Sendo X

[IRONLUNG]

Originally posted by antoine66
Are u the same Ironlung thats on hofo forums? If so u dont sound as confident as u were on the other site of a release date for the X.

Yes I am. I was just saying what others have been saying...the truth is I don't know when it'll be out. I tyring to keep the faith here...but the more and more I have to wait, the more and more my faith fades away...

[flipitw]

Does anyone know for sure that the X has a 3.5mm jack? Because there is a thread on all about symbian that seems top suggest that it doesn't.

[IRONLUNG]

I thought it does. From the looks of the pics on their website, on the side, looks like there is a 3.5 mm jack...

[flipitw]

Thats for the handsfree headset, I looked in the quickstart guide. The headset is stereo, but I doon't think you could just plug any standard headphones into the handsfree jack.

[IRONLUNG]

I just notice at the sendo website, the X is under "current phones."

[nirvana]

lol, what a joke! :D its under current phones yet still has "The actual finish and appearance of the accessories may vary. This product is not yet commercially available."

[IRONLUNG]

Let's just hope that its this much closer to release!

[flipitw]

I'm pretty sure its always been a current phone...

[IRONLUNG]

DOH!

[antoine66]

Originally posted by IRONLUNG
DOH!

I second that. There is just no hope in site.:(

[dragon-tmd]

The X has a 2.5mm headjack and NO 3.5mm one! The X is NOT released yet, again a delay ...

"X - get lost, it is outdated & to expensive"

[Nico]

Normally it would have arrived in 1 store here in belgium. I went to see but it wasn't there yet:(

[Mr. Wizzz]

Originally posted by dragon-tmd
The X has a 2.5mm headjack and NO 3.5mm one! The X is NOT released yet, again a delay ...

"X - get lost, it is outdated & to expensive"

The X has got even less going for it then I thought!

[Nico]

I think they will lose a lot of potential buyers for the X if they don't bring it out soon, very soon...

Like in the next 2hours:D

[nirvana]

Originally posted by dragon-tmd
"X - get lost, it is outdated & to expensive"

i never thought i'd say this as an ex-sendo x follower, but....i completely agree

[Nico]

Indeed, it is a bit outdated due to the delay that always comes up, but in my humble opinion it is still the most complete cell phone ever.

And soms things are a bit older but it doens't make that much of a difference, or does it?

[nirvana]

For the time being yes ON PAPER, this phone is not out yet and I wouldn't be surprised if we have to wait quite a while longer. we keep saying..this has got to be it, its coming out this week bla bla bla and...surprise surprise its always postponed or something. So most complete phone on paper yes, but not for long. Next up are the brilliant motorola mpx100 and mpx220 which will eventually outperform the X.

[Nico]

You're totally correct in that point:)

And the X is constantly being delayed and I really wonder why. We're waiting about 6 months now so there had to be something that is not correct.

Maybe the x will never come out;) but I sure hope that isn't true;)

[nirvana]

maybe it will suffer the same fate as their z100, who knows? ;) or maybe it will be a neonode n1 case. :D they've screwed up big time

[Mr. Wizzz]

Originally posted by nirvana
i never thought i'd say this as an ex-sendo x follower, but....i completely agree

Same here

The new nokias both have entry prices lower or close to the X are surpass it in features. Yeah I know they are not out yet blah blah blah but the X is hardly distributed either. I was just checking the "Coming Soon" section of various british phone shops (Phones4u, The Link, CPW..etc) and there is not a whisper of the X. That French place and Expansys (pre-order) are the only places.

[nirvana]

yeah quite frankly, rather than waiting for the X that is SOON out of date and spending 500 euros on it (500 euros! come on the 6600 can be found for 400 euros) i'd miles rather wait till christmas and get the superb looking 6630 - that looks fantastic (apart from its bell shape) that will probably be going for round about the same price (500+ euros) but will have so much more to offer. unfortunately for sendo they will be introducing the phone and the very end of its 'generation' and will no longer be attractive to potential buyers. i mean come on who in their right sense wants to spend 500 euros on a phone when ina couple of months time newer and way better phones are coming out for the same price!

[Nico]

Suppose that the X will come out in June (2 weeks from now). At that particular moment there will still be no other phone that matches the specifications of the X. At least not when I have forgotten a model:) . And the 6600 is a good phone, no doubt about that, but thr X is so much more then the 6600. All small details but for me they are important.

And I've been waiting for so long now and I'm really eager to get a phone:(

Anyhow, I still have to work during the holidays to have enough money so I don't really care that the X isn't out yet:) . But when it's commercially released and there ar other phones on the market I willl think twice beofre buying the X. It all has to be seen at that moment.

[nirvana]

erm...we are in june. one phone is the 7610 even though not many people are keen about it. plus would you rather overspend 500 euros on the X rather than waiting a month or two maximum and spend 500 euros on something much better?

[shaheen]

frankly speaking i really got no idea why there are 35 pages already in relation to this phone...wats so gd about it?..i mean its functions are basically present in alota phones these days, the design is fairly alright but still not spectacular, from wat ive seen of the phone, its extremely thick(lks like its got a huuge butt).. yea its nice but seriously guys, lk at the present future, dont keep biting yer nails over this phone, there are many other phones now that beat the sendo x hollow. didnt mean to come into this phones thread and rag on it but i just really cant see why u guys are so into it..

[nirvana]

actually at the moment the sendo x is the most complete phone ON PAPER, winner hands down (maybe except its camera, the 7610 being top here). its just that its going to be knocked off the top spot in a month or two - clearly not worth buying it at this point in time.

[Mr. Wizzz]

We should talk about the football instead! :D


I'm gunning for Czech to win
Italy, France, Czech and ? for the Semis

Who do you guys reckon will win?

Sweden did okay in their first game! :D

[Nico]

Originally posted by nirvana
erm...we are in june. one phone is the 7610 even though not many people are keen about it. plus would you rather overspend 500 euros on the X rather than waiting a month or two maximum and spend 500 euros on something much better?

I meant july:$

And you've got a point:). I guess sendo is making a big mistake by delaying the X constantly. They plan to sell over a million of the phone. Wonder if they reach it...

@shaheen: you're right to, the phone is not superb at everything but it has a lot capabilities. And so far I really like the phone:) .

But we'll have to wait and see wich phones are availeble at the time the x comes out.

[nirvana]

Wizzz i'd say Greece, France, Italy, Czech

[flipitw]

I have just found a huge amount of information on sendo's help area regarding the sendo x. Click here to see the 12 pages of questions and anwers (http://sendo.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/sendo.cfg/php/enduser/std_alp.php?p_sid=h6DC48eh&p_lva=97&p_li=&p_page=1&p_prod_lvl1=24&p_prod_lvl2=19&p_cat_lvl1=%7Eany%7E&p_cat_lvl2=%7Eany%7E&p_search_text=&p_new_search=1).

[dragon-tmd]

Originally posted by Mr. Wizzz


IMO, the only thing going for the Sendo is...
1) 3.5mm Headphone jack (however...not too important for me anymore as i'll prob get mp3 player)
2) Now Screen

IMO, the mumbo jumbo about a Graphix chip is a load of rubbish! lol! I'll have to see it to believe it! The screen doesn't look too good either, the 7610 screen reminds of me of my iPaq!



The X has a standard 2.5mm headjack NOT a 3.5mm one, just check the official FAQ on the sendo site (and I have seen it)

The 7610 screen is superb, in my humble opion better than the X one (if have seen both)

[flipitw]

Yeah I know that now, I read all the FAQs on their site last night. I also emailed them about the Xs release date because I still think that it sounds like an awesome phone.

[DAN55]

oh no...the siemens sl65 has just been announced -that could be me guys! ;)

[flipitw]

It wouldnt be series 60 though, would it?

[DAN55]

nope - but i cant find any decent s/w for the series 60 anyway :(

[flipitw]

There's loads! Try handango or just search google, that's what I did. I dont like the look of that phone so again I'm sticking to the X :)

[DAN55]

not decent organisers there isnt? i dont like the way series 60 stuff handles the reminders (ie: they just disappear from the screen if you dont catch them within the 2 mins period)

[flipitw]

Ah ok. But do you think the sl65 will be any better?

[DAN55]

yes! i assume it will be as good as my sl55, but with 65k screen (slightly larger) and 40 chord polys etc. they might even have sorted the days/hours reminder pain?! :(

[nirvana]

hey dan you can use mirc, you can find any and all files there. if you don't know how to use mirc the very best site for s/w is *******.com, you'll find everything you need. btw what d'you think about the new 6630? now that's a phone!

[Nico]

That phone won't be out before x-mas, so that's a pretty long time you have to wait...

And there will always be better phones to come out a few months later, in my opinion you can wait for ever to buy the perfect phone.

[DAN55]

thanks nirvana, i'll have a look. the 6630 does look v interesting, but one for next year i reckon

[DAN55]

nirvana: oh, what is mirc and what does it do? ta

[nirvana]

its whats called an IRC: internet relay chat, basically chat. you can also download stuff from it. there are a couple of 'rooms' specifically for mobile stuff where you can find everything for your mobile, i find it so much better than kazaa or imesh and all the rest.

[DAN55]

ah, i see - ta

[DAN55]

had a look, but nufink there that i could see. bye bye sendo! :(

[nirvana]

Originally posted by DAN55
had a look, but nufink there that i could see. bye bye sendo! :(

have a look where? for what?

[DAN55]

at *******.com for some sort of missed reminders s/w

[dragon-tmd]

Sendo has shipped the X:

Sendo today announced that it has begun shipping its highly featured multimedia smartphone, the Sendo X to France, Italy, the Netherlands, Portugal and Spain during June, with full rollout continuing over the summer months.

Source: www.sendo.com

[nirvana]

unfortunately they've missed the boat

[flipitw]

If it gets a good write up then I'm still buying it.

[nocco]

I don't suppose that means there's a review of the X coming soon?

Admins?

[Matthia]

Originally posted by nirvana
unfortunately they've missed the boat

Nirvana, I don't understand you.

Where Sendo X missed the boat? Also today Sendo X is among better mobiles, perhaps the best of Syambian series 60 (no UIQ).

Pro:
- elegant style;
- great materials;
- compact, little mobile;
- great display (you can set luminosity! We have seen it!)
- great hardware;
- audio stereo with very good output quality;
- MP3 player built-in;
- Opera html browser built-in;
- great Now! feature;
- more stored memory (32MB for user);
- SD/MMC;
- USB/IrDA/BT;
- good VGA camera for mobile (perhaps same like 6600 lens);
- led flash for night photos;
- vivavoce, good recognize voice system;
- audio recorder;
- already good compatibility with existent programs and games (our friend got test Sendo X and compatibility was 50%, while other our friend with commercial Sendo X version compatibility is 85-90% with various java and SIS games, Picodrive, SmartMovie, ETI, etc etc...);
- firmware upgrades from house!!
- graphics processor power;

Minus:
- For now only 4.5MB of free RAM;
- no MIDP v2.0;
- no themes function built-in, only more wallpaper for all panels of Now!. But I think that it will be out a tool;
- no 1MPixel photo (but personally I think it is no need: 7610 and GX30 got lens better but now they are too far from digital cameras, and it just seem only zoom photo like PhotoAcute does...). Then, better waiting for better lens that better resolution;
- camrecorder very low resolution (but 176*148 is low for all mobiles...);
- on test version benchmark is not too good, but menù, applicationd and games run good.

Conclusion:
- For now only problems for most nG@ge games and MIDP v2.0, but a great thing about Sendo X is upgrade firmware through internet and they will better free RAM and benchmark.

Then, I think that Sendo X is *globally* and perphaps better choice.

[cdover]

Er, I *think* he was being sarcastic saying that they had missed the boat to ship the phones (seeing as how they seem to have delayed so much...)

[Mr. Wizzz]

Originally posted by nocco
I don't suppose that means there's a review of the X coming soon?

Admins?

Don't be so silly. This is Sendo we are talking about

[DAN55]

anyone know of a firm what will write functions for series 60?

ta

[Jantjuhhhhhh]

I found the Sendo X in Holland in an advertisement. Complete with GPS navigation software it was EUR 799,- without sim-lock.

They gave no specifications...

[Nico]

€799:confused:
that's even more expensive than the P900:confused:

Here in belgium it's in promotion in the makro for €499 but it still hasn't arrived yet. But I wonder how much it will cost without the promotion:confused: :confused:

[flipitw]

Yeah I'll be basing my purchase of the Sendo X on a few reviews, some from websites but also in some UK phone magazines maybe.

[mOE]

It's weird that it just came out now, cause a couple of months ago i read a review for the Sendo X on What Mobile, or W@t Mobile... but it just never came out and they usually review the phone about a month before it's commercial release... (It wasnt much of a review though, just gave me info I already know about the phone)

[flipitw]

Just one of those preview things, like mobile burn and a few other websites had up. But when the phone's been out for a while we will hopefully get some good, long reviews.

[mOE]

ur right, ive been waiting for this phone for a while ever since i found out about it, but if its overpriced im definetly not. (for instance the Nokia 7610 is overpriced here its about $760)

[nocco]

Originally posted by Mr. Wizzz
Don't be so silly. This is Sendo we are talking about

Silly of me to expect a mobile phone news/review site to review the much-hyped X, esp. now that it's officially released?

[Jantjuhhhhhh]

Originally posted by Nico
€799:confused:
that's even more expensive than the P900:confused:

Here in belgium it's in promotion in the makro for €499 but it still hasn't arrived yet. But I wonder how much it will cost without the promotion:confused: :confused:

The pre-order cheapest I could find was something around EUR 520,-

But the 799,- one included a navigation software package, MMC card, carkit, data cable etc. But even with that it's very expensive indeed.

[flipitw]

Originally posted by nocco
Silly of me to expect a mobile phone news/review site to review the much-hyped X, esp. now that it's officially released?

I didnt understand Mr Whizz's post either...

[dragon-tmd]

Originally posted by Jantjuhhhhhh
The pre-order cheapest I could find was something around EUR 520,-

But the 799,- one included a navigation software package, MMC card, carkit, data cable etc. But even with that it's very expensive indeed.

It's not only software package, it is also a HARDWARE GPS inckuded, the package is Route 66 with a great map on MMC and a GPS!

This alone costs about 350 EUR! So it's not that expensive if you like BOTH :-)

BUT belcompany can not deliver it YET, as it is not in their stock! Makro can not deliver it YET, it is not in their stock!

No one ca, since it is on it's way to the distributors now.

Just wait one week and you'll see it in the netherlands even at belcompany :)

[IRONLUNG]

Expansys has preorder prices in the range of 299 euros.

[Mr. Wizzz]

Originally posted by flipitw
I didnt understand Mr Whizz's post either...

i.e. Sendo are so slow they wouldn't bother dishing out their phones for a review before it was too late

[flipitw]

They are currently testing the phones in the UK, and Sendo expect a July/August release.

[IRONLUNG]

Does that mean the SIM free ones will be out even later? I'm wondering if online shops like expansys will get it the same time the providers do or are they next in line?

[flipitw]

I hope they will all released at the same time. Hopefully they will release the Sendo X as soon as they can, after all while the phones arn't on the market Sendo are losing money, not making it!

[Sid]

Originally posted by Mr. Wizzz
i.e. Sendo are so slow they wouldn't bother dishing out their phones for a review before it was too late

You've got no idea what you're talking about.

Anyway, we are trying to get a review unit from Sendo. Let's hope they respond to our request.

[flipitw]

Good luck Sid, a review of the X would be awesome!

[dragon-tmd]

Originally posted by IRONLUNG
Does that mean the SIM free ones will be out even later? I'm wondering if online shops like expansys will get it the same time the providers do or are they next in line?

There is a rollout strategy at Sendos:

FIRST the operators, they made contracts with
SECOND the distributors offering the sim-free versions
THIRD the testing units for developers
FOURTH the review units ...

There are so many reviews already, i don't know what you want to know new ....

[flipitw]

There are 2 reviews I think, both not in english and both not of the final Sendo X. So a proper comprehensive review is definitely needed.

[IRONLUNG]

Originally posted by flipitw
There are 2 reviews I think, both not in english and both not of the final Sendo X. So a proper comprehensive review is definitely needed.

Yeah, what he said...

[Nutzu]

i found it for sale on this 2 sites:
http://www.netbytemall.com/
http://www.andando.it/
to bad is for italy an rest of the europe,damn:mad:

[IRONLUNG]

Originally posted by Nutzu
i found it for sale on this 2 sites:
http://www.netbytemall.com/
http://www.andando.it/
to bad is for italy an rest of the europe,damn:mad:

You can always order it from an online store...

[Nutzu]

Originally posted by IRONLUNG
You can always order it from an online store...
????what are u saing??i'm in canada so i can't order it doh:confused:

[IRONLUNG]

Originally posted by Nutzu
????what are u saing??i'm in canada so i can't order it doh:confused:
Try expansys.com...

[Nutzu]

Originally posted by IRONLUNG
Try expansys.com...
is here for pre oder for 3 months,even the k700i is for pre order so i have to wait another 3 months at least until expansys is gonna bring it

[IRONLUNG]

3 months? I don't understand.

[Nutzu]

never mind:o

[mantari]

dan55 & nirvana:

as you know i've been away for 2 weeks...
did it get to the shops.... could you possibily bring me up to date on all the latest?

Look forward to hearing from you soon

PS Did either of you buy one or have actually seen one?

[nirvana]

mantari nothing much has happened, they say they've shipped to some countries i.e. italy, spain etc etc but no one has as yet laid their hands on one to my knowledge. iv got the 6600 now after waiting an eternity for the X and im highly satisfied and now im looking forward to the fab 6630.

[flipitw]

First impressions: Sendo X (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=16843)

It's just a gut feeling but the X feels slightly faster than other Symbian handsets

They also recommend the phone :)

[Nico]

Indeed, thay say that it's a wonderfull phone, but the only disadvantage is the DRM. I mailed to sendo about this and they told me that I would be able to use MMS as on any other mobile
phone. And here they say that it isn't possible...:confused:

Does anybody know anything more about this DRM?

[flipitw]

My Samsung e700 has some form of digital rights management. If I download a ringtone then I can't send it to anyone, but thats kind of fair and it's not really that annoying or a big deal.

[nirvana]

a gut feeling?!!! on a recent test the X actually came up as slowest in comparison to the p900, SX1, 6600 :(

[flipitw]

Really? Wheres that info from? :confused:

[nirvana]

it was quite some time ago, i read about it in some other forum i cant exactly remember which

[dragon-tmd]

Originally posted by nirvana
mantari nothing much has happened, they say they've shipped to some countries i.e. italy, spain etc etc but no one has as yet laid their hands on one to my knowledge. iv got the 6600 now after waiting an eternity for the X and im highly satisfied and now im looking forward to the fab 6630.

No quite sure, since you can buy it in Netherlands at BC with Route66 package NOW ....

If you like to pay 799 EUR not subsidized ...

Too much for such an old phone :D

[nirvana]

news update: italians have just got their hands on a sendo x, pics provided on another site

[pauleylad]

Do you have a link nirvana please?
Cheers

[nirvana]

http://www.forumfree.net/?c=19321&act=ST&f=190403&t=1600886&st=15

[pauleylad]

Nice one,
I'll keep my eye on that site for pics of it out of the box.
I was all but sure I was going to get a Sendo X but the arrival of 7610 has put me in doubt.
Want to see some reviews of the X before I make my decision.
Does anyone know of the best translation website fot Italian to English by the way?
Cheers

[nirvana]

www.freetranslation.com
there are loads of reviews, some of them with the very-near final product which means that nothing much will change. the dutch and french review seemed extremely comprehensive, those two were in fact with the final product..

[pauleylad]

This might be a silly question but will you be getting one nirvana going off the info you have heard?

[nirvana]

from what i heard its a brilliant phone, save the worrying ram issue and the odd usual niggling problems. im not going to get a sendo x myself, i got fed up of waiting for it after nearly three quarters of a year and got a cheap 6600 instead which is still an extremely valid phone and which suits my requirements much more and am now waiting for the ass kicking 6630 or possibly an SX2. plus ~500 euros is too much considering what you can get with 500 euros in a months time ex. motorola mpx100

[nocco]

Finally, a review of a production model:

AAS Review (http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/reviews/review2.php?id=105)

Overall very positive, but the reviewer failed to mention anything about the battery-life, sound-quality of normal calls, and the usability of its advanced speech recognition app (which was one of, if not THE biggest draws for me).. oh well, supposedly they'll be adding more to the review later on this week.

Admins, any luck on securing a review model yet from Sendo?

[flipitw]

Yay :) That's a great review, very positive. Just what I wanted to hear!

[dragon-tmd]

Movilstar in spain and BelCompany in Netherlands canceled the Sendo X, it will not be released by them within some weeks!!!!

This phone seems to be a "running gag"!

[flipitw]

Why have they delayed the launch?

[nirvana]

smartmovie jams while playing films and wont work unless you play a silent film. wasn't the screen supposed to be brighter than the 6600's, well apparently its not :confused:

[nic85]

i've bought it!!!

[nic85]

look.

[pauleylad]

Whats it like Nic?
Screen, speed etc.
Cheers

[IRONLUNG]

Originally posted by nirvana
smartmovie jams while playing films and wont work unless you play a silent film. wasn't the screen supposed to be brighter than the 6600's, well apparently its not :confused:

Can't this be fixed by firmware updates/upgrades??

I hope that there is nothing REALLY wrong w/ it...

[nirvana]

prob. not so sure about screen though, however its not like there's a world of difference between them.

[Matthia]

Originally posted by IRONLUNG
Can't this be fixed by firmware updates/upgrades??

I hope that there is nothing REALLY wrong w/ it...

Nirvana, I got it like Nic85, we are italians...

Screen for me is very brilliant, you can set it, and very sharp more of 6600!

We try for now with SmartMovie, and for now works only without audio, but we resolve it :) And already there is a new firmware download!!! :) They are initials problems for a new product on start...

For now, little problem of some compatibility, but it's normal, and few slow (but only a bit) midlets, then all ok!

And "these performance" will be better for future firmware. while navigation and other things are speed!

This smartphone is exceptional, for now has only initials problems like all, with future upgrading it'll became number one :)

[IRONLUNG]

It's awfully quiet in here...

[mantari]

Bad news from Madrid....:eek:

Indeed Telefonica has cancelled/suspended their quota of Sendo X

I just went to a shop who had been expecting a delivery this morning and she'd called Telefonica as it hadn't arrived and they confirmed the bad news...


where do I go from here :(

[nirvana]

would you consider ordering it from some italian site?

[mantari]

to be honest
the longer this farce goes on the more unsure I feel about it...

If indeed Telefonica has pulled the plug on the order... it makes me feel very uneasy to order one from overseas without even seeing it. Maybe telefonica cancelled for technical reasons...we don't know... but until I see one being sold here in Spain "in the flesh" I will wait... and as we've all said before... each waiting day brings along something new... and sooner or later it will be the SX2

Its amazing that after announcing that they were shipping to Spain the order was stopped.... doesn't exactly fill me with enthusiasm for Sendo

[mantari]

should I pay attention to this X700 from Panasonic as a possibe substitute or wait a little longer for a siemens surprise? :confused:

[nirvana]

well its a known fact that siemens are planning a successor to the SX1, the SX2. from the early specs i could find it seems impressive but its planned for a christmas release, nothing earlier. it will probably be released in time to compete with the 6630 - those will be 2 phones to watch out for.

[Nico]

I think it's really st*pid...

1st sendo delayes the phone
2nd, now that the phone is being shipped, there are very few stores wich will be selling the phone
3rd i still don't know where I will be able to buy it. Not one single shop here even knows the X exists:mad:

[antoine66]

The soap opera continues...........
:(

[flipitw]

Stupid isn't that bad a word... But poor sendo :( Poor us, we want the phones!

[nirvana]

actually stupid might not be such a bad description, i mean come on they've been going against the general rules of marketing ever since they announced it (way back in september of last year), and now that they've announced that its shipped, its nowhere to be found (except the odd italian shop), they've got to do much better than this if they intend to lure future customers, not forgetting the monster companies' competition like nokia, SE etc.

[mantari]

I agree totally with you nirvana

the people who make the marketing decisions should be out

Instead of being a name renowned for quality unfortunately they remembered for their failings to put words in to actions..

very poor show Sendo!!

[dragon-tmd]

Well,

Telefonica and BelCompany canceled the X because of ONE big reason:

There are not enough devices to get. In fact Sendo has major problems with producing enough devices at the moment!

As you all may know, Sendo is a very "small" mobile company. NOKIA and the other are always getting spare part earlier than Sendo does.

So some parts are missing at the moment to complete the phone faster. THAT is the reason, why Sendo is not able to deliver the phone in big quantities at the moment.

And THAT is the reason, why Telefonica and BelCompany canceled their orders now.

Just wait another 14 days and the X will be available in bigger quantities.

Another thing: If you buy a X from Italy, you'll have NO guarantee outside of Italy.

Sendo is not NOKIA, there is no EUROPE wide guarantee. You'll buy it in Italy, you'll have to send it to Italy in case of errors! You'll buy it in spain, you'll have it send to spain ....

In Germany the X will be released up to Kw 30!

[flipitw]

Originally posted by nirvana
actually stupid might not be such a bad description

Originally posted by Nico
I think it's really st*pid...


Nooooo. What I meant in my post was that Nico didn't have to censor it.

[nirvana]

Originally posted by dragon-tmd
Well,

Telefonica and BelCompany canceled the X because of ONE big reason:

There are not enough devices to get. In fact Sendo has major problems with producing enough devices at the moment!

As you all may know, Sendo is a very "small" mobile company. NOKIA and the other are always getting spare part earlier than Sendo does.

So some parts are missing at the moment to complete the phone faster. THAT is the reason, why Sendo is not able to deliver the phone in big quantities at the moment.

And THAT is the reason, why Telefonica and BelCompany canceled their orders now.

Just wait another 14 days and the X will be available in bigger quantities.

Another thing: If you buy a X from Italy, you'll have NO guarantee outside of Italy.

Sendo is not NOKIA, there is no EUROPE wide guarantee. You'll buy it in Italy, you'll have to send it to Italy in case of errors! You'll buy it in spain, you'll have it send to spain ....

In Germany the X will be released up to Kw 30!
well then if they knew that they didn't have enugh parts why did they proudly announce that they are shipping and raise everyone's hopes all over again, they should have delayed it once more to make sure they could ship in quantity, how totally unprofessional. i'm sorry but in my view they've made total clowns of themselves. if you're an emerging mobile company, coming into a business, looking to make a name for yourself (and a good one), where there are 3 companies (nokia SE siemens) that have a virtual monopoly over everything you make sure that you get everything right first time round, no margins for error. this has evidently not been the case with sendo. they're lucky the z100 case went virtually unnoticed.

[mantari]

Good point nirvana

I found that hard to swallow as well...

maybe we should send our CVs to their jobs e-mail and offer our services as Marketing Manager...

[nirvana]

:D

[dragon-tmd]

Originally posted by nirvana
well then if they knew that they didn't have enugh parts why did they proudly announce that they are shipping and raise everyone's hopes all over again, they should have delayed it once more to make sure they could ship in quantity, how totally unprofessional. i'm sorry but in my view they've made total clowns of themselves. if you're an emerging mobile company, coming into a business, looking to make a name for yourself (and a good one), where there are 3 companies (nokia SE siemens) that have a virtual monopoly over everything you make sure that you get everything right first time round, no margins for error. this has evidently not been the case with sendo. they're lucky the z100 case went virtually unnoticed.

Agreed, but Sendo did his best. Some parts could not be delivered in time, thats all.

And you CAN buy the X, just buy it in Italy and you'll have it NOW! Secondly, there are ONLY a FEW people aware of the X and Sendo.

So the majority of customers will not notice the delay and other things about the X!!!

So what to moan about?? Buy it or leave it!!!

I myself have the N7610 and can play with the X of a friend. Both are in their ways "unique". The 7610 is a stylish phone to show off. The X is a GREAT phone to keep in touch with people (voice quality, SOUND QUALITY, email, etc. .... ).

YOU choose what suits you best.

N7610 ~ 499 EUR
Sendo X ~ 499 EUR

If you want a plain phone, buy yourself the SE K700i, which is - besides the very short standby and speech time - the best phone i've seen so far :D

[nirvana]

and what's that supposed to mean, that the people aware of the X don't matter? plus i'm sure the X will turn out to be a great phone, its not the phone that i'm talking about, or moaning about as you kindly put it, as I used to be a firm follower of the X, it's sendo, as a company, that i'm 'moaning' about.

[DAN55]

ive canned the X im afraid. my p900 should be speeding its way to me now! :)

[nirvana]

nice one! ;)

[DAN55]

thanks. i figured out that UIQ was much better for me, so that unfortunately cut out the X (and all other series 60s)

lots of nice s/w for uiq ;)

[efocal]

Originally posted by dragon-tmd
Well,

Telefonica and BelCompany canceled the X because of ONE big reason:

There are not enough devices to get. In fact Sendo has major problems with producing enough devices at the moment!

As you all may know, Sendo is a very "small" mobile company. NOKIA and the other are always getting spare part earlier than Sendo does.

So some parts are missing at the moment to complete the phone faster. THAT is the reason, why Sendo is not able to deliver the phone in big quantities at the moment.

And THAT is the reason, why Telefonica and BelCompany canceled their orders now.

Just wait another 14 days and the X will be available in bigger quantities.

Another thing: If you buy a X from Italy, you'll have NO guarantee outside of Italy.

Sendo is not NOKIA, there is no EUROPE wide guarantee. You'll buy it in Italy, you'll have to send it to Italy in case of errors! You'll buy it in spain, you'll have it send to spain ....

In Germany the X will be released up to Kw 30!

What do you mean with "up to Kw 30"?

[dragon-tmd]

This means, the X MAY arrive next week, but it will arrive within 14 days ...

[DAN55]

my p900 has just arrived! :)

[nirvana]

Originally posted by DAN55
my p900 has just arrived! :)
first impressions? oh and price?

[DAN55]

absolutely spankin! :)

the price...a bit painful! £349+15pm :o

[dragon-tmd]

Originally posted by DAN55
absolutely spankin! :)

the price...a bit painful! £349+15pm :o

As you may know, I also have the P900 (now nearly for about 6 Months, payed 699 EUR). It IS a great device, if you prefer a PDA with a mobile option.

BUT, the P900 is really big, you'll need your pencil to control since it has a touch screen. You'll have to buy Memorysticks Duo (biggest of I know are 256 MB?).

And the P900 is MUCH more expensive than the X. It is a whole different concept (UIQ) based on a newer System (Symbian 7.0).

You won't compare the X with a P900, won't you? ;)

The X and the P900 have different customer groups.

Now I'm getting rid of this big thing in favour of the X. If I want to have a PDA; I'll wait for the N9500 which is the BEST PDA/Mobile I know of. Just read the review over at my-symbian.

[mantari]

I see its finally edged its way into Spain as its available in the Sendo "Phone Retailers (http://www.sendo.com/buy/retailers.asp) " page... unfortunately its only available to purchase over the web... interesting to see the price varies between countries too!


Michael Question: I don't seem to receive E-mail Notifications for my posts when the box is ticked, any ideas why not

[Nico]

Does anybody have some more news on the release-date in Belgium? I just a respons from a shop trough e-mail and they where saying that they are not going to sell the X, and I've heard this news from a few other shops to:rolleyes:

Why will practically no shop be selling it?

EDIT: There is one shop here in Belgium which will be selling it, it should be there by the 23th of July. Keer your fingers crossed;)

[mantari]

I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the Sendo Marketing Dept :D

Looks like I'll be wating for Santa at this rate.

I've missed all the other dates I'd set for a purchase :(

Eyes down for the SX2 I guess

(Nico: there is only one X but there's plenty of mistakes ;) )

[dm1]

the SFR flagship store here in Paris selling the X, but only locked to SFR, no unlocked available. i think i'm going to give up and by a 7610 or similar, this is ridiculous.

[dm1]

so i broke down and bought the X. here in Paris at the Fnac store, unlocked for 499 euros (plus I will get 60 euros back or so from the tax return at airport). so far impression is really good. my first experience with Series 60. it is a touch slow, but very customizable (is that a word?) and the OTA wap mms settings from sendo.com are very helpful. here in france I am using it with Orange, I will be in the US with t-mobile next week, so I can give an update from there....

[wwwebber]

Originally posted by dm1
so i broke down and bought the X. here in Paris at the Fnac store, unlocked for 499 euros (plus I will get 60 euros back or so from the tax return at airport). so far impression is really good. my first experience with Series 60. it is a touch slow, but very customizable (is that a word?) and the OTA wap mms settings from sendo.com are very helpful. here in france I am using it with Orange, I will be in the US with t-mobile next week, so I can give an update from there....

Nearly - Customizable should be spelt Customisable !!

[efocal]

I just bought the 7610.
I couldn't wait any longer!

[plinkykev]

Hi All,

Saw this site mentioned on the All-About-Symbian forum selling the Sendo X.
£298 including VAT & Delivery. It comes from Paris so therefore has a Euro plug charger, so you will need an adaptor for UK/US

http://www.pixmania.co.uk

Regards,

plinkyKev

Seen here: http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27048

(lots of other Sendo X stuff there too)

[quartus]

Review on the X is up on infosyncworld.com:

http://www.infosyncworld.com/reviews/n/5271.html

[xerxes]

I bought a Sendo X from Pixmania last week.

This phone is incredible! The phone works really well and the MP3 player sounds fantastic.

The only thing I'd like is to be able to reduce the font size so that I can see more characters across the screen, particularly in the calendar day view and the MP3 player.

I'm sure there are a few things that can be improved with firmware but I really haven't found any show stoppers at all. Even the battery life is better than I expected.

[shaheen]

maaaan, i wana hit you, i want this phone so badly..its hot man! congrats, have fun

[quartus]

I bought a Sendo X from Pixmania last week.

This phone is incredible! The phone works really well and the MP3 player sounds fantastic.

The only thing I'd like is to be able to reduce the font size so that I can see more characters across the screen, particularly in the calendar day view and the MP3 player.

I'm sure there are a few things that can be improved with firmware but I really haven't found any show stoppers at all. Even the battery life is better than I expected.

You have the phone. Man, you're lucky.

How does the graphics work? It's supposed to be prioritized in the hardware and the viewfinder should update in 30 fps when you take pictures.
Is it good enough to watch movies on it?

[xerxes]

The camera works well, there is no lag at all between pressing the button and the picture being taken.

I cannot talk about watching movies cos I've never tried and I don't think I ever will.

I can say is that the MP3 player is extremely good. I have found loads of free games which I think are great - especially Doom. The battery is lasts two full days of normal use (for me) if I turn off bluetooth.

The voice control works really well except that you have to press the voice button before you give the command which kind of negates the point in my mind.

Synchronisation over USB seems pretty fast, not quite as fast as my Palm but better than I was expecting.

[xerxes]

As you may know, I also have the P900 (now nearly for about 6 Months, payed 699 EUR). It IS a great device, if you prefer a PDA with a mobile option.

BUT, the P900 is really big, you'll need your pencil to control since it has a touch screen. You'll have to buy Memorysticks Duo (biggest of I know are 256 MB?).

And the P900 is MUCH more expensive than the X. It is a whole different concept (UIQ) based on a newer System (Symbian 7.0).

You won't compare the X with a P900, won't you? ;)

The X and the P900 have different customer groups.

Now I'm getting rid of this big thing in favour of the X. If I want to have a PDA; I'll wait for the N9500 which is the BEST PDA/Mobile I know of. Just read the review over at my-symbian.

Aquacalendar is now in beta for Series60. When it is fully available I would see myself as not needing to carry my Palm anymore.

[neilmunn]

I'm looking at buying a Sendo X from Pixmania soon. Did it come with a UK adaptor? Also I read last night that updates would be available by networks rather than Sendo. Would this affect me in the UK, if I'm not on the correct network?

Neil

[xerxes]

It came with a French power supply and a UK socket adapter which all works fine.

All the firmware updates are distributed together from the Sendo website. You will need to apply the French update if you buy a Pixmania Sendo X. I haven't applied the update yet but it shouldn't be a problem.

[liam_hill1]

Hey, what network do you have the phone on and does it work properly? Did it come sim free as well?

[dm1]

for those who have the X, how is the RF reception? I had one, but could not stand constantly losing signal, having to reboot the phone just to make a phone call..
...just curious...

[Nutzu1]

the worse smartphone ever i had it for 2 days and i sold it right away even cheaper cuz i don't wanna keap such a crap phone even with the new FW people has a lot of problems,my advice stay away from that ****ty phone

[Thor]

I have a UK SIM free version of this phone purchased from expansys

http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=108279

The firmware is version 50f apparently, which contains a couple of minor fixes over the previous non UK firmware (50c).

I must admit, I have been very impressed with the phone, although I would definitely recommend running the phone flat out to drain the battery when you first use it to allow the power management software to calibrate correctly. I did see a couple of glitches when I first started using the phone - I couldnt view any logs as these were reported as being corrupt and an attempt to format an SD card failed - leaving the card reported as corrupt. However, I suspect this may have been due to initial problems with the battery charge (a subsequent reformat of the SD card in the phone worked OK & I have had no problem viewing call logs etc).

I have upgraded from a Nokia 8910i (Symbian series 40 OS) & although the SendoX build quality isnt the same (but given that the 8910i cost me nearly GBP 650 when it first came out, and the SendoX, GBP 355, this probably isnt a fair comparison). I do find the Symbian series 60 OS a huge improvement. The SendoX screen is also impressive.

I wasted a lot of time trying to get the built in internet browser (Opera 6.1)working via GPRS with Orange UK (but a SIM refresh fixed that).

I havent noticed any problems with RF performance.

There are still a few bugs that need to be addressed (see AAS forum for more info), but I understand that Sendo is working on these, and although no definite date has been provided, I think they are aiming for another firmware release later this month (Oct). I think the decision to provide a web based firmware update facility is a smart move.

I have installed the following apps without any problems:

Epocware HandySafe (although the desktop sync wont work with Sendo PC Connect, but am looking at a workwaround)

Psiloc Extended File Manager
Symbianware AppMan
Symbianware PowerNotes
Noumena MGS Mobile VR Pool 2

I have had problems with the following apps:

Psiloc World Traveller (problem with city database)
Viking Informatics MP3Player (wont play MP3 files! - although these work find with SendoX player)

I am talking to the developers about both of these problems.

I am not sure why Nutzu spends so much time in the SendoX forums (here, at AAS & Sendo-X.com) if he finds the phone so unpleasant!. I am sure he has reasonable objections, but unfortunately, a lot of his comments could easily be misconstrued as ranting.

I personally would recommend this phone.

[xerxes]

I got my Sendo X sim free from Pixmania. It's a French build but it took me less than 20 mins to set it up to work on O2.

It came with a French powerr adapter and a UK socket converter which works fine.

I have about 10 games installed on the phone, about 1000 contacts in the phone memory and make very heavy use of the PIM functions and the MP3 player (1GB SD card with 20 CDs ripped at 128Kb/s).

There are a couple of small bugs but I don't seem to be effected by 99% of the problems people are reporting.

When I first got the phone I charged it for overnight, ran it completely flat over the following two days. I then repeated the process two more times. It seems to have payed off as I generally get between two and three days battery life even with my MP3 habit.

In short, I think this phone is the best I've ever had - and I haven't even got around to doing the firmware update yet.

[ftasende]

Hi,
Just coming back to this thread that I originally opened.It's amazing how far it has gone.
Well,after all this waiting and being away from mobile phones for a while I am just wondering wheter the X is still a good choice.

I know it is still a very good Smart-phone(I have just read that it has been awarded with best Smart-phone of the year) but I would like to know your opinions on new models on the market or future phones that you reckon will be better than this one.

Also,I can only see the X on Orange for the UK,do you guys know if it is going to be out in any other networks?

Well,thanks for now.

[danGerMouse]

ftasende,

hi mate! i live in the uk and i was just about to order a Sendo X from expansys.com but you said above that you've seen them on orange in the uk. where exactly? it's just that i'm also on orange but i was gonna have to go to vodafone to get the phone cheaply, but obviously i'd rather stay woth Orange if at allpossible.
Cheers!

[ordxpres]

Hi everyone. I just bought Sendo X (I'm in the US). I absolutely love the phone for the looks. I do have a list of complaints though and would like to find out if anyone experienced the same.
First of all it's the French version (made in NL) firmware. Second I just upgraded it to the lates 1.56 firmware (from Sendo's site). Third of all - when I hold the phone bu the sides (above edit and voice buttons) it squeaks. Next is the Signal reception - ABSOLUTELY worst of all phones I've ever used. I installed Cell track on this phone ad held it next to my Nokia 3650 in my apartment - Sendo shows about 5% signal while Nokia 95%.... Then the phone constantly drops the signal for about 30-45 seconds.... and re-registers to the network. My Mobile operator is T-Mobile US. When I try to send an SMS from anywhere (not just my house) it usually fails the first time. Have to move it it drafts then re-send it again. Then it goes through. When I launch GPRS session - that usually causes the phone to loose the network signal for about 45 seconds. I've tried places with stronger signal (used my Nokia 3650 which has the bast reception of any phone I've used so far). Then Sendo X also reboots from time to time (but only when an application seems to hang so that may be that application's problem.

So has anyone else experienced similar problems with that phone or is my handset just a dud ????
Any replies will be appreciated - my address is ordxpres@yahoo.com


Thanks...

Matt

[dm1]

I've basically have had the exact same problems with reception and with the SMS. I wrote to Sendo, but they weren't of real help. I guess I will have to wait for some firmware update.

[ftasende]

http://www.mobiletoday.co.uk/artman/publish/article_1076.shtml

It seems that it's going to be on Vodafone soon.

[xerxes]

Ordxpress,

A lot of people on the Sendo X forum at AllAboutSymbian have reported similar issues.

Personally I haven't seen any of the problems you mention but I'm on a different network (O2) in the UK so it's hard to compare.

I don't think you are alone though.

[ordxpres]

Hi All,

Does anyone know where I can download the mentioned firmware version 50f? and if it's possible to install it on French build? I'd love to keep this phone but if it keeps going crazy as I described in my previous posting, I will have to sell it. I bought it on eBay from someone that had if for two weeks. The guy claimed he was selling it for his friend, but I doubt this was true... most likely the buggs in the software build were the issue as I got the phone with original firmware (1.3 something version)

I only hope that someone from Sendo monitors the bulletin boards on the web and makes notes of issues...If they do.... my statistics are as following:

Network - T-Mobile US
FW - 1.56 (FR)
Memory - 128MB card
All programs installed on the card

[meanmachine]

Does the Sendo X support themes?

I'm interested in getting one, but do you think I'd be able to get it anywhere for less than £200?

I don't want to read through 45 pages of replies to view everyone's opinion, so is this generally considered a good phone?


Thanks.

[ordxpres]

Sendo X does support themes... From that I know these are not the same themes as on Nokia 6600 phone as the core OS (symbian version 6 vs 7 on Nokia 6600) is a bit different. I personaly LOVE the phone. I did go through the problems but now they're solved and the phone works like a charm. An absolute beauty. Just make sure you get it from a source that will support upgrades such as Expansys.


Matt

[xerxes]

Does the Sendo X support themes?

I'm interested in getting one, but do you think I'd be able to get it anywhere for less than £200?

I don't want to read through 45 pages of replies to view everyone's opinion, so is this generally considered a good phone?


Thanks.

I can sell you mine for £200 if you like. It's a great little phone but my company's switching us all to the new Blackberries and I don't get a choice anymore.

I'm really going to miss the MP3 player and camera, especially now that the 2GB SDs are coming out!

[kitty]

HI, I have bought a sendo x but having problems!!! I cannot access the web or send mms. I am on o2 uk pre paid. Anybody any ideas before I go MAD :). Cheers

[xerxes]

Kitty,

Go to http://www.sendo.com/config/index.asp

This site will send you the configuration you need for O2 prepay as a text mesage. Just choose which type of config you want, press the button and follow the instructions.

You can use each config in turn if you want to provision for WAP, MMS, Email and Internet.

Hope this helps.

[kitty]

Cheers for replying I will give it a go :)

[jklondon]

so wheres the best place to get one of these in the UK ?

Can pick them up from a Vodafone retailer for ~£100 (payg) good ?

[konstantinos_be]

Is the sound of the Mp3 Player good compared to Siemens SX1?Is it loud enough?Does it have good bass? I mean the sound from the ear headsets, not the speaker. I have a Siemens SX1 and i want to go to something different.

[carcomptoy]

so wheres the best place to get one of these in the UK ?

Can pick them up from a Vodafone retailer for ~£100 (payg) good ?

The cheapest place would be from expansys.com...they have for under 200 pounds unlocked.

[carcomptoy]

Is the sound of the Mp3 Player good compared to Siemens SX1?Is it loud enough?Does it have good bass? I mean the sound from the ear headsets, not the speaker. I have a Siemens SX1 and i want to go to something different.

Would you be selling your SX1? I think you should upgrade to the 6630, because it has the megapixel camera, where as on the X, you'll just be basically sticking to the same phone with the same features, just different appearance!

[carcomptoy]

I have heard from Sendo! They expect T-mobile to be the U.S. carrier in late March. Can't wait, hope that it won't be any later and maybe sooner. It may be out sooner without a carrier.


From: "Walling Richard" <xxxxxxx@sendo.com> Subject: FW: New Incident - Which carrier in the U.S. do you expect to carry the Sendo X and when will it... (040107-000001)
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 20:50:31 -0000




I expect T-Mobile to be the first carrier to offer the phone.

My guess would be late March for the US.

I know this was a long while ago, but happened to this? It's been a year and still no Sendo X...only less-equipped 6600!

[carcomptoy]

Does anyone know if there's an offline or airplane mode on the Sendo X?