Best BT Headset

[bart]

just wondering wich one you all like?

[BengalBoy]

No Doubt....NextLink BlueSpoon Digital!

http://www.pbase.com/image/17126240.jpg

[Michael]

That thing (BS digital) made some nasty noise disconnecting on from my T68i, plus I found it too uncomfortable.

If they would have used a softer material for the piece that goes into the ear like the Jabra, and put the buttons on the edges instead of the outward face, I might be inclined to agree.

But even still, the people on the remote end of the call did not like it nearly as much as the HBH-60, HDW-2, or the Siemens HBB-500. Everybody said I sounded much more "distant". They all used that very word.

And then, of course, you have to justify paying 3.5x more for the Bluespoon. Which few people can.

[Michael]

So anyway, ignoring blonde women in bikinis (hard as that may be), I have used/tested the following:

SE HBH-10 *
SE HBH-15
SE HBH-30 *
SE HBH-60 *
Nokia HDW-2
Plantronics M3000 *
Siemens HBB-500 *
Jabra BT-200
Innovi Bluetrek *
Hit HHB-001
Bluespoon
Bluespoon Digital

Those marked with a * are ones I still have.

Out of all those, I prefer the HBH-60 and the Siemens HBB-500 (aka Jabra BT-300).

Both are very comfortable and provide good audio. The Siemens has better audio (both directions), but is bigger and far more strange looking - and not as secure because of the length. I am using it currently as my headset of choice, but w/o the ear-pad.

The Bluespoon Digital is nice, but has the flaws I pointed out earlier with audio and comfort.

I like the HBH-30 a lot, but it doesn't work well with glasses if that is an issue.

The Plantronics M3000 is a great headset, but very uncomfortable. Also a bit weak on dealing with wind noise. If it were more comfortable, I would probably prefer it to the SE HBH-60. (The Nokia is virtually the same thing, but the Plantronics has minor improvements and is not ugly).

A lot of my friends like the Jabra. Comfortable, secure, usually decent audio quality on both sides.

[BengalBoy]

Well Michael, I have used the Motorola headset, the HBH-30, and find the BlueSpoon to be the best by far. I understand it has a learning curve for wearing comfortably, but if you are willing to invest a week, you should be able to wear it very easily afterwards. Yes it's expensive, but it gives 5 hours consistently of talk time and for myself, that is the most important thing.

The problems you are having with the Digital could indicate a bad unit. I have an orginal pre-production unit as well as two production units. I am lucky that everyone I have had works very well. Some people have gotten units with complaints like yours, people can't hear you very well. Part of this could be due to the automatic gain control and DSP working in extremely quiet enviroments. With a little noise around you, the volume of your voice is automatically increased on the listeners end as well as yours. Also, some of the early units have had a little glue covering the mic holes which has affected the sound.

For your consideration, here is an actual recording of a call made by me comparing the Analog BlueSpoon, the Digital BlueSpoon and a P800 made from my boat while traveling about 10 knots. Let me know what you think?

http://people.msoe.edu/~raud/forum/3vw_D-BS_Test_Recording_5-25-03.mp3

[Michael]

I don't think my ears have a learning curve for discomfort. I have a lot of trouble with a lot of headsets. I know my ears are sensitive, they always have been. My ear will get all red just from speaking on a phone for a few minutes. In any event, I think it would have been fairly easy to move the buttons to the edge of the device and avoided the bulk of the ear mashing. That was a brain fart in the design stage, if you'll excuse my French.

I'm also not so convinved that the souds I heard were a result of a bad headset. Two of us actually tested the very same headset with two different handsets. Bernard used a 3650 (hands free profile), I used a T68i (headset profile). I think it much more likely that the difference has to do with that somehow than it being defective since Bernard never heard the noise I did.

I listened to your mp3. What really surprised me was not the quality of the sound on the BS Digital, but how poor the P800 was. Egads.

As to filtering out background noise, I find this new Siemens/Jabra headset to do an amazing job there. Open windows, stereo blasting, whatever. Does a damn fine job of filtering it all out.

[fomage]

Well, I'm using a SE HBH-60 for my first BT headset ever, and what only didn't make me satisfied is that it doesn't sound loud enough in out-door situations. It just works beautiful when I'm indoor and the called party doesn't complain anything about the sound quality.

It perfectly fits on my ear and is VERY secure as written in Michael's review. I wear on glasses, and it doesn't bother me when I use it lying on my bed. Just pretty.

Anyway, I think I'd better use a BT200 in the near future, hoping it would provide much larger volume for the out-door use. I can't figure out why SE placed the speaker part so far from the earhole. Any ideas?

[schumi]

Hi,

Could you please comment on the best possible bluetooth combination of handset/headset.

Interesting points would be if the support for different bluetooth profiles such as "handsfree" improved the transmission quality.

please include in your reply the version of software your handset is currently using and whether new profiles or upgrades are known.

many thanks;)

[haohmaru]

Hey Guys,

I have the Jabra BT200 and the SE HBH-35, I use both on my Nokia 3650. I find the SE HBH-35 a little more comfortable to use after long periods of time. As far as features, both are about the same, imo. I prefer the HBH-35 because the mic isn't as sensitive as the BT200, which picks up way too much ambient sounds like slight breeze.

[R&D of BlueSpoo]

Dear Michael
My name is Jon Magnussen and I'm managing the R&D at Nextlink. It sounds to me that you have received one of the very first prod. units. We discovered that we had a SW bug that in connection with some Ericsson models could cause some sort of clicking (6 to be exact). This is due to a wrong power-down sequence between the Bluetooth processor and the DSP. If you like, we can upgrade/replace your unit if you still have it - free of charge of cause.
Best regards
Jon

[Michael]

As a matter of fact, it was indeed six clicks.

Nice to know you fixed it. But we have already sent the headset back to your people.

I'll make mention of your comments in the review.

Thanks Jon.

[Aristo]

I had owned or currently using:

SE HBH-15 - best reception, best sound quality, but very very "huge" and looks weird to wear it....

SE HBH-30 - good looking, but not comfotable for wearing long period of time.

SE HBH-60 - compact in size, but good battery life, reception as good as (but not exactly) HBH-15. (The reason I having it is because I've sent my HBH-30 for repair, in result they gave me this for replacement, but I still love HBH-30 more than this)

Motorola BT - very very compact and good looking, however, short battery life and my friend always tell me to "speak up"!

Nokia HDW-2 - average, good price (I got it really really cheap from its ex-user). The special features is it can play system sound of phone/ pocket pc. (which means you can use it to listen MP3, but not recommend), so use it for voice call only. One very weird things I want to point out is, when it used with all SE phones, I have to press one, to connect to the phone, then press again to do the voice dialing....The reason I'm buying this is because my SE/ Mot BT headset can't used with my Nokia 3650. When I get my HBH-60 afterwards, I figured out HBH-60 also can connect to 3650.

Conclusion

If you consider reception, go for HBH-15. I used to wear it @home, due to its good reception... but I think it's hard to find one now, even on Ebay... (tell me if you have one!)

Budget user - go for Nokia HDW-2/ HBH-30. Especially Jarbar BT headset, but sorry I've never try that, all I know is it's very cheap.

Otherwise, go for HBH-60

PS: I'm not wearing any glasses

[Chappies]

I have tested 11 Bluetooth headsets so far on 8 different phones.

I found the following to be of use.

Motorola / Jabra BT100 longest range, battery the worst, best carry solution (MOT), easy to use but boom tends to break easily. Handy Car charger. V dial worked fine.

M1000 Plantronics good voice quality, bit lanky because of length of boom. SA has bad power supply so fluctuations in stand by were very different from plug point to plug point.
Replacement battery very good idea. V dial worked okay, in noisy environment not to good if you spoke to loud. Paired more than one phone.

HBH-15 floppy boom, to bulky, voice not great, as it seems the older software could not adjust the output strength, if your phone was close it worked well, if not then the phone would boost BT output, if you brought phone closer it would be to strong and sound deteriorated. V dial worked okay.

HBH-20 worst design, no one still wants cables. Sound was not bad but the ear piece defeated the BT issue, no wires. V dial was accurate as there was no distance problem because of the cable.

HBH-30 sound still not to bad, Battery was not that great. Feel over the ear was nice and comfortable. Still boom was to long.V dial was not bad.

HBH-60 best size for Sony/Ericsson. Sound no great shakes. Most people I spoke to said it broke up and sounded scratchy.V Dial was okay.

BT 200 best styled Jabra. New advanced software allows it to work with all Nokia phone incl 3650and the S55 siemens. It now supports the handsfree profile. I found the charger / holder to be a pain as the headset kept popping out of it. Sound was the loudest so far as the ear gel goes straight into you ear canal. Voice dialling a little bit iffy needs to be very quiet.

BT 300 was the longest stand by so far, sounds good but over all the voice dialling was hit and miss. I found the rubber piece around the speaker to be a pain removed it and it felt better. Headset was not secure on my ear.

HDW-2 worst of the bunch I feel. No charger, they assume you have a Nokia phone. Battery terrible. A bit troublesome for the non techno boffin as they couold end up pairing the same phone more than once. Pairs up to 8 phones. Car charger and replacement battery available.

The best of the bunch so far I would have to say is the new M3000.

Looks great, silver design very elegant. Standby is exceptional, 5 days or more, 8 hours at least talk time. Supports handsfree profile,which is to say it does last no redial, call rejection and does echo cancellation and noise reduction.
On a T68i your software needs to be R5... or higher. This headset as well as the new BT200 supports audio gateway on the latest BT software for the PC or Laptop. You can now use your headset to play MP3's or any audio through the headset, only thing is it's not stereo.

Also supports the same function on the new HP IPAQ 5450 and 5550.

Please let me know what your thoughts are...

:)

[mark.spiro]

Thanks, I was about to go out and buy the HBH-60 this Saturday, but now I will give it second thoughts.

[Sid]

Chappies, I have merged your post with this thread.

[ED_209]

I'm thinking of getting the SE HBH-35. I know its somewhat new, but I want to see more feedback from ppl who tried it for a while. Also how does it compare to the HBH-60?

-ED 209

[Aristo]

all I know the difference between HBH-30 and HBH-35 is, HBH-35 has longer talk time....

correct me if I'm wrong...;)

[Michael]

I haven't used a 35 yet. I'll see if I can get one in the next couple of days.

[haohmaru]

I use the HBH-35 with The Nokia 3650, the HBH-35 is very comfortable to wear for long periods of talk time, it pairs easily with the 3650. I'm not sure if this is a feature, but after a short period of time the headset goes into sleeper mode, you can reactivate the connection by pressing the on/off button. Works as well as the jabra bt200 feature wise it does not have a redial function. Overall I like using it, the only thing it is missing is a noise cancelling feature.

[jps]

Originally posted by Michael
I haven't used a 35 yet. I'll see if I can get one in the next couple of days.

Hi all... I just would like to suggest the headset that I currently own and use everyday: MicroTooth from FreeTop - www.freetop.net

http://www.freetop.net/_images/microtooth-angle-views.gif

Actually, I've bought the complete Multitooth package (with car kit). It's a dual purpose solution. I'm very hapy with it although thats my first bluetooth headset/car kit. Its halfway the Bluespoon analog headset with much lower price :)

I would like to see your review of it, Michael, I think you'll be surprised.

There is a first impression (mini-review) of some other forum user: http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=130615&highlight=%2Bmicrotooth

Check it out. I would like to see more impressions and reviews of it. I think its still very unknown to most of you as I can't find many reviews about it on the web.

I have no relation to FreeTop, just a happy user.

[The Roo]

Michael, while you're at it, can you get your hands on the new SE HBH-200 BT headset? I like the idea of sticking my mobile in my girls bag whilst all I gotta carry around on me is that little plastic stick. I'd essentially have total voice/call control (with caller ID & ringtones!) all from the tiny device.

Very cool. It'd compliment any chunky BT mobile very well don'tcha think...

But is the speaker/microphone quality any good?

[Michael]

Yeah, I'd like to try out the HBH-200. Not sure when it will be available, though. Will have to ping some folks at SE.

[incognito]

Originally posted by Michael
Yeah, I'd like to try out the HBH-200. Not sure when it will be available, though. Will have to ping some folks at SE.

Michael, do you or anyone have the snapshot of this HBH-200???

[incognito]

I've been using the Bluetake BT400GII for over a month now, I pair it with my SE-T610, and it seems works very well.. and it worn very comfortably in both ears. Give it a try...

[The Roo]

Incognito>>

SE HBH-200 (http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp?page=gis)

click 'coming soon' , then click on the HBH-200.
I'd paste a photo of it here but I don't know how to!

Alternatively: SE HBH-200 (preview) (http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/4022.html)

[incognito]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by The Roo

click 'coming soon' , then click on the HBH-200.
I'd paste a photo of it here but I don't know how to!

;) Thanks Roo.. you're the best!!

[The Roo]

oh stop, you're making me blush...

[Wam7]

Thanks for the review on these headset; just what I needed, although after seeing the picture in the second post in this thread I had to check I was on the right forum.

I can't wait for the HBH-200 which is exactly what I need, so in the mean time I'll get HBH-20. Nice and discreet. What are your views like concerning voice quality, comfort etc.?

[Michael]

I haven't used one. It just makes no sense for me.

The reason I want Bluetooth is to avoid the wires....

[Jalal]

Exactly, as nice as the HBH-200 is. It still has a wire connecting it.

[The Roo]

True, the (short-length) cabling is still there but the basis of the idea is very appealing to me. Having your bluetooth mobile tucked away somewhere- off your hip, out of your pocket, etc- but still being able to hear someone calling (without having to wear the earpiece to hear the ringtone) and see the caller ID... it's all very cool to me. Yes, ideally there should be a bluetooth headset like the HBH-60 with a thin display strip and external speaker for ringtones (& vibrate alert for when it's in your pocket?), so as to eliminate the cables. It may even come to the point of someone integrating the phone into the headset itself so as to get rid of the handset all together!

But in the mean time, the HBH-200 will do for me. I'd be able to leave my SE P810 in my office whilst I nip down to the cafeteria for a quick bite, or stick the handset in my woman's handbag on a night out while my trendy threads stay crisp all night, free from unsightly (& <cough> un-natural) bulges in my pocket.

The idea is good. It won't replace the popular headset's like the HBH-60 or Siemens offering, but it's a good alternative option. There may even be room for both... for all you money-bags out there!

[Wam7]

The reason I want Bluetooth is to avoid the wires.... That's exactly the way I used to think when I first saw one. But I've come to value the discreet nature of my Nokia hands free more than I thought so seeing the HBH-20 is nice and cheap and from the few reviews I've seen, pretty good, it should do for now.

Although I do like the look of the HBH-30 so if I can find that for a good price I might be tempted.

Anybody in the U.K know a good online store?

[The Roo]

Anybody in the U.K know a good online store?

Well, even though there's a specific forum for that type of question I'll go ahead & answer it... though we run the risk of having it removed/moved by one of the forum moderator's!

Anywayz, L8Shop (http://l8shop.net/Products/Bluetooth-Bluetooth-Headsets.asp) has some decent prices compared to places like Carphone Warehouse (they're still charging £150 for the SE HBH-60 on their website), as does the UK Expansys (http://www.expansys.com/d_bluetooth.asp) site, although there seems to be inconsistencies on various products regarding prices. Probably not the cheapest on the net, but like I said, still cheaper than the high street.

[Wam7]

Oops you're right, my apologies to the Admins.

Thanks for the links though. Expansys is the cheapest place (£31) I found for the HBH-20 which is what I'll get. I've seen it cost as much as £140 (from Dabs)!

Back on topic, what is the longest range I can expect the headset to work over and which one has the longest working range?

[The Roo]

Could be wrong, but I think Bluetooth generally works within a 10 m radius (depending on thickness of walls, same-frequency interference ie. wi-fi.11b standard, etc). The quality of each headset might also make a difference. Again, could be wrong.

There is 'Long-Range Bluetooth' in the pipe-line, but not available as standard... yet.

Haven't researched it that much. I'll leave it to a Bluetooth-knowledgable person to answer it I think...

[The Roo]

Interesting...

This (http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=107451&asource=) could well end up being the "Best BT Headset" when it gets released.

Just like the differences between the HBH-30 & HBH-35, they've improved on battery life here. Together with the original's small, descrete size & good quality earpiece/mic, this could be a very popular BT headset.

[Jalal]

Try here as well...

http://www.blueunplugged.com

I'm not sure if they have what you're looking for but, their prices are better then Expansys.

[AuDiTT]

Hey All!

I have SE HBH- 30, HBH- 60 and Jabra BT200.
I dunno if its happend to u 2 with the HBH 60, i paird him with my P800 and all the time when i talk the headset stopped to transfer the voices...
do u know why its happend?

and, i am searching, like all of you, for the best Headset, can some1 tell me about a good headset, i mean the best if its quality or talk time and comfortble.

and how is the new Nextlink? is it good? or the same like the others Nextlink?

thnx,
Eliran :)

[sean]

I have a Nextlink Chameleon to test right now.. so far I am loving it. Had a conferece call with a few people yesterday... they had no issues with the sound quality... I spent part of the call driving and the other half standing outside..

Nice.

[idian]

Wam7 & The Roo,

Michael may not approve of this, but this is what I did, I have a HBH-20 paired to my Ericsson T68i. It was a good product, but I find that because the microphone is connected by a wire, it tends to move around when my head move and the opposite party tends to complain.
So I replace the earpiece with a Jabra earset. It is essentially the same as the original earpiece, the difference being that the mic and speaker are on the same shell without the thin wire and therefore solve the problem. Total cost is still less than HBH-60.

I am also eagerly waiting for HBH-200 and I plan to replace th e earpiece with my jabra earset when I get it.

I do hope Michael will do a review on it.

[demuire]

At the moment I'm trying to decide between the Siemens headset, the Ericsson HBH-60 and the Bluetrek. The Bluetrek is by far the cheapest, and from what I've seen so far the Erisson the most expensive - but I haven't been looking too hard yet.

Anyone have any comments for or against these? Does the S55 fully support the Ericsson and Bluetrek headsets? As in like voice dialing, last number redial etc? I've read the reviews, and all 3 of them seem to rate very highly...

[Michael]

Most all headsets do the same thing, it is the phones that usually determine what features work or not.

As to the three listed, the HBH-60 is my favorite, and the headset I use day to day. I have 8 headsets within 10 feet of me here, and the HBH-60 is what I choose.

[demuire]

Oh okay, so the headsets should work with all the features of the phone as long as the phone supports them? Hmm, I've heard otherwise (don't know how creditable the source) - someone told me that with certain headsets you can't do voice dials etc, and then there was something else about which phones (or maybe it was headsets) support the headset profile?

All too confusing for me! :)

I do like the look of the HBH-60 a lot. The Siemens one is nice, and the review you wrote looks very good, but like you said it's just really huge.

[demuire]

Have had a proper look at the HBH-65 (can't get the 60 in retail stores here anymore) and the Bluetrek, the SE definately looks a lot better and all that. It's also double the price, which is yeah... have to think about it...

[ozman]

:confused: How about HBH-65?
Does it match up with HBH-60 with improved bettery life (3.5hr talk time/ 90hr std by) ?
Anyone look into it yet?

[The Roo]

I'm sure MobileBurn will be releasing a review on the HBH-65 over the next couple of weeks. I don't think Michael would pass up the opportunity of trying this headset out, as no doubt it'll replace his current favourite - the HBH-60.

It's not a big update though. Exactly the same as HBH-60 but with improved battery life, like maybe a couple hours extra talk time. Simple as that. I posted a link to the HBH-65 earlier on in this thread!

[Michael]

Originally posted by The Roo
I'm sure MobileBurn will be releasing a review on the HBH-65 over the next couple of weeks. I don't think Michael would pass up the opportunity of trying this headset out, as no doubt it'll replace his current favourite - the HBH-60.

I've had one for a week, the review just got sidetracked by the P900's arrival on my doorstep.

The HBH-65 seems to be basically a clone of the HBH-60, except for the color changes. Audio seems to be about the same, as is range.

I can't comment on battery life because I haven't had the chance to talk on it for a few hours....

[ozman]

Michael,

In the HBH-35 review you said "There are a few hidden differences, too... there is new support for the Hands Free profile now. The audio characteristics ..."

What excatly is a handsfree profile?

I have both HBH-30 & 35 (using it with T610) couldn't find this function!

What about HBH-60 and 65 do they also support this function?

[Sid]

Originally posted by ozman
Michael,

In the HBH-35 review you said "There are a few hidden differences, too... there is new support for the Hands Free profile now. The audio characteristics ..."

What excatly is a handsfree profile?

I have both HBH-30 & 35 (using it with T610) couldn't find this function!

What about HBH-60 and 65 do they also support this function?

The handsfree profile is the profile used in some Nokia phones. SE phones, and some Nokias, use the headset profile.

[ozman]

Does that mean it's got nothing to do with the headset, it is simply the phone that provides an additional profile when a BT is connected?:confused:

[Michael]

There are two different Bluetooth profiles commonly used by headsets, the Headset profile and the Hands Free profile.

The Hands Free profile was intended for car kits and the like, but has been used of late in headsets because it offers some additional functionality (like last number redial) at the expense of some battery life.

The HBH-30 didn't support the Hands Free profile, and therefore wouldn't work with the 3650 which did not support Headset profile.

Most phones, even prior Nokias, supported the Headset profile. Most recent phones support both, as do most newer headsets, like the HBH-60 and HBH-65.

[ozman]

What other phones support Handsfree profile, does P800?
I would like to find out more about it!

BTW would the HBH-65 review be release anytime soon?

How does it compare with the HBH-60 would you spend $50-100 more to purchase the 65 instead of the 60?

[schumi]

Originally posted by Michael
I've had one for a week, the review just got sidetracked by the P900's arrival on my doorstep.

The HBH-65 seems to be basically a clone of the HBH-60, except for the color changes. Audio seems to be about the same, as is range.

I can't comment on battery life because I haven't had the chance to talk on it for a few hours....

Mike.when you test these headsets,can you please advise the handset model you use as we wish to duplicate your test to establish if we can achieve a similar result as we do not get good transmit audio quality with the HBH-60/P800/3650 /610 combination.
Currently testing Logitech H/S with longer boom but still no audible improvement in transmit voice quality.
Hopefully BT version 1.2 will improve this quality issue??

[Michael]

As a general rule, I always use a Sony Ericsson T68i.

The T610 audio quality with headsets was never that great.

[schumi]

Originally posted by Michael
As a general rule, I always use a Sony Ericsson T68i.

The T610 audio quality with headsets was never that great.

Thanks, Michael !!

When you change your preferred handset,please advise this forum.
Re :T610,Plantronics have upgraded M3000 Versions that fix various issues with this handset,especially talktime.
Looking forward to your tests of the new Motorola Bluetooth handsets and headsets as they produced their own Bluetooth
chipsets which hopefully results in an improved audio experience
for both parties to a mobile conversation.

Logitech Earloop solution proving very comfortable and stable.

Take Care and Thank you.

[norm]

I thought I would replace my old HBH-15 with an HBH-60 because it's so much smarter. In the end, I got rid of the HBH-60 and gone back to mt faithful HBH-15.

The problem with the HBH-60 was that voice dialling would work only about 20% of times even sitting in my car with the radio off and windows closed. It virtually never fails with my HBH-15 and it often also works with the roof down in my convertible!

I make most of my calls with voice dialling and the HBH-60 just wasn't up to it.

norm

[Michael]

Did you re-record the voice tags with the new headset?

If you recorded them with the old headset, they will likely not work.

I use the HBH-60 almost exclusively with voice tags, and they work 99% of the time.

[norm]

Michael, have I missed something. When I try and record voice commands or names, I can only do it direct to the phone. I don't get any prompt tone in the blueooth headset and if I record a voice command into the headset the phone does not pick it up except through the phone's mike. Have I missed a setting somewhere?

norm

It was a t610 but I got my Z600 yesterday - love it so far.

[ozman]

:confused: Has anyone out there found out exeactly how long the battery life of HBH-65 last?

Is it as follows?

Talk time 3.5hrs
Stand by 90 hrs

Anyone seen/found official release specification?

[Michael]

Originally posted by norm
Michael, have I missed something. When I try and record voice commands or names, I can only do it direct to the phone. I don't get any prompt tone in the blueooth headset and if I record a voice command into the headset the phone does not pick it up except through the phone's mike. Have I missed a setting somewhere? Yeah, you are missing something. Hit the headset button as soon as you hit the button on the phone that brings the voice prompt.

Usually it will come up in the headset. The recognition is so much better when done that way.

And with some of the phones, the connection will stay active until the first time you hit "no", as in "no, the recording is not acceptable."

[norm]

Thanks, Michael. You're right of course. I had tried the button on the handset but probably left it too late. And, as you say, on my Z600 it stayed active until I had finished rerecording all my voice commands etc.

Thanks again.

norm

[Jax826]

it makes me super sad when I find out that the nokia hs-3w bluetooth headset wont' pair with my P900.
And the hbh-200 has caller ID issue with the p900 as well.
Can the p900 firmware update solve these problems?

[Michael]

Originally posted by Jax826
Can the p900 firmware update solve these problems? The hands free profile *could* be added through a firmware update. That is not to say that it will, though.

[Fulmitz]

This may be slightly off topic but I just got the Jabra BT200 and the Actiontec Bluetooth Headset and have been trying to use Voice Dial through the headsets with my Z600 to no avail. I press the button, the phone is closed and says say word and I hear a beep through the headset but it won't recognize the name of the person. What am I doing wrong?

Thanks

Fulmtiz

[Michael]

Try recording the voice tags with your headset instead of directly into the phone.

Press the headset button right after you press the yes button on th phone that makes it prompt you for the voice tag. If you to it fast enough the prompt will come in the headset.

[demuire]

Michael: Do you know if that trick works with the S55? I've tried several times but I can only seem to record the voicetag with the actual phone, if I press the headset button it kicks me out of the menu completely

[Michael]

I never tried it with my S55. I don't actually use the phone, I just keep it around for comparison tests.

It wouldn't surprise me if it worked. Just try it.

[Fulmitz]

Michael,

Thanks for the advice with the headsets. Works like a charm! Now I can truely voice dial. Seems when I do that it gets permanently connected to the headset and after training a few voice tags it won't work properly and I can't make a voice call. I have to go into the menu and disconnect the bluetooth device and then it will work fine. Is this normal or a bug with the heaset or the phone?

Fulmitz

[demuire]

Michael: nup doesn't seem to work :(

[Jax826]

if i am wearing glasses, which bluetooth headset is suggested :D ?

[Michael]

Originally posted by Fulmitz
Michael,

Thanks for the advice with the headsets. Works like a charm! Now I can truely voice dial. Seems when I do that it gets permanently connected to the headset and after training a few voice tags it won't work properly and I can't make a voice call. I have to go into the menu and disconnect the bluetooth device and then it will work fine. Is this normal or a bug with the heaset or the phone?

Fulmitz Just h it the red hangup button to kill the connection.

[Michael]

Originally posted by Jax826
if i am wearing glasses, which bluetooth headset is suggested :D ? If you have thin/wire-frame glasses:

SE HBH-65/60
Siemens HHB-500
Nokia HDW-2
Plantronics M3000

If you have fairly thick frames, you might have to go with just the Nokia or Plantronics if you really don't want to worry about it. You can wear them with the others, for sure, but it can be more of a pain to get it on or take it off.

[Fulmitz]

Originally posted by Michael
Just h it the red hangup button to kill the connection.

Where is the red hang-up button?

Fulmitz

[Jax826]

hi michael...thanks^^
Had anyone tried SE hbh-200 yet?
How is the battery life on it?
I am thinking of getting either hbh-200, hbh-65 or hbh-35
any suggestion out of the three?

thanks

[Michael]

Originally posted by Fulmitz
Where is the red hang-up button?

Fulmitz The button on the phone that you use to hang up a phone call....

[Jax826]

hbh-200, hbh-65 and hbh-35....which one pair with p900 the best^^?

[Michael]

They will all pair with it equally well.

[hoehingday]

has any one got a motorola Motorola HS810?
or has any one used it before?
i cant seem to find a review on it any where on d net.

Thanx.

[manav]

I feel that the HDW-2 is the worst ever.
Its not comfortable, not rugged and Has a bad battery life.

Only good this is that it has seemless integration with Nokia phones.

[francisofarabia]

link to a great pix of HBH-200 and discussions on it

http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=41437&forum=15&start=20&39

[HelioPause]

Originally posted by Fulmitz
Michael,

Thanks for the advice with the headsets. Works like a charm! Now I can truely voice dial. Seems when I do that it gets permanently connected to the headset and after training a few voice tags it won't work properly and I can't make a voice call. I have to go into the menu and disconnect the bluetooth device and then it will work fine. Is this normal or a bug with the heaset or the phone?

Fulmitz

This is the exact same thing that happened to me. I had to delete pairing and re-pair. Now it seems to work like a charm. But sometimes I don't hear the callers and sometimes I do. Weird.

[francisofarabia]

Michael,

Please do not forget the HBH-65 review

[Lydecker]

Originally posted by hoehingday
has any one got a motorola Motorola HS810?
or has any one used it before?
i cant seem to find a review on it any where on d net.

Thanx.

HAD ANY ONE GOT ANY FIRST HAND INFO ON THIS?????!!!!
thanks

[hoehingday]

i got mine today.
it looks good, sounds great (loud enough), feel comfortable but a little loose on d ear (easy to snatch off).
cant really say much else about it as i havnt even had it for a day yet but i do hav one problem.
when the headset is folded in its off, and when u get a call and fold the boom out it automatically connects to the phone if they are paired and shud automatically pick up d call.
it dont seem to happen wid my 8910, abit wierd.


pm in a few days/weeks time if u wana know how i get on with it. or if u want ill post it up on here.

[HelioPause]

Originally posted by hoehingday
i got mine today.
it looks good, sounds great (loud enough), feel comfortable but a little loose on d ear (easy to snatch off).
cant really say much else about it as i havnt even had it for a day yet but i do hav one problem.
when the headset is folded in its off, and when u get a call and fold the boom out it automatically connects to the phone if they are paired and shud automatically pick up d call.
it dont seem to happen wid my 8910, abit wierd.


pm in a few days/weeks time if u wana know how i get on with it. or if u want ill post it up on here.

Lowering the boom is not supposed to make the call connect. You have the side button or say "answer".

[hoehingday]

i think it is suppose to connect the call, in the instruction manual and the packaging it says u can answer the call by simple flipping out the boom.
when i get an incomin call and i flip out the boom, it connects to the phone but doesnt answer the call, and when i press the answer button it drops the call.
so i hav to flip out the boom and jus hook it on my ear everytime i want to use it to receive calls.

has it got anything to do with the fact that im using it with a nokia phone?

[Jax826]

how come no one has tried the nokia bluetooth hs-3w??
I really like the design but it seems like it can only be paired with handsfree profile phones

[choyboy]

Hi everyone,

Brand new here so forgive any repettitiveness.

I've been reading all the forum posts I can find on bluetooth headsets. So far, many people like the SE HBH 60/65, Jabra BT200 and a couple of others

I have seen a few sporadic replies about the Logitech bluetooth headset. Is there any possibility that there will be a full review on this one anytime soon? I'm so far homing in on the following headsets based on price, comfort for glasses wearing, battery life, voice quality and availability(in Australia) (and the HBH 60/65 is a little too rich for my blood down here)

• Jabra BT200 (AUD $165)
• Plantronics M3000 (AUD$140)
• Logitech Mobile bluetooth headset (AUD$135)
http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?page=products/details&CRID=1632&CONTENTID=7010&countryid=19&languageid=1


Thanks in advance!
Choyboy

[metaron]

Mike,
I would like to know which headsets you would recommend that have talk times greater than 3.5 hours. I have a Seimens s56 that works great - except for the fact that it doesnt xfer outgoing calls to the headset automatically.

Also Mike, in your seimens headset review did you use the headset with the s56? I wonder if their headset requires the extra step to send outgoing calls to the headset.

I totally agree w/ your review of the Nextlink Chameleon....it is a great earpiece except that I apparently have small ears because every other reviewer states that it is comfortable enough to wear for hours.. after 3 hours I had to take it off.
I was never able to drain it talking....so now I am kinda spoiled :) huge improvement over the motorola headsets.

What do you all think about the Jarba BT250? I cannot find a reivew on it. are the comfy to wear? how is audio on both ends?


PS. my Bluespoon chameleon is for sale $120 pm me :)

[schumi]

Hi,

Try the Logitech headset,it currently has the longest standby time which normally translates into an improvement in talk time,only criteria is the handset you use and the battery management.

The Plantronics M3000 has a std talk time of 8 hours and 200 standby.

Ref your comments on comfort,the Logitech unit has a very comfortable earloop which is adjustable,the Plantronics unit can be used with a headband or a neckband which improve comfort over units that use earloops.
To increase the functionality of BT headsets,try the Logitech Di Novo Bluetooth keyboard ,mouse and wireless hub which supports the audio profile and allows you to pair your mobile phone,headset etc to the pc,try Voip over broadband for a killer application.
The siemens S55 allows you currently the most functionality with the Logitech solution,for further info go to www.logitech.com/bluetooth/howto

Have Bluetooth fun in 2004

regards



:)

[schumi]

Michael,

Interesting Plantronics Bluetooth Headset previewed this week,hopefully the DSP audio technology they are going to implement in this model will enhance the users experience, with reference to outgoing/transmit audio quality as the noise cancelling feature is improved.

Further info on the DSP technology can be seen at www.dspfactory.com

Plantronics Model no is M3500,release early your summer.
Maybe a Bluetooth version 1.2 chipset as well?

Best Regds.

schumi

[BengalBoy]

Upcoming BlueSpoon 5g.......tiny.....

http://www.pbase.com/image/25013238.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/image/25013243.jpg

[francisofarabia]

Nokia's HS-4W BT Boom Headset is one stuff to watch and to wait for.

http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,,47870,00.html

[jojoc]

Originally posted by Michael
The hands free profile *could* be added through a firmware update. That is not to say that it will, though.

Michael,

Can you provide me with a step-by-step procedure on how to activate the voice dial on my HBH-65?

And to make you feel a little guilty (LOL), it was your review that made me decide to buy the P900 instead of the Treo 600 (I used to own a Treo 270).

Furthermore, it was your "rave" review that clinched my choice of the HBH-65 over the Logitech Mobile bluetooth.

So how about it? Guilty enough?

jojoc
manila, philippines

[t68m]

Originally posted by hoehingday


pm in a few days/weeks time if u wana know how i get on with it. or if u want ill post it up on here.

After a month of usage, what is your overall feeling for the HS810?

[Michael]

Originally posted by jojoc
Can you provide me with a step-by-step procedure on how to activate the voice dial on my HBH-65? Read the manual that comes with your phone. It isn't a function of the headset. You have to have voice dial set up properly on the phone.

Once that is done, you just press the button on the headset.

No voodoo involved.

[schumi]

Originally posted by francisofarabia
Nokia's HS-4W BT Boom Headset is one stuff to watch and to wait for.

http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,,47870,00.html

Really will appreaciate the auto reconnect feature,i wonder who produces the headset for Nokia?

[Michael]

i wonder who produces the headset for Nokia?Plantronics has done so in the past.