Most revolutionary phone ever?

[jayharcourt]

So in your opinion what phone changed the way you looked at phones? which made you think 'yeah thats amazing', which phone did you always crave for. i would have to say where i came from the nokia 3210 made everyone look, then the 3310 and the the sony ericsson T68i (first colour screen phone that im aware of freely avalable to anyone) after that its a bit hazy, but maybe nokia 7210 and its direct upgrade.

what about you?

[Jose_R.A.M]

The 7650 sticks out somehow. For quite some time it was unbeatable by features.

[Tiger33]

i think u are spot on with the sony ericsson T68i

i think that was also one of the first phones to support bluetooth



i would also put the motorola wings or startac in there too


my 2 revolutionary phones would be

Sony Ericsson T68i
Motorola Startac

[shaznizzle]

big swivel screen... quality lcd screen

[carcomptoy]

my 2 revolutionary phones would be

Sony Ericsson T68i
Motorola Startac
I agree;)

[stars]

hmmz

revolutionary in what terms ?

technological terms or in terms of popular culture ?

i think the nokia 3310 would be the ubquitious culture symbol of mobile phones.

technology wise , i think the SE T610 is the phone which really broke new ground. for me i think it represents the weaving of technology, design and connectivity into a single package and truly defined the mobile phone as a multiple convergence tool instead of something which is a mere communication device

[greenarcher]

i think it would be the 5110. everything we have now followed after the 5110.

the next transition might probably be the 7650.

[difenbaker]

So in your opinion what phone changed the way you looked at phones? which made you think 'yeah thats amazing', which phone did you always crave for. i would have to say where i came from the nokia 3210 made everyone look, then the 3310 and the the sony ericsson T68i (first colour screen phone that im aware of freely avalable to anyone) after that its a bit hazy, but maybe nokia 7210 and its direct upgrade.

what about you?


haha... silly me. When I saw the title I thought you were telling of some new phone with loads of features, that's gonna revolutionize the phone market! lol :D


... anyway, for me, first place is the 3310. It was instrumental in promoting Text Messaging (sms). Without that - mobile phones wouldn't be as famous as they are now. Texting prompted phone makers to make smaller phones, faster phones, phones that are triband and quadband, and phones with plastic keypads (not the rubber keys of the 6150). Texting introduced concantenated messaging, ringtones and graphics that can be sent to another phone. (the 3310 even had a tone composer). There was also ascii graphics (stick people, bears, birds, etc..) that grew famous worldwide. Then after that came picture messages. In its day - the 3310, and its north american counterpart, the 3390 - virtually outsold every other phone in its class.

second place, and equally revolutionary, was the T68i. Its camera paved the way to better screens, more refined cameras, and more importanly - the need for more storage space in phones.

which brings us to my 3rd place choice - the siemens SL45. It was the first ever phone to carry an MMC, and store and play mp3's. Although, it had its own format - and MMC capacities were far from what we have now, the SL45 did prove the concept that a phone can use an expansion memory card.

I think that all the phones we have now, while having double if not triple the capabilities of those 3, are still just offshoots from the trends that they started.



cheers!

[Jose_R.A.M]

Yeah, that's a fair statement.

Even though it wasnt the first to do it, it was the one that reached the majority of the public consumers.

Come to think of it, I reckon the t68 was probably the phone that made me think about them as more than just another way of talking to people...
It really did WOW me when I saw it compared to the other featureless bricks of the time.

[carcomptoy]

Actually yeah I think the 3310/3390 could be considered a revolutionary phone...it was EXTREMELY popular (heh and hence me picking the Samsung R225m over it when getting my first phone lol).

So was it the first phone with plastic keypads? I'm so glad they aren't rubber anymore!:p

[Jose_R.A.M]

I had rubber kpads for my 3310.

[carcomptoy]

It came standard with rubber keypads? Wow I've never seen that [on the 3310]...

Well, whichever phone it was that started the plastic keypad standard, thank goodness, cause you could never text as fast with rubber keypads!

[Jose_R.A.M]

No - I bought fascias for it. TONS of them! I loved the ones that TRIED to make the 3310 look like other phones! it just made it look like a fat version of what it was meant to be.

[carcomptoy]

LOL I still wanna get those conversion faceplates for mine...

So, I'm confused, did it come with the rubber keypads originally or the plastic one?

[stars]

LOL I still wanna get those conversion faceplates for mine...

So, I'm confused, did it come with the rubber keypads originally or the plastic one?

defintely the plastic one.

the rubber one is defintely non-standard issue.

the cool thing with the 3310 was the "moddability" of it. change a couple of LEDs, a housing or get the LCD inverted, voila .. like a hot modded car

[hotzigetty]

btw rubber keypad was on the 3315,...

that thing was practically indestructable..
i mean mine was run over by a bus and NOTHin happened to it..

of course the ten billionth time that i dropped it i cracked the screen..
i still have it though.. and the first cell my mom got.. ericsson somethin.. bloody brick...

[carcomptoy]

defintely the plastic one.

the rubber one is defintely non-standard issue.

the cool thing with the 3310 was the "moddability" of it. change a couple of LEDs, a housing or get the LCD inverted, voila .. like a hot modded car
When I have more money, I plan to "soup" it up all the way;):p

[brad]

No - I bought fascias for it. TONS of them! I loved the ones that TRIED to make the 3310 look like other phones! it just made it look like a fat version of what it was meant to be.
Haha, I did that as well, just for a laugh.

[Dynamoo]

The Nokia Communicator was pretty revolutionary when it came out, I guess they were the first smartphone. I think the first one I saw was a 9110 (the second generation one). I'd never seen anything like it.

Panasonic GD87 was (I think) the first camera phone.

[carcomptoy]

Is there no histograph of cellphone firsts?

[Jose_R.A.M]

Panasonic GD87 was (I think) the first camera phone.

apparently first camera phone was from sharp.

The first phone I saw with an inbuilt cam was the 7650. It was quite some time after that when I saw the gd87

[Dynamoo]

apparently first camera phone was from sharp.

The first phone I saw with an inbuilt cam was the 7650. It was quite some time after that when I saw the gd87

Oh yes, the Sharp J-SH04 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J-SH04

What about the RAZR? It's nothing special technologically, but perhaps it's the first phone that firmly put style over substance in that sort of way.

[difenbaker]

btw rubber keypad was on the 3315,...

that thing was practically indestructable..
i mean mine was run over by a bus and NOTHin happened to it..

what the? a bus??? hahaha... mine was run over by a bicycle, and I thought that that's the worst thing that could happen to it. :D


cheers!

[difenbaker]

The Nokia Communicator was pretty revolutionary when it came out, I guess they were the first smartphone. I think the first one I saw was a 9110 (the second generation one). I'd never seen anything like it.

Panasonic GD87 was (I think) the first camera phone.

I was able to use the Nokia 9000 before... turned heads everytime I dish it out. Especially since the mike and earpiece was on the other side, people thought that I was using it wrong, hahaha :D



cheers!

[carcomptoy]

What about the RAZR? It's nothing special technologically, but perhaps it's the first phone that firmly put style over substance in that sort of way.
PLEASE NO!:cool:

Besides, there were TONS of other phones that put style over substance...the Xelibri phones by Siemens for example.

I guess though I'd have to concede that the RAZR is revolutionary in that it started the SLIM craze...it is pretty amazing how Motorola made it so thin:rolleyes:

[bart]

the ericsson T68m has been chosen as the most revolutionary phone ever, by many other forums, sites and telecom experts.
benefon also had a gps phone many years ago
the sony ericsson P800 was a runner up aswell
and the ericsson R250s pro, the first and strongest phone ever build

strangely nokia never made anything that was special.
3310 is in the history books as the phone that sold the wost wordwide, exploded the most and had the most problems.

[carcomptoy]

the ericsson T68m has been chosen as the most revolutionary phone ever, by many other forums, sites and telecom experts.
benefon also had a gps phone many years ago
the sony ericsson P800 was a runner up aswell
and the ericsson R250s pro, the first and strongest phone ever build

strangely nokia never made anything that was special.
3310 is in the history books as the phone that sold the wost wordwide, exploded the most and had the most problems.
Why am I not surprised that you'd say this?:cool:

[Jose_R.A.M]

What about the RAZR? It's nothing special technologically, but perhaps it's the first phone that firmly put style over substance in that sort of way.

PLEASE NO!:cool:

Besides, there were TONS of other phones that put style over substance...the Xelibri phones by Siemens for example.

I guess though I'd have to concede that the RAZR is revolutionary in that it started the SLIM craze...it is pretty amazing how Motorola made it so thin:rolleyes:

Indeed, Xelibri definately put style over substance to the point of buying something that was just was just to idiotic to use as a phone. The V3 is about 60% Style 30% Substance and 10% hot air.

BTW what would people consider being the most special revolutionary nokia ever?

[carcomptoy]

Contrary to what bart thinks, I think it is the 3310/3390...it put phones into the people's hands, and not just into those of the fortunate. Yes, it was big and bulky and problematic at times, but hey, it helped spread cellphone usage, whether you admit or not. And that, my friends, is revolutionary:cool:

Second pick would definitely be the 7650...paved the way for a great line of phones that exemplify my motto of convergence devices:D

[brad]

3310 is in the history books as the phone that sold the wost wordwideI would SERIOUSLY doubt that.

[stephanie]

... anyway, for me, first place is the 3310. It was instrumental in promoting Text Messaging (sms). Without that - mobile phones wouldn't be as famous as they are now. Texting prompted phone makers to make smaller phones, faster phones, phones that are triband and quadband, and phones with plastic keypads (not the rubber keys of the 6150). Texting introduced concantenated messaging, ringtones and graphics that can be sent to another phone. (the 3310 even had a tone composer). There was also ascii graphics (stick people, bears, birds, etc..) that grew famous worldwide. Then after that came picture messages. In its day - the 3310, and its north american counterpart, the 3390 - virtually outsold every other phone in its class.

I agree with that. The 3310 was the ultimate texting phone before. It was fast, very easy to use, and is fully customizable too. It was a joy to own. I always get a kick when I get those funny "stick people and bears" messages -they're so funny. Yes, text messaging was indeed made famous by this phone. I hated the rubber keys of my 6110, but the plastic keys of the 3310 made it so comfortable to use.

second place, and equally revolutionary, was the T68i. Its camera paved the way to better screens, more refined cameras, and more importanly - the need for more storage space in phones.

The T68 was a texting nightmare! The signal was horrible that texts usually comes in late. Plus, it is slow and unresponsive too, the menu for texting was horribly made - just how many presses does it take to put in a period? Gosh, T68 was the exact opposite of the 3310 - it didn't make for a good texting phone at all. I bought one because I liked the colors, and it was sexy looking, like a girlie type of phone - but after a few weeks of using it, I sold it off because of that irritating menu and speed.

[hotzigetty]

what the? a bus??? hahaha... mine was run over by a bicycle, and I thought that that's the worst thing that could happen to it. :D


cheers!


Well.. thats the first time i opened that phone.. rather it was opened for me ;) .. some dude came running up to me to gimme the keypad i thought id lost it.. haha.. But it finally broke ( the screen broke the phone still works) after i dropped it a gazillion times.. i trust only nokia phones.. they're really the MOST rugged phones.. i mean if a phone were to survive with my usage for more than 6 months its SOLID!:)

[stephanie]

strangely nokia never made anything that was special.
3310 is in the history books as the phone that sold the wost wordwide, exploded the most and had the most problems.

hi, I'd like to disagree with that, if I may.

Nokia had the communicator phone (nokia 9000) when ericsson was still selling boxy A1018's. And up to now, SE, has no counterpart for the 8850/8890/8800 series of luxury phones. They dont have a 3300 or an N-gage too. In fact, they even copied nokia's gimmick of changeable housings - but it didn't sell. It was not until the k700 did SE have a speakerphone - while nokias have been having this in lots and lots of their phones before. Dont get me started on the multi-character search and repeating calendar. Nokia wasn't the first in everything, yes, but they did make special phones just the same. They also made phones that was commercially successful, bestsellers, while SE made 2 to 3 at most.

[stephanie]

I would SERIOUSLY doubt that.

If I may make a comment, I think that on that point, mr.bart was right.

I did this paper on nokia and cellphones in general (last year for my soc-ed class), and my research showed that the 3310 (and the 3390) was the best selling phone in its class several years ago. It outsold not only nokias but every other phone of other brands as well. In fact, many are still being used today.

thanks.

[carcomptoy]

If I may make a comment, I think that on that point, mr.bart was right.

I did this paper on nokia and cellphones in general (last year for my soc-ed class), and my research showed that the 3310 (and the 3390) was the best selling phone in its class several years ago. It outsold not only nokias but every other phone of other brands as well. In fact, many are still being used today.

thanks.
In brad's defense, I don't think he fully understood what bart said, or rather what bart wrote. Bart wrote 3310 is in the history books as the phone that sold the wost wordwide so that would be interpreted as "...the phone that sold the worst worldwide," which I think is what brad was doubting in the first place...

[brad]

so that would be interpreted as "...the phone that sold the worst worldwide," which I think is what brad was doubting in the first place...Spot on, I didn't realise he was trying to say that it sold the MOST worldwide, which I would agree with.

[Jose_R.A.M]

LOL.


Amazing what one letter does.


A 3310 is still being used in our household.

[carcomptoy]

Who??

[Jose_R.A.M]

Its just on...my sister gave its number to one of her friends so she's kinda using it..although i tell her just leave it.

[Boasy]

hi, I'd like to disagree with that, if I may.

Nokia had the communicator phone (nokia 9000) when ericsson was still selling boxy A1018's. And up to now, SE, has no counterpart for the 8850/8890/8800 series of luxury phones. They dont have a 3300 or an N-gage too. In fact, they even copied nokia's gimmick of changeable housings - but it didn't sell. It was not until the k700 did SE have a speakerphone - while nokias have been having this in lots and lots of their phones before. Dont get me started on the multi-character search and repeating calendar. Nokia wasn't the first in everything, yes, but they did make special phones just the same. They also made phones that was commercially successful, bestsellers, while SE made 2 to 3 at most.


Se P800 had a speaker fone. I'd definitely put the p800 in there. That fone turns heads with all of its features and the ability to download most of p910's into it up until now. There isnt that big a difference between a p910i and a fully customized p800 right now. I dare some1 to deny that!!!

[carcomptoy]

Sorry...but how was everything after "SE P800 had a speakerphone" a rebuttal to what she said?

[YJT]

I think it depends on what features makes a phone revolutionary, in my opinion from a technological standpoint it would have to be a phone form Nokia's communicator series no doubt as they really were the first smartphones.

From a cell phone awareness point of view i disagree with the 3310 as it really was a slight upgrade to the 3210 which was the inferior version to the Queen 8210. the 8210 in my opinion was the phone that brought awareness, it was expensive so not a lot of people could afford or wanted to spend that sort of money on a phone which weren't viewed as essential as they are nowadays. the 8210 was revolutionary in my opinion also as it 1)introduced the concept of having a very small phone which many viewed as being too small at the time. 2) had the predictive text and little pictures that a lot of people have been mentioning. had the express covers. 3)Raised the bar on how phones should look.. fashion etc..4) Infrared, which i think is the stepping stone to bluetooth which the 6310 capitilised on later. I think it was in the era of the 3210 and 8210 that the greatest traction in the cellphone market was gained and revolutionary if you look at it from this angle.

[oneclick]

Se P800 had a speaker fone.

The 7650 was out when the Ericsson (not yet sony-ericsson) was still busy with their T39 and T68. Nokia also released the 6100 and 7210 a few weeks later - when SE had the first T68i. Nokia also had the 9110 out by then. In other words, the 7650, 6100, 7210, and 9110 (all had speakerphones) was already out in the market for MONTHS before the we first heard of the p800. Even before the k700 came out - nokia had the 7250, 3510, 6610 and had announced the 3650.

To add to what she said - I think that the k700 was significant because it was the first non-smartphone of SE to have a speakerphone. But like what I said above - like the p800, it came much later than the nokias.

tnx-1clk

[Boasy]

Sorry...but how was everything after "SE P800 had a speakerphone" a rebuttal to what she said?

Listen up mate, I didnt intend to make a rebuttal or anything like that. She said the k700 was Sony-Ericsson's first speaker-phone phone and am saying NOT, unless she meant non-smartphone. Thats all I wanna say on that speaker-phone topic.

I also wanted to input my opinion on the topic of revolutionary fones, so I gave my reason why I think that along with the 3310, moto startac, T68i and 7650, I also think that the P800 ought to hav bn in there too.

If anyone can remember, I started a similar thread some time ago and I recall the P800 as bn voted as one very revolutionary fone. The thread asked for your five most revolutionary fones!!!

[Boasy]

Lest anyone 4get, the t68i was the first fone to do MMS!!!

[Boasy]

Moto razr too. I'd consider it intrumentalin starting that slim fone craze. If a thread like this comes up again, say next 5 years, then am sure the V3 will b in there somehow!!!

[stephanie]

Lest anyone 4get, the t68i was the first fone to do MMS!!!

Hi, I think that what the t68 can do was EMS. But it's different from what MMS is because it can only send pics to other t68's - not to other phones.

About the speakerphones - yes, I was pertaining to non-smartphones. Almost every other series 40 model had it, months before SE came out with the supposedly "revolutionary" k700. The same goes also for the FM Radio.

[YJT]

In terms of firsts, nokia were the first to introduce most of the functions that we see today. Features like;
Radio: 8310
Slider form factor: 7650
Camera: 7650 (as part of the phone)
Colour screen: 9210 in year 2000 as compared to T68 which came out in 2001. The 9210 had 4096 TFT where the T68 had 256 colours.
Smartphone with qwerty keypad: Communicator series.
Small Sized phones: 8210
Predictive text: 3210 or 8210 which ever came first.
Games: 5XXX series can't remember what the name is.
Internal Aerial: 3210 8210
Phone Vibration: 3210 or 8210 .. (could be wrong about this one)
Loudspeaker for playing radio: 6610 (could be wrong about this)
Replaceable faceplates also in the 3210 era.
Bluetooth: 6310
Infrared: 8210
Series 60 phone; 7650 was also the first to give us the hardware to allow videos to be played on phones.. proper phone themes

Nokia seems to be the one to break new ground whilst other companies capitilise on nokia's original ideas.
Other features include ringtone composition and probably a lot of others that i've forgotten to mention... with the introduction of the communicator series came features like wap & email.

[carcomptoy]

Technically, wouldn't the 8110 be the first "slider"?

[Boasy]

The most revolutionary fone ever is the home fone. lol

[carcomptoy]

LOL no doubt;) Alexander Graham Bell's first phone would obviously be the clear winner...

But let's stick to mobile phones, yes?:p

[YJT]

the 8110 does slide but i was refering to the slider form that other companies have used where the keypad is separate from the phone like the SL55 was one of the first to have that form function that was seen in the 7650

[carcomptoy]

Was it really the first, though? I thought another company had done that beforehand...

[Boasy]

What about Martin Cooper and that ArrayComm cellphone which is supposed to be the first cellular phone ever, they that very big and heavy fone??? He said people dont want to talk to Houses or cars or offices, people wanna talk to people and will demand the freedom to communicate wherever they are. That fone has to count for something!!!

[difenbaker]

What about Martin Cooper and that ArrayComm cellphone which is supposed to be the first cellular phone ever, they that very big and heavy fone??? He said people dont want to talk to Houses or cars or offices, people wanna talk to people and will demand the freedom to communicate wherever they are. That fone has to count for something!!!

I saw that one... it was a brick of a phone! hehehe... literally as big as a brick. And an external antenna that's as long as the body of the phone.

Yeah, that's one revolutionary device alright, in fact doctor cooper was given a lifetime achievement award or something.... for his efforts in developing it.


cheers!

[carcomptoy]

What about the Motorola DynaTAC or w/e...I thought Motorola was the first to develop a cellphone:o

[waytaminit]

In terms of firsts, nokia were the first to introduce most of the functions that we see today. Features like;
Internal Aerial: 3210 8210


I agree with this. I even remember a this one professor of mine, who showed us a website that shows how "dangerous" the internal antenna of a 3210 was. :D Of course, that was proven to be false, now all the brands have internal antennas.

[waytaminit]

... anyway, for me, first place is the 3310. It was instrumental in promoting Text Messaging (sms). Without that - mobile phones wouldn't be as famous as they are now.

Totally agree on that. The 3310 was indeed revolutionary.

[Boasy]

Totally agree on that. The 3310 was indeed revolutionary.

In my country, the 3310 certainly lead the way!!!

[Boasy]

Even now people still wanna buy the 3310 for its simplicity and ease of use!!!

[carcomptoy]

EXACTLY! So who was that that was contesting that the 3310 wasn't revolutionary?? (rhetorical question, I know who it was...just pointing it out:p)

[Jose_R.A.M]

The most revolutionary mobile phone will be the one they impant in you. Because then it isnt just a phone - its part of you.

[Boasy]

Well the 3310 won by unanimous decision