is severly restricted :)

[nirvana]

on the contary, i think the X will still be up there. i mean the only thing missing (that instantly comes to mind) is the VGA camera vs the 1.3MP cmaera. the X will still remain a highly competitive phone. remember it still has many pros over these coming phones which i still havent seen anywhere else: SoniX (even though i doubt how powerful this element really is), GraphiX with its 30fps capability, assisting LED (which not all new phones have), independent voice recognition system, Now! screen. however on the other hand there do exist a couple of missing things, as i mentioned previously, such as Wi-Fi which I think will become a norm in the very near future to have on a phone. plus ppl who will really be interested in hi-res images with decent zoom can always opt for a digi cam

[mantari]

what's ppl?

[nirvana]

erm....that'd be short for people

[mantari]

I C :D

It was too early I was still half asleep ;)

[dee]

What is a now screen? Any new news on the release yet? Michael I dunno if some one has asked you this before, but have you physically played/used with a Sendo X before? Like at Cebit or something? How was it?

[mantari]

michael did
go back to page 4 and see my entry 04-01-2004 02:55 PM

now screen explained in the review

[nirvana]

the now screen is/will be a, what seems to be, very handy feature. It is the default stand-by screen that lists any e-mails received, msg received, calls missed and so on as well as your most frequently used apps, most frquently visited web pages etc etc. additional panes can also be added to the now screen to suit your needs. as regards any new news, i just received an email today from van hooren (or whatever that guys name is) saying that they are making progress, but still no date. man with all this progress being made i expect them to start their own line of space rockets! I think sendo are lucky that no other worthy phones (excluding 6600 and maybe SX1) have been released till now, coz im sure most of us here would have gone for one a long time ago.

[mantari]

i propose that when it is finally released we have national public holiday... they are good at those in Spain you know?

:D

[DAN55]

other phones.....like that samsung slider maybe?!

[ollie]

Are you talking about the D410 or the D710?

I'm personally not very impressed by the D410 but i am very interested in the D710, it looks to be a great phone. All the features are there.

P.S Have any of you seen the new issue of Stuff? YThe model on the front (and in several photos in the main feature on mobiles) is clearly holding a Sendo X but there is no mention of it anywhere in the magazine! Odd!

[DAN55]

710, thats the puppy! after my success with the sl55, im pretty keen on sliders. think the 710 should be smaller and lighter than the X?

assume they must have had to pull the article when the phone didnt arrive!

[ollie]

but she's holding it! so it must have arrived!

[nirvana]

not to disappoint anyone here but the sendo x has NOT been released yet. I have received an email from Van Hooren stating that there has been a lot of progress but it is has not yet been released.

[ollie]

i know it hasn't been released, but stuff will get pre release versions.

[cdover]

The SendoX has appeared on the "What's Coming" stand at mobile phone shops here.

[dee]

How long do phones take there once they on the stand? Here in SA like 3-4 months!!

[cdover]

Originally posted by dee
How long do phones take there once they on the stand? Here in SA like 3-4 months!!

Depends, it took quite a while for the 7250 to come out, a few months. However, I didn't even see the 6230 on the "What's coming" list, and its here...

[dee]

Oh. Thanks Cdover!:)

I have said it before and will say it again. Sendo have delayed too long. There are still a few that would get the phone, but it aint anything specal like it was a year ago when it was announced.Phones like it are now in abundance. (P900, N6600, SX1, Gx-32(not symbian but still good) I dunno, but unless they do some quick change to it like a 262K screen, Mpixel cam... they not gonna get too far.

But hey thats my own stinky opinion!!:D

[nirvana]

the 262k screen is probably certainly out of the question as they already have a million and one problems with the current screen, which some quote is the recycled z100 screen, though a 1MP camera would be nice, and apart from the camera, the sendo x seems to have an advantage over all the current smartphones ON PAPER.

[mantari]

I tend to agree with Dee - a mega pixel camera would save the X from a rapid decline...

To do that, would it mean a software revision from VGA to 1MP or a physical lens change... if its physical then I guess its out of the question... but a software one could come along at any time, no?

[nirvana]

If i'm not mistaken it is indeed physical - the number of pixels depends on the size of the camera's sensor which varies for different MP cameras.

[mantari]

too bad
I guess no up grade then

I have you seen the motorola

V710 (http://commerce.motorola.com/consumer/QWhtml/products/V710.html)

I'd be very interested to know people's opinions on this one compared to the X

Thanks

[cdover]

Originally posted by mantari
V710 (http://commerce.motorola.com/consumer/QWhtml/products/V710.html)


Hey do you know if this phone has a 262k or 65k screen? (...or 4k? :D)

[mantari]

Cdover, sorry I don't but can the eye actually recognise the difference between the 2 or is it a marketing ploy? HOw many colours on a TV screen for example.... just curious ;)

[mantari]

can anyone show me the difference between the different quality of photos e.g VGA, megapixel etc etc

thanks

[nirvana]

for a start i cant stand flip phones. the v710 is a 56k phone. is it even a smartphone? plus its not a series 60 phone and it uses T-Flash memory cards which i never heard of before. it does have a 1.2MP camera though. i personally way prefer the A1000

[mantari]

that looks very interesting
Do you think it would be too big in the hand? Like the p900 or SX1?

[nirvana]

I cant seem to find any dimensions anywhere on the net re. the v710 though I very much doubt that any flip phone can be as big as the SX1 or p900.

P.S. I meant the MPx100 not A1000 in my previous post

[mantari]

MP x100 over the sendo X. I like it too...

it doesn't have video capture...

what do you like about in comparison to the X pro's con's

thanks

[nirvana]

cons of MPx 100:
- 10g heavier than sendo X
- 32MB internal memory compared to X's 64MB
- Not a series-60 phone (Smart Phone 2003) and does not support Java apps
- slightly larger than sendo X
- 3X zoom compared to X's 4X
- synch email not possible (?)
- no Now! screen
- no independent voice recognition system
- no downloadable Firmware upgrades

pros of MPx 100:
- 1.3MP camera (with assisting "flash")
- motorola have never had delays even close to the X's
- slightly slimmer than Sendo X
- originates from a company with more experience in the business
- Wi-Fi adapter (!!)

[dee]

Originally posted by mantari
Cdover, sorry I don't but can the eye actually recognise the difference between the 2 or is it a marketing ploy? HOw many colours on a TV screen for example.... just curious ;)

Yes they can. You would notice it. For instance take a pic with your phone( or upload one) on a 65K screen. Compare that to a pc ( which has a 16 million color screen-when i last checked:) ) Ok well besides for the phone being smaller, you will note the colour differences. So what it all boils down to is that a 262K screen is different from a 65K screen.;)

[nirvana]

A good friend of mine owns a Sharp GX30 which possesses a 262k screen and he says he almost can't tell the difference between the GX30 and his other phone, a SE T610 (which has a 56k screen).

[Sharp_GX32]

Originally posted by nirvana
A good friend of mine owns a Sharp GX30 which possesses a 262k screen and he says he almost can't tell the difference between the GX30 and his other phone, a SE T610 (which has a 56k screen).

Sorry pal ... your frend must be BLIND ...

Stop wasting your time here ... go get your frend an eye specialist will ya?

;)

[JaToAc]

let me post some answers here... starting with this one...

>cons of MPx 100:
>- 10g heavier than sendo X
ok, 10g make a big difference for some, but at least not for me...

>- 32MB internal memory compared to X's 64MB
the more internal the better (my xda2 has 128MB), but nothing a (mini)sd card can't fix... and the ms smartphone can make really use of this...

>- Not a series-60 phone (Smart Phone 2003) and does not support Java apps
yes, not s60, but smartphone2003, which isn't any worse then s60, if not better... java, let's see if moto delivers something here. didn't mitac ship java with it's first smartphone?

>- slightly larger than sendo X
again, makes no real big diffrence

>- 3X zoom compared to X's 4X
but it's 1.3 compared to the vga of the sendoX

>- synch email not possible (?)
sure, don't know where that's from

>- no Now! screen
but the today sreen of smartphone is the idea where the now screen comes from, sendo learned something from ms in the end

>- no independent voice recognition system
if i remeber right moto is going to support voicedial

>- no downloadable Firmware upgrades
again, where is that from. every smartphone got it's firmware update/upgrade in the past...

>pros of MPx 100:
>- 1.3MP camera (with assisting "flash")
yes, sendo only vga, but anyway, the 1.3 isn't that of an improvement, still no diggi cam

>- motorola have never had delays even close to the X's
that's a good one...

> slightly slimmer than Sendo X
not only that, it's better looking too...

> originates from a company with more experience in the business
right, but sendo sold a lot of phones (really a LOT) phones in the last years

> Wi-Fi adapter (!!)
yes, and it's not takin up the (mini)sd slot...

cu
jatoac

[mantari]

i was passed this message from our friend at Sendo about the camera:

Unfortunately, it is not that easy to just change the camera. We will offer higher res cameras in future products, but for the time being the Sendo X will ship with VGA resolution.

Hope this answers your questions.

Best regards,

Marijke van Hooren



So... whats next then... the Sendo XX???;)

[JaToAc]

no, the xXx

[mantari]

hello??

anything new on the Sendo front??

Dates... etc etc??

[DAN55]

is it 2005 yet?! ;)

[Michael]

Originally posted by mantari
hello??

anything new on the Sendo front??

Dates... etc etc?? That's almost like asking about the NeoNode....

[mantari]

hey guys.... take a look at THIS (http://www.sendo-x.com/) :)

any thoughts

[cdover]

Originally posted by mantari
hey guys.... take a look at THIS (http://www.sendo-x.com/) :)

any thoughts

The USB Docking Cradle looks nice :)

[mantari]

that caught my eye too

haha and guess what?

the bloke that sends replies from Sendo - the one that is quoted every now and then...

he's actually a she :D Marijke Van Hooren (she's dutch :) )

:eek:

[cdover]

Originally posted by mantari
the bloke that sends replies from Sendo - the one that is quoted every now and then...

he's actually a she :D Marijke Van Hooren (she's dutch :) )

Oh, how akward. He's now a she? Or has he always been a she...:D

[nirvana]

looks like finally everything is FINALLY set for the X's release! all shops in italy and spain should be stocked with plenty of sendo Xs on the 15th of next month with a later introduction in germany.

[DAN55]

but what about good old blighty?! :(

[mantari]

old blighty Dan55?... those were the days.... wind, horizontal rain, leaves on the tracks, 2 hour train journeys taking 5 hours...

I remember it well... what about it ;)

Nirvana Where did you hear that about Spain? Have you any idea about cost and carrier?

Its been a long time coming :mad: I'll believe it when I see it here in Madrid :eek:

When it was first mentioned I was going to get it as a birthday present from my girlfriend... that was in February...

If it comes out next month, in June, looks like she'll be getting it for me as a wedding present! lol Haven't things moved on...
:D

[nirvana]

how do i know? through various phone calls i got friends to make, it is now almost certain. many many shops already have batches of sendo x waiting to be delivered on their computers. it should still be around 500 euros. carrier in spain will most likely be telefonica while in italy it will come out no brand first.

[dee]

Why do I have this small feeling in my gut that the 15th of next month is a bit optimistic? Anyway... just a thought...

[mantari]

nirvana, anything new to report... new phone calls
:D

Do you think you'll get one?

AND Dan55 will you too?

When you say the 15th of next month are you referring to May or June??


Thanks

[antoine66]

Anyone have a clue when it will be released in the US and for how much?

[DAN55]

mantari:

ah, birthdays in feb and boxes containing shiny new sendo Xs! that is the stuff of deams! i thinking, more likely feb 2005!! ;)

well, i still havent got a new handset, so that means im still looking. and at the mo, there isnt another smart fun that has the right stuff for me, so that is another point.

im after a particular blend of good organiser and short cuts. oh, and 65k screen and 40 chord polys obviously! :)

but cant say or sure whether id get one until i try it out my self

[mantari]

has anyone heard anything from Sendo...


I've sent a mail ages ago but no reply...

Are you sure its due for release in Madrid this month....

no one has heard of it nor have i seen a dummy model anywhere... and we are only 10 days away from this release date :confused:

[DAN55]

i sent a couple of mails to them too a few days ago, but nothing back yet. and still nothing on the site! :D

im not convinced about this middle of may release. there doest seem to be any action anywhere (shops,mags,sendo)

[mantari]

thats what I was thinking... too quiet to be true....
maybe we got the year wrong :D

[DAN55]

yeah, you are probably right there mantari!

im thinking more like june at this rate.

out of interest, what is your second choice of phone? im keen to look at the siemens S65. i know its not a smart phone, but i like my SL55 v much, and just need an upgrade to it

[mantari]

i quite like the motorola mpx100 here (http://www.mobileburn.com/review.jsp?Id=705&source=HOMETOP)

i have a siemes though and that model you mentioned seems to be going in the right direction..

what are thoughts about the mpx100 DAN55?

where are you in Old Blighty, then??

[DAN55]

yes, the mpx100 is a definite possibility. but, im trying desparately to not get a MS mobile phone!
i did have a quick look at the mpx200, and although it is only running ms2002, the now! style front screen did look good

ive also tried the nk6600, but although i like the look of the phone itself, i dont think nokia have dont enough with the UI to make it worth the swap

im in sheffield

[DAN55]

just had another loook at the mpx100 pics, and i hope they have done a better job with those bridge-less keys than siemens did on the s55!?

do you know if it is using the latest iTap version? 6.2? it sounded pretty good in a review i read somewhere

[mantari]

i quite like the idea of a MS phone as it would work in tandem with my PC & I'd be able to work with Word Docs, Outlook AND I like the idea of MP3 Ringtones...

Sheffield... i bet its raining.... :D

me? Crewe... not quiet at far... but now Madrid... which as I type is cold and wet :rolleyes:

[DAN55]

mmm...true -doesnt the X do mp3s? cant remember.

i dont actually need a smart phone. just thought it would be the best way to get the right phone with the best organiser. BUT, the third part s/w out there aint all that from what i can see. fortunately, sendo seem to have do a bit of extra work on the series 60 apps, and so its organiser has the stuff im after.
btw, do you know if there is a search function in the Xs organiser?

sounds like the weather in madrid is about the same as sheff! :D

[mantari]

the sendo has a MP3 player but that is not extended to ringtones... it would be nice to think that a future software update could update the ringtone function though..

As for search function... I've not heard anything...

[DAN55]

well i'll be happy enough with proper wav's. theyve got to be a big improvement over the mid/mmfs i have to use on my SL :(

[DAN55]

latest from sendo...

Indeed the phone most likely will be available in Spain before the UK. UK is planned for June.

Price is determined by the operator, but to give you some idea. Approx. 500 Euros without subsidy and SIM free.

Best regards,

Marijke van Hooren

[mantari]

should i hold my breath :eek:

[DAN55]

maybe

some mag in italy has just got hold of a shipping version. i dont speak italian unfortunately :(

[mantari]

do you have a link as my fiancee is in Rome?

[DAN55]

http://www.portel.it/telefonini/recensioni.asp?id=18

[mantari]

they don't say anything special. They're trying this version and seems to be faster than Nokia. The icons are the same as in a PC, most of it can be personalized.

she's obviously not interested :mad:

[DAN55]

nothing new then. ta

[Michael]

June? Geesh, that's getting later and later.

They must be having some serious problems with the Neonode....er, I mean Sendo X.

[DAN55]

im sort of hoping that it will mean that it will be really sorted? i wouldnt be impressed if it was still full of bugs when i finally got one! :(

[mantari]

I think that seems to be the general impression I've got too...

They are holding back until it's had its problems ironed-out.

Lets face it, any phone as complicated as this is bound to be delayed and have some bugs... no?

I see it more as damage limitation :D

[DAN55]

siemens sx1....very delayed -turned up eventually though

[dee]

Well I may have been intersted in the X about 3 months ago, but now it aint special anymore. What differs between it and a SX-1 or 6600? Not much. Unless they throw in a 1 MP cam or a 262K screen, Which, how well I know sendo, will delay it by another century, they aint gonna rack up the sales. Look at the 6600. It was NOT delayed and look how great the sales have been.

[DAN55]

depend what you is after. for me the X still beats the 6600 beause sendo have put more effort into its functionality. the 6600 just looks pretty standard to me. i cant see the point of buying one! its still a nice phone, but i wouldnt get enough improvements over my sl55. please dont reply with the 6600 spec. im not talking about hardcore abilities here :)

[mantari]

sendoX in Spain???

I went to a telefonica shop to see if they'd heard of it...

they showed me the sendo s330
and the siemens mc60

not bad, no?

sendo (s330) + X (design of MC60) = sendo X :rolleyes:


not exactly what i had in mind but 10 out of 10 for creative thinking!

[DAN55]

result! :D

i always find it a shock at how little people in phone shops know about the latest phones

[mantari]

so here's the latest... she's not from Denmark AND Birmingham isn't so bad..... HA! Right.... :D


I am little bit behind with my email. Yes, the plan is indeed to release the Sendo X not on the 15th, but in that time frame, in Spain. I will confirm this as soon as I know that it will indeed be released. Price approx. 500 Euros without subsidy and SIM free.

Anyway, I am not from Denmark. I am actually Dutch and I am not ashamed of living in Brum!
It is not as bad as everyone thinks. The city has done an excellent job at renovating the centre and the people are nice.

Anyway, I will keep you posted about the Sendo X.

Marijke

[DAN55]

well, i cant say anyhting about the release date....but the center of brum is pretty nice! :)

[DAN55]

To: 'VanHooren Marijke'
Subject: RE:

oh,

and is it now only available in the checked style?


Yes, checked style. Most likely first released in Spain. We will keep you
posted.

Marijke


bummer! not sure i want a checkered one?! :(

[mantari]

checkered is better than a poke in the eye, no?

not that its going to change anything...

[DAN55]

a lot is better than a poke in the eye though!

but why did they do it? and why not an option? seem rather silly to me. for me its another mark against it! :(

[mantari]

I imagine the change from metal to plastic is more a cost issue than an aesthetical one. I presume its plastic...

Check -mate?? :D

[DAN55]

plastic!! :(
it gets worse!

[dee]

Argg -yeah plastic aint cool.

Yeah DAN55, I understand what you mean you do have a valid point. lets start a friendly bet as to when it will be released. I am guessing begginig of july:p

[DAN55]

last week of june! ;)

[cdover]

What will happen: roughly mid june

What should happen: Sendo cancel the Sendo X, and all surprise us with the Sendo X2 that will have everything, AND will be out at the end of this month :D.

[jklondon]

given up with this phone, picked up a P900 and v.happy :)

[DAN55]

mm..i considered it, but too pricey and bulky for me

[dee]

Originally posted by cdover
What will happen: roughly mid june

What should happen: Sendo cancel the Sendo X, and all surprise us with the Sendo X2 that will have everything, AND will be out at the end of this month :D.

I also love to dream.....;) :D ;) OH wel..

Guys just imagine if they did scrap the X and bring out or er... announce a X2. For argumentive purposes let say they cancel the X tomorrow and announce the x2. I reckon that we will wait for it till errr what do u guys reckon. Late 2062 to early 2063:D

[nirvana]

everything's awfully quiet, even the italian forums which are usually buzzing have gone dead. anyone with any new news?

[mantari]

WAKE UP ALL :D

no news from Madrid... but its rumoured release date around 15th of this month.

BUT there is nothing in the shops, no models, pictures..NOTHING

Did you see that someone thinks they saw an article for a siemens SX2?? If it exists could be interesting, no?

[nirvana]

keep in mind that the 15th is only 3 days away, which totally rules out a release on the 15th, anyway there'd have been press releases and ads and whatever. In germany it's been postponed yet again to the end of the month. there have actually been photos that have been released that were taken with the X just yesterday. the photos are unfortunately pretty horrendous though they are pretty shaky and taken against the light.

re. the siemens X2, you must be confusing it with the Sendo X2, a piece of bull**** news invented by some italian with nothing better to do.

this wait has become totally ridiculous, sendo are just lucky that no cool phones have been released between christmas and summer (other than the 6600 and SX1 which really dont fire me up)

[DAN55]

yeah, i cant see it happening this month at all :(

as usual, no news at all frm sendo site! v poor

[cdover]

Originally posted by nirvana
re. the siemens X2, you must be confusing it with the Sendo X2, a piece of bull**** news invented by some italian with nothing better to do.

Err, well there are rumours of the SX2 aswell. Also counjoured up by an Italian site...weird.

http://forums.mobileburn.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3076

[DAN55]

well, if siemens did create an sx2 with normal keys, id be very keen! :) its the reason i have got an sx1

[mantari]

that's interesting DAN55

how does it compare an SX1 to the X?

does it have the ability to read documents, PDFs, sync with outlook?

thanks

[nirvana]

from the specs, the SX2 will definately whoop sendo x's lilly arse, though from the first images i've seen that some users have conjured up, it looks pretty ugly, puke inducing. I'd still wait for some official info on this SX2, still seems dubious.

[DAN55]

yeah, im sure the sx1 will do all that doc reading stuff. my sl55 can do all the synching with pc etc anyway. an sx2 would be the dogs i reckon!

[mantari]

i can see this forum changing its name to SX2 later in the year... and i'll be stuck in it forever waiting from one model to the next :p

[mantari]

Should we hold our breaths?:eek:

In Spain it will be released with an operator. I can give you the name in the next 2 weeks.

Best regards,
Marijke

[nirvana]

I just received an email from van hooren saying that next week she (or he? i lost track) will contact me with an exact date for the release. i hope it's not just some reply to keep our mouths shut and keep us hoping a little longer.

[DAN55]

yawn! is that an ms mobile i see before me!! ;)

[DAN55]

http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/4943.html

[mantari]

i dont know about "being the final hurdle on the road to commercial availability"

this phone's had more hurdles than the Grand National :D

[mantari]

when it finally come out I hope someone will be kind enough to show me how to unlock it ;)

[DAN55]

sim free for me! :)

[mantari]

oh yes, good point

its friday :o

[dee]

LOL

Looks like we all becoming a bit impatient!!!:D Soooo.... what happened to the release date of the 15th of this month? Probably the same as all the other dates:p I still stick to my own personal date Late July to Early August. :eek:

I wonder what Mr/Mrs/Ms Van Hooren will say in their next email? "give me four more weeks and I can give you an exact release date!;) "

[nirvana]

i will be receiving an email from van hooren next week, with an exact date being promised. late july and early august seems totally unrealistic in my opinion. id say another month, seeing no ads and commercials have been released as yet. if the interview on infosync was totally true and both hardware and software aspects have actually been finalized, it shouldnt be very long b4 operators and sendo reach an agreement

[dee]

Well let us hope so. It will be interesting to see the sales that this phone racks up.I wonder what they will be like?

[nirvana]

no doubt they will be way lower than their forecasts what with all these delays causing ppl to opt for another terminal as well as ppl opting to wait for newer and superior technology. however remember that there are many many ppl that are not following this soap-opera and who are not so into mobile technology and following the current scene who will be attracted to the X.

[Mr. Wizzz]

After reading the Infosync article about the interview, I'm guessing/hoping that Sendo have given an X to Infosync to test. It makes sense given that the hardware and software are apparently complete. Only time will tell!

Michael, have you heard anything from Sendo regarding if/when they will send you a phone to review?

[dee]

Originally posted by nirvana
no doubt they will be way lower than their forecasts what with all these delays causing ppl to opt for another terminal as well as ppl opting to wait for newer and superior technology. however remember that there are many many ppl that are not following this soap-opera and who are not so into mobile technology and following the current scene who will be attracted to the X.

That is also true. And I suppose that those people who dont follow this whole episode make up the majority. But as you say sales will not be nearly as good as they hoped for.

[Mr. Wizzz]

I thought you guys might like this....

Sendo X User Guide & Quick Start Guide

http://www.mobil.ru/download_file.php?file=3457
http://www.tomnufc.beigetower.org/sendo/X_en_QuickStart.pdf

I found it on Sendo-X.com
(http://www.sendo-x.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=7)

[mantari]

hello!
is anybody out there??

Anything new guys... all quiet here in Madrid...

[DAN55]

looks like you missed the 15th release date then! :)

not a sausage here either.

check out the sendo website for the latest news....not! ;)

[dee]

I am telling you guys my release date of July will not be too far fetched!!!!:D

[nirvana]

actually i just got an email from van hooren and guess what...according to her (or him?) sendo are shipping next week!!! the wait finally seems to be over.

[dee]

Originally posted by nirvana
actually i just got an email from van hooren and guess what...according to her (or him?) sendo are shipping next week!!! the wait finally seems to be over.

Really? that is good.

Well if it took so long to get to the Western world I shudder to think how long it will take to get to South Africa!!!!

[nic85]

next week in italy

[nocco]

I don't get it, if Sendo is ready to ship, then why haven't any of the mobile news sites gotten a review model yet?

In the movie industry, studios will sometimes bypass the critics and release a picture straight to theatres knowing full-well their movie's a bomb. In the end, they cash-in on the opening weekend sales from unknowing movie-goers who buy into the hype.

And while this analogy obviously isn't applicable to mobiles, (key-profit metrics aren't determined by opening-weekend sales), it strikes me as very curious that not one (well-known) site has (or is working on) a review yet.

[DAN55]

and why is there no news on their website?! i think they could have done a much better job with the old PR

[mantari]

but nocco you are forgetting one thing.... everyone reviewed it at the end of last year when it was first announced... and well nothing's changed since then...we are all just playing the waiting game...

As for spain, there is never any serious marketing hype...things just appear as if by magic and shop assistants tell you what you want to hear because they work on a commission basis.
Anyone who knows the big department store chain here will know exactly what I mean....

[DAN55]

but is that the case? im sure i have heard that stuff has altered since last year. apart from the exterior, i think the NOW screen has altered in some way?

[mantari]

but enough changes to warrant an expensive review in a magazine... i think everyone knows what its all about.

If the changes had been fundamental then i might have been inclined to agree...no?
:)

[nirvana]

nocco there have actually been many reviews, an extremely detailed one has just been released around last week on an italian site

[DAN55]

pitty there isnt a good english one :(

the only ones i have seen were pretty early previews, rather than full reviews

[dee]

Originally posted by DAN55
but is that the case? im sure i have heard that stuff has altered since last year. apart from the exterior, i think the NOW screen has altered in some way?

Do you know if it has been altered for better or worse? If it has been for worse then I dont get it because this is plainly a software thing so it wont make the handset cheaper 'caus they will have to make it cheaper to make this device sell-able!

[nirvana]

i haven't heard of any updates. from the very recent pics ive seen of the now screen, everything seems to be exactly the same.

[nocco]

There have been a lot of previews, yes, but if you know of any site that has reviewed an actual production model, please let me know. As much as I'm interested in the previews of a prototype, I wouldn't base my final buying decision on them.

Does anyone have that link to that Italian site that had the review? Was it a final production model they reviewed?


Originally posted by nirvana
nocco there have actually been many reviews, an extremely detailed one has just been released around last week on an italian site

[phoney]

i have heard in the uk that the networks have the phone and are testing as we speak.

[nirvana]

nocco this is as close as it gets, the phone used had the very latest SW version. i dont think it will change much from the version they used. lets just hope they improve the camera, rather horrendous results to tell you the truth.

http://www.portel.it/telefonini/recensioni.asp?id=18

[DAN55]

update from sendo

Just a few days and then you will see.

Marijke

[dee]

Originally posted by DAN55
update from sendo

Just a few days and then you will see.

Marijke

We will see what? Another extended release date?:D

[mantari]

so from that are we to believe the big day will be monday

still no signs of life here in sunny madrid

[DAN55]

who knows -maybe they are just going to post em directly to us?! :D

[mantari]

dann 55 - what was the question that gave you that reply:

Was it:
a) How's you diet going?
b)Will you be ready to join me in the mud wrestling match?
c) Is the X out soon?

:D

[DAN55]

erm, cant remember -but it cant have been c! :D

[GoingCommando]

I waited and waited and then decided to go for the Nokia 6230. Not in the same company as the Sendo X but at least it's out and I can use the damn thing.

The sendo will probably be out when I am due a free upgrade some time next year..

[Meeestre]

Hi all, a link to a Netherland review showed up at mobile-review (http://www.mobile-review.com/forum2/showthread.php?t=8845&page=2), it's quite extensive and hard to read throuth a web translator... but you'll get the picture when you see it ;)
By the way, does anyone know if there will be a version with the original metal sides, or just the one with dark-ugly-checker sides?

[nirvana]

that carbon fibre effect is way cool. unfortunately for you, it will be the only one released, prob. cost cutting solution.

[shaheen]

hmm strange. mobilesquare.com.sg just removed the sendox from coming soon list...i wonder why..

[mantari]

that's interesting shaheen

I picked up a Spanish mobile magazine here last Sunday and they said that they were removing the X from their listings until further notice... at the request of Sendo :(

So, I can't imagine what's going on there. Maybe communications are not Sendo's strong point :rolleyes:

Anyway, I'm here in madrid keeping my eyes open, my fiancée lives in Rome & keeping at watchful eye open… so between the 2 of us we’ve got the Mediterranean covered…;)

As soon as we watch sight of it you guys will be the first to know

[pauleylad]

Hi everyone, been looking at these forums for a while now and thought I would join in.
Its looking likely that the Sendo X and the 7610 are pretty much going to be released at similar times and I've got my heart set on one of the two. Which handset would you go for or are there other handsets due for June release that match these two.
Thanks a lot
Paul

[nirvana]

actually the 7610 is going to be released later than the X. the only difference between the 2 is the camera, though if you're looking for a decent camera might as well get a 3MP digital camera. plus you can upgrade the X from home with firmware upgrades, you can't do that with the 7610. also watch out for the motorola mpx220 and mpx100

[DAN55]

sendox out before 7610? i wouldnt put any money on that! ;)

what is the mpx220? hopefully a mpx200 with a nicer exterior and win2003?!

[nirvana]

according to van hooren, sendo are shipping next week. i should be receiving a confirmation on monday.

[DAN55]

maybe...maybe not

when did she say that?

btw -what is the mpx220 like?! ta

[nirvana]

she told me on mon or tue of this week. haven't you seen the mpx220?
http://www.telefonino.net/cgi-bin/dbmodelli.asp?modelid=05088&p=01
don't like it myself though, i'd much rather go for the mpx100

[DAN55]

oooo.....i like that! and only 93ish grams?
...and win2003

yeah, the 100 looks like a top phone too, but i have to think of my pocket! ;)

that is one of my concerns re the X. that why im v interested in smart clams

[mantari]

well, here we are ... Monday... and well nothing's changed...

anyone heared anything this week??

[DAN55]

there is a romour on one of the other site about a network taking orders for the X. but someone else has rubbished this say it isnt shipping yet. usual stuff i reckon :(

[mantari]

i was betting on today for a Super Launch...but as there was nothing I reverted to a super lunch ... food for thought i guess :D


Only 22 days until i get married... its so nerve racking...this waiting..... for the sendo :D

[DAN55]

nothing at all on the sendo site. must be a covert style of launch? to prevent too many people buying it!?!

where will it be, spain or italy?! ;)

[mantari]

Madrid but not like the one at the weekend.... too much red carpet for my liking :D

[DAN55]

well, congrats for the big day

[mantari]

jaja thanks... with that & the wait for the X ....

I checked a few shops on Saturday... put nothing


we could do with one of nirvana's friends giving Sendo a call or an e-mail... what do you think?

[Mr. Wizzz]

Hey

I hardly ever check the expansys site, but did so today.


You can no pre-order the phone for £300 (sim free)
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=108279

No word on release tho!

:(

Also, I don't know if you guys have seen these photos before:
http://www.expansys.com/photos.asp?code=108279

[DAN55]

they could get the picture right! that looks like the old model to me

[nirvana]

maybe in the dark gloomy depths of the alps, who knows? according to sendo italy its either the end of this month or during june, if not even they know, how on earth are we supposed to even guess at a date?! its unfortunately become one big ridiculous laughing matter.

[dee]

As I said, my date still sits at late July!!:rolleyes:

[mantari]

on the way home, last night, went to a Vodafone shop where they told me that Sendo is only working with Telefonica.... so I went to a Telefonica shop where they told me that although they hadn't heard of the X, if Telefonica was to launch more phones it would be at the beginning of June but they didn't know what.

Also Telefonica has announced today the first "servicios de videotelefonía móvil UMTS" in Madrid and Barcelona, also in the article it mentioned they had completed contracts with providers for their multimedia service "'MoviStar emoción" but didn't say who...

that it from here...oh, it's raining too!

[DAN55]

mantari: your 'soon to be misses' works for siemens mobile?! you kept that a bit quiet! :)

SX2....mmmmm......did it have proper keys?! ;)

i like siemens phones. have an SL55 at the mo, and would have got the SX1, but for those silly keys :(

they didnt see a SL65 around the office as well did they?! :D

[mantari]

DAN55
before I'm swompped with mails

her friend works for Siemens, Italy but NOT the mobile division
But he happened to see one and mentioned it in passing...

I have asked her to see if she can gleen any more info from him... but I'm not hopeful

At least we know it exists ... noticed you been to sendo-x.com furum too ;)