Sony Ericsson Announce P990 Smartphone

[zeem35]

hi guyz its here..
from 6 am till 2:30 pm i was waiting for the news :O *(yeah 6 hrs on net checkin all gadget sites) [now am i a SE fanboy :S]
http://www.symbianone.com/images/stories/P990.jpg
Technical specifications
Function or feature P990 support
Operating system Symbian OS v9.1
Software platform UIQ v3.0
Size 114 x 57 x 25
Weight 155g with battery and flip keyboard
Screen Large 2.8 inch QVGA (240 x 320) touch screen with 262 k colours that supports landscape view for camera, video imaging and browsing
Interaction Using touch screen, 3 way Jog Dial and dedicated buttons
WLAN 802.11b compliant
Bluetooth Includes car handsfree profile
Infrared Yes
USB Yes and charging via USB
UMTS E-GSM 900, GSM 1800, GSM 1900 and UMTS 2100
Application memory Up to 80 MB user free memory
Camera Integrated 2 megapixel CommuniCorder 24 bit colour depth, autofocus for still pictures, video clip recording and video calls
Video telephony Application included which allows video calls and video conferencing via the built-in dual cameras
Media player Supports playback, streaming and playlists Activity menu Customizable top level menu Upgradeable Via Sony Ericsson Update Service
FM/RDS radio Yes
Browser Opera browser (version 8) supporting frames and javascript
Push email Prepared for all major e-mail solutions including Research in Motion (Blackberry)
Messaging SMS, MMS and email
PIM applications Contacts, Calendar, To Do, Jotter for notes and sketches, Voice memo, Time and Calculator, converter, stop watch and timer
Viewers Microsoft Excel. Word, Powerpoint and Adobe PDF
Editors Microsoft Word and Excel
Themes Easy personalisation of animated icons, screensavers, wallpapers and skins
Speaker phone Yes
Memory Stick Memory Stick PRO Duo slot for up to 4 GB removable memory. 64 MB supplied
Flight mode Includes option to turn Wi-Fi on
Local and remote synchronisation via SyncML
Remote synchronisation via SyncML
Business telephony SIP-based integration with IP-PBX
Java™ ME platform support Both CDC and CLDC environments supported: JTWI 1.0 (JSR-185) consisting of Connected Limited Device Configuration (CLDC) 1.1 HI (JSR-139), MIDP 2.0 (JSR-118), WMA 1.1 (JSR-120).

* PDA Optional Packages (JSR-75)
* Bluetooth (JSR-82)
* Wireless Messaging API 2.0 (JSR-
* 205)
* Web Services (JSR-172)
* Mobile Media API (JSR-135)
* Mobile 3D Graphics (JSR-184)
* Nokia UI API 1.1

Connected Device Configuration (CDC) 1.0 (JSR-36)

* Foundation Profile 1.0 (JSR-46)
* Personal Profile 1.0 (JSR-62)
* PDA Optional Packages (JSR-75)

[zeem35]

The P990 is the next in a line of successful Sony Ericsson smartphones - the P800, P900 and P910 – and is based on the same proven concept and recognisable form factor. All have been popular with users, operators and software developers thanks to their powerful productivity features. Operator feedback and download statistics from the Sony Ericsson Application Shop have shown that consumers, both business and personal, are interested in using their smartphones to the fullest potential. Average Revenue Per User (ARPU) can be as high as 4 to 5 times that of more traditional voice-centric mobiles.

To ensure a large proportion of applications are available on the new Symbian and UIQ software platform when the P990 goes on sale, Sony Ericsson has decided to announce the smartphone well in advance of availability so that developers have time to create and certify as many applications as possible.

“The technical prowess of the P990 will be brought to full life by applications from the third party developer community,” said Jan Wäreby, Executive Vice President and Head of Sales and Marketing. “Demand for applications on the P800, P900 and P910 has been very high. Our smartphones have been recognised as the most advanced and useful on the market, and we want to maintain this reputation with the P990 by ensuring there’s a rich supply of top applications for enterprise, productivity, leisure and gaming when users make their first visit to the Sony Ericsson Application Shop.”

As with its predecessors, the P990 is designed to be first and foremost a great mobile phone. It also offers all the benefits of UMTS including video calling, high-bandwidth multi-media downloads and the ability to browse the Internet with full HTML pages. These are viewed in landscape on the new Opera 8 browser. In addition, the P990 is prepared for all major push e-mail clients enabling full e-mail access with attachments, anywhere, anytime.

The P990 has multiple text input methods enabling it to support all users’ needs and preferences. Writing e-mails is made easier by the new hardware keyboard positioned beneath the flip-down keypad on the main body of the phone. Reading them is made simpler on the large 2.8 inch QVGA touch screen. Multi tasking – being able to browse the Internet, send and receive files at the same time as talking – is now possible due to the enhanced capabilities of the new software platform.

Memory has been extended in order to handle all multi-media downloads and e-mail attachments. Memory Stick PRO Duo up to 4GB will be available in the market at launch and the P990 now has up to 80 MB user free memory. A 64 MB Memory Stick PRO Duo is included in the box preloaded with a VPN client and trial version of a virus scan package.

The combination of UMTS and WLAN features will also significantly improve the efficiency and flexibility of applications such as e-mail, browsing the Internet/Intranet and video telephony. WLAN, available in hot spots all over the world, acts as a complement to high speed 3G services, enabling widespread access to corporate network services.

Other new features include automatic time zone change to the Calendar diary and updated PC sync software with extended synchronization possibilities. Additionally the 2 Megapixel camera with autofocus, digital zoom, photo light plus the bright TFT screen and video recording provide a high quality imaging experience.

In a separate announcement today, Sony Ericsson Developer World and UIQ Technology outlined their plans to support UIQ 3 developers.

Developers can program in C++ or Java™ to create powerful professional and personal productivity tools for the P990. The smartphone is based on Java Platform 3 (JP-3). It supports four new Java Specification Requests (JSR’s) including Web Services (JSR-172) and is the twentieth phone from Sony Ericsson supporting Mobile Java™ 3D, demonstrating the company’s leadership in this new technology. Standard Java™ applications can be run with either the flip-down keypad open or closed.

The P990 will be commercially available in Q1 2006. The variants will be:

* P990i Dual mode UMTS (2100MHz) - GPRS 900/1800/1900 for Europe, Asia Pacific, Middle East, Africa
* P990c Dual mode UMTS (2100MHz) - GPRS 900/1800/1900 for Mainland China. Launch for mainland China dependant on availability of 3G services.
* The P990 will be available in 4 hardware keyboard variants: QWERTY, QWERTZ, AZERTY and Russian

The P990 will be demonstrated in booth # 124 at The Smartphone Show 2005 in the ExCeL Centre in London on October 11-12, where Sony Ericsson is headline sponsor. Rikko Sakaguchi, Senior Vice President and Head of Product & Application Planning, gives a keynote presentation.

[zeem35]

Specially to report the news to MB i was awake from 6 am now im now makin a big fuss abt it..
I fink I like it..

[Arne Anka]

There is a video clip showing P990 on Swedish magazine Mobil. Unfortenately I can't watch it from work. The page is a bit slow right now (I guess a lot of people is trying to watchy the clip right now).

http://mobil.mkf.se/ArticlePages/200510/10/20051010103014_MKF_MOB_Administratorer805/20051010103014_MKF_MOB_Administratorer805.dbp.asp

[zeem35]

yea me too.. its really busy..
http://www.sonyericsson.com/images/spgc/GPD_25075high_27_0_4001.jpg
http://www.sonyericsson.com/downloads/P990_front.jpg
i like it..

[difenbaker]

wow, nice specs!

...... I think it's about time for me to sell my p910 now. :p



hey guys, any idea on when this will be released?

cheers!

[stars]

1Q 2006, not in time for the christmas rush .. maybe can hold on to the christmas bonuses ?

[difenbaker]

1Q 2006, not in time for the christmas rush .. maybe can hold on to the christmas bonuses ?

cool!

this'll gimme time to fetch a good price for my phone...

[commedecargons]

aiks..... why didn't they retain the family look of the p-series established in p900!?!? it looked.... well new and modern, its somehow ugly IMO. anywa, specs real promising and good!

hmm.... the 208 processor rumoured earlier, still the same one? cos with the new interface and graphics requirement of uiq 3.0; i did see the minor increment of processing speed taking its toll there,when the guy opened the flip and close it, the lag is unacceptable, in P910, its almost instant.

[difenbaker]

sigh... couldn't watch the video, either that site it too busy right now, or somethin's wrong with my browser....

lag you say? yeah, that IS unnacceptable - I hope SE fixes that. I just hate slow phones.

cheers!

[Apocalypso]

Its official :: Sony Ericsson P990

http://www.symbian-freak.com/images/news/05/10/p990tm.jpg (http://www.symbian-freak.com/news/1005/p990.htm)

Sony Ericsson emphasised its continued commitment to Symbian OS today with the announcement of its next generation smartphone to the global development community. The P990 will be the first commercially available smartphone to adopt the enhanced Symbian OS version 9.1 and UIQ 3 software platform. This flagship UMTS smartphone is Wi-Fi enabled, has a 2 megapixel camera with autofocus and features a new hardware keyboard beneath the flip-down keypad. The phone will start shipping during Q1 of 2006

The P990 is the next in a line of successful Sony Ericsson smartphones - the P800, P900 and P910 – and is based on the same proven concept and recognisable form factor. All have been popular with users, operators and software....

Read more, photos, etc:
Its official :: Sony Ericsson P990 - full story & photos (http://www.symbian-freak.com/news/1005/p990.htm)

Sincerely yours,
Dennis ft. Apoc

[Arne Anka]

Well, when P900/P910 arrived people thought they were ugly as well as was the case with T610, K700 etc. But when they saw them in person, people changed their mind. So get used to it. All SE phones look much better in reality than on pictures.

The price for P990 will be around 649 USD (~525 EUR).

[commedecargons]

the video.... doesn't tell much (since we dont understand swedish? finnish?) jus two guys with specs, one fiddling with the mic, the other fiddling with the p990. :D

[Arne Anka]

More pictures

http://mobil.mkf.se/ArticlePages/200510/10/20051010113441_MKF_MOB_Administratorer632/20051010113441_MKF_MOB_Administratorer632.dbp.asp

http://mobil.mkf.se/ArticlePages/200510/10/20051010113441_MKF_MOB_Administratorer632/p990_front_open_camera_s.jpg
http://mobil.mkf.se/ArticlePages/200510/10/20051010113441_MKF_MOB_Administratorer632/p990_front_closed_s.jpg
http://mobil.mkf.se/ArticlePages/200510/10/20051010113441_MKF_MOB_Administratorer632/p990_front_open_menu_s.jpg
http://mobil.mkf.se/ArticlePages/200510/10/20051010113441_MKF_MOB_Administratorer632/p990_left_s.jpg

[Jose_R.A.M]

There is a video clip showing P990 on Swedish magazine Mobil. Unfortenately I can't watch it from work. The page is a bit slow right now (I guess a lot of people is trying to watchy the clip right now).

http://mobil.mkf.se/ArticlePages/200510/10/20051010103014_MKF_MOB_Administratorer805/20051010103014_MKF_MOB_Administratorer805.dbp.asp

I understood every bit of that perfectly!:D Joke. I love the way they say autofocus "o-tow-fow-cus" like a computer.

Anyways, is this the all amazing hermione then (the was p950)

Well if it is the p990 hurray! I like the name better.

The only thing i have quarms with is the permanent keypad but apparently thats a blessing. :confused:

I like the fact that the 2.8inch screen is the whole view finder for the 2.0mp camera with autofocus (no macro?).

What is the audio port of this? The S.E. one is it?

[Apocalypso]

Upsssssssss, sorry guys, wrong section :confused: :o :( :o

[Arne Anka]

P990 screen is 2.76".
P910 screen is 2.8".

P910i resolution is 208x320 pixel
P990i resolution is 220x320 pixel

[commedecargons]

hmm well, then i'll get myself a cheap car (real cheap) then get this p990 !! lol.... cars are things of 19th century, smartphone, is otherwise. :D

[Jose_R.A.M]

P990 screen is 2.76".
P910 screen is 2.8".

P910i resolution is 208x320 pixel
P990i resolution is 220x320 pixel

SO WHICH IS IT?

zeem has got 240 by 320, 2.8inch screen. :confused:

[zeem35]

i thot they shrunkd da screen size thank god they didnt.. i want badly
it meets all my requiremtns accept stereo loud speakers..
and wats da video recordin resolution???

@JOSE: 2.76 and 2.8 r almost identically da same

[varunkrish]

full specs from sE press release

# Operating system - Symbian OS v9.1
# Software platform - UIQ v3.0
# Size - 114 x 57 x 25
# Weight - 155g with battery and flip keyboard
# Screen - Large 2.8 inch QVGA (240 x 320) touch screen with 262 k colours that supports landscape view for camera, video imaging and browsing
#

# Interaction - Using touch screen, 3 way Jog Dial and dedicated buttons
# WLAN - 802.11b compliant
# Bluetooth - Includes car handsfree profile
# Infrared - Yes
# USB - Yes and charging via USB
# UMTS - E-GSM 900, GSM 1800, GSM 1900 and UMTS 2100
# Application memory - Up to 80 MB user free memory
# Camera - Integrated 2 megapixel CommuniCorder 24 bit colour depth, autofocus for still pictures, video clip recording and video calls
# Video telephony - Application included which allows video calls and video conferencing via the built-in dual cameras
# Media player - Supports playback, streaming and playlists
# Activity menu - Customizable top level menu
# Upgradeable - Via Sony Ericsson Update Service
# FM/RDS radio - Yes
# Browser - Opera browser (version 8) supporting frames and javascript
# Push email - Prepared for all major e-mail solutions including Research in Motion (Blackberry)
# Messaging - SMS, MMS and email
# PIM applications - Contacts, Calendar, To Do, Jotter for notes and sketches, Voice memo and Calculator, Converter, Stop Watch and Timer
# Viewers - Microsoft Excel. Word, Powerpoint and Adobe PDF
# Editors - Microsoft Word and Excel
# Themes - Easy personalisation of animated icons, screensavers, wallpapers and skins
# Speaker phone - Yes
# Memory Stick - Memory Stick PRO Duo slot for up to 4 GB removable memory. 64 MB supplied
# Flight mode - Includes option to turn Wi-Fi on
# Local and remote synchronisation - via SyncML
# Business telephony - Yes
# Java™ ME platform support - Both CDC and CLDC environments supported:

* JTWI 1.0 (JSR-185) consisting of Connected Limited Device Configuration (CLDC) 1.1 HI (JSR-139), MIDP 2.0 (JSR-118), WMA 1.1 (JSR-120). - PDA Optional Packages (JSR-75), Bluetooth (JSR-82), Wireless Messaging API 2.0 (JSR-205), Web Services (JSR-172), Mobile Media API (JSR-135), Mobile 3D Graphics (JSR-184), Nokia UI API 1.1
* Connected Device Configuration (CDC) 1.0 (JSR-36) - Foundation Profile 1.0 (JSR-46), Personal Profile 1.0 (JSR-62),PDA Optional Packages (JSR-75)

[Arne Anka]

SO WHICH IS IT?

zeem has got 240 by 320, 2.8inch screen. :confused:

What do you mean ? Where did you get 240 from ?

P910 size of 2.80", resolution of 208x320 pixles.
P990 size of 2.76", resolution of 220x320 pixles.

P990 has a physically smaller screen with more pixles meaning the screen appears sharper than P910.

[Jose_R.A.M]

From

hi guyz its here..
from 6 am till 2:30 pm i was waiting for the news :O *(yeah 6 hrs on net checkin all gadget sites) [now am i a SE fanboy :S]
http://www.symbianone.com/images/stories/P990.jpg
Technical specifications
Function or feature P990 support
Operating system Symbian OS v9.1
Software platform UIQ v3.0
Size 114 x 57 x 25
Weight 155g with battery and flip keyboard
Screen Large 2.8 inch QVGA (240 x 320) touch screen with 262 k colours that supports landscape view for camera, video imaging and browsing
Interaction Using touch screen, 3 way Jog Dial and dedicated buttons
WLAN 802.11b compliant
Bluetooth Includes car handsfree profile
Infrared Yes
USB Yes and charging via USB
UMTS E-GSM 900, GSM 1800, GSM 1900 and UMTS 2100
Application memory Up to 80 MB user free memory
Camera Integrated 2 megapixel CommuniCorder 24 bit colour depth, autofocus for still pictures, video clip recording and video calls
Video telephony Application included which allows video calls and video conferencing via the built-in dual cameras
Media player Supports playback, streaming and playlists Activity menu Customizable top level menu Upgradeable Via Sony Ericsson Update Service
FM/RDS radio Yes
Browser Opera browser (version 8) supporting frames and javascript
Push email Prepared for all major e-mail solutions including Research in Motion (Blackberry)
Messaging SMS, MMS and email
PIM applications Contacts, Calendar, To Do, Jotter for notes and sketches, Voice memo, Time and Calculator, converter, stop watch and timer
Viewers Microsoft Excel. Word, Powerpoint and Adobe PDF
Editors Microsoft Word and Excel
Themes Easy personalisation of animated icons, screensavers, wallpapers and skins
Speaker phone Yes
Memory Stick Memory Stick PRO Duo slot for up to 4 GB removable memory. 64 MB supplied
Flight mode Includes option to turn Wi-Fi on
Local and remote synchronisation via SyncML
Remote synchronisation via SyncML
Business telephony SIP-based integration with IP-PBX
Java™ ME platform support Both CDC and CLDC environments supported: JTWI 1.0 (JSR-185) consisting of Connected Limited Device Configuration (CLDC) 1.1 HI (JSR-139), MIDP 2.0 (JSR-118), WMA 1.1 (JSR-120).

* PDA Optional Packages (JSR-75)
* Bluetooth (JSR-82)
* Wireless Messaging API 2.0 (JSR-
* 205)
* Web Services (JSR-172)
* Mobile Media API (JSR-135)
* Mobile 3D Graphics (JSR-184)
* Nokia UI API 1.1

Connected Device Configuration (CDC) 1.0 (JSR-36)

* Foundation Profile 1.0 (JSR-46)
* Personal Profile 1.0 (JSR-62)
* PDA Optional Packages (JSR-75)

[brad]

Building on the success of previous P-series handsets, Sony Ericsson has announced the new WLAN and UMTS enabled P990 smartphone.http://www.mobileburn.com/review.jsp?Id=1698

[Jose_R.A.M]

Note Post 11 And Post 23 By Apocalypso And Brad Have Been Merged Into The Thread :d

[brad]

Sorry about all the moving around kids, the thread can stay here now :)

[tkao2025]

So the big difference, if I'm correct, is the support of UMTS, Wifi, 2mp cam, increased memory, better screen, new OS, and the support for blackberry push e-mail.

Well, I have to say that I don't love the design but the specs sound great. :D However, it did get slightly smaller but still retains its thickness, which was always my problem with the p910 the thickness. Also, I really never understood the wifi function. It's not really useable as it's still quite slow on a mobile and the screen doesn't fit onto one page. If you tried to fit on one page the letters are too small to read. The only use really is to download e-mail and that's if you can find a hot spot. I had the 9500 and found it to be not very useful and really never used it. I can understand if you have wifi on the 7710 or 770 cause of the screen size.

Regardless, I'll probably get it when it comes out:p

[Jose_R.A.M]

What do you mean ? Where did you get 240 from ?

P910 size of 2.80", resolution of 208x320 pixles.
P990 size of 2.76", resolution of 220x320 pixles.

P990 has a physically smaller screen with more pixles meaning the screen appears sharper than P910.

brad says screen is now 240x320 2.2inches

[brad]

Specially to report the news to MB i was awake from 6 am now im now makin a big fuss abt it..
I fink I like it..Next time your awake that late waiting for something, feel free to drop me an email y'all. I do accept tips on stories, and I'll probably wait with you! :D

[brad]

brad says screen is now 240x320 2.2inchesYes, confirmed.

[zeem35]

@JOSE :
Screen - Large 2.8 inch QVGA (240 x 320) touch screen with 262 k colours that supports landscape view for camera, video imaging and browsing
SOURCE SE PRESS RELEASE :D
linkhttp://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp?cc=global&lc=en&ver=4001&template=pc3_1_1&zone=pc&lm=pc3_1&prid=3982

[Jose_R.A.M]

@JOSE :
Screen - Large 2.8 inch QVGA (240 x 320) touch screen with 262 k colours that supports landscape view for camera, video imaging and browsing
SOURCE SE PRESS RELEASE :D
linkhttp://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp?cc=global&lc=en&ver=4001&template=pc3_1_1&zone=pc&lm=pc3_1&prid=3982

AIYA :confused: !!!

Well there we go straight from S.E themselves.

@Brad, wouldnt 2.2inch have been extremely small for touch screen?

ANYWAYS

What is the video recording capability of this? Any specs with that?

[brad]

Oh jeez, I'm really embarrased. I had 2.8" written on my notes, right in front of me, yet I put 2.2" in on THREE different occasions... I'm really having a blonde/lack of sleep moment here...

YES, the P990 screen is 2.8" 262k color QVGA, as stated on my snapshot on MB.

(no, I'm not actually blonde).

[Arne Anka]

Other sources claim 2.76" for P990 (sometimes SEs own figures are not correct either). Anyway, somewhere between 2.76" and 2.8" it is i.e. not much difference from P910 then.

[jayesh]

ahh finally what ive been waiting for.

80 mb onboard good size screen and powerful new os... i see umts ... but i am wondering about edge...

brad does this have edge... 3g in my part of the world is a bit away

[Arne Anka]

No Edge. Only 3G.

[difenbaker]

full specs from sE press release
# UMTS - E-GSM 900, GSM 1800, GSM 1900 and UMTS 2100

a coupla questions spring to mind regarding this...

- firstly, why UMTS and not WCDMA? Is umts better? faster?

- secondly, what does that "e-gsm" stand for?




cheers!

[difenbaker]

So the big difference, if I'm correct, is the support of UMTS, Wifi, 2mp cam, increased memory, better screen, new OS, and the support for blackberry push e-mail.

Well, I have to say that I don't love the design but the specs sound great. :D However, it did get slightly smaller but still retains its thickness, which was always my problem with the p910 the thickness. Also, I really never understood the wifi function. It's not really useable as it's still quite slow on a mobile and the screen doesn't fit onto one page. If you tried to fit on one page the letters are too small to read. The only use really is to download e-mail and that's if you can find a hot spot. I had the 9500 and found it to be not very useful and really never used it. I can understand if you have wifi on the 7710 or 770 cause of the screen size.

Regardless, I'll probably get it when it comes out:p

mmm... isn't it true that there are a lot of FREE hotspots there in the US? Starbucks offers them free, right? At least they did for a time when I was there.

Downloading emails and attachments are, I think, best left for laptops and notebooks. But WiFi would be nice to have still - if you wanna download music, ringtones, small pictures and other "smaller" data.


cheers!

[Arne Anka]

- firstly, why UMTS and not WCDMA? Is umts better? faster?


UMTS is the name of a 3G standard of which WCDMA is part of.
Usually when people say UMTS they mean WCDMA.


- secondly, what does that "e-gsm" stand for?


It stands for Extended GSM and is same as GSM, but uses a slightly different frequencies to extend the GSM network capacity. All modern phones supports it and should not be mixed up with EDGE.

[jayesh]

UMTS is the name of a 3G standard of which WCDMA is part of.
Usually when people say UMTS they mean WCDMA.



It stands for Extended GSM and is same as GSM, but uses a slightly different frequencies to extend the GSM network capacity. All modern phones supports it and should not be mixed up with EDGE.

well explained... and yeah u are right ... no edge.. which is going to be a pain.... i am damn used to edge now...

ive decided to hold off getting the p990... choosing to go with n70 for now maybe smaller screen and lack of wifi

[difenbaker]

UMTS is the name of a 3G standard of which WCDMA is part of.
Usually when people say UMTS they mean WCDMA.

thanks for the info. So that means that this phone will work with the wcdma networks being tested now by the telcos worldwide? Cool.

cheers!

[jayesh]

work with wcdma networks being tested worldwide???? it will work with any of the 63 deployed wcdma networks across asia and europe ....

3/vodafone in europe various networks in hk etc... there are quite a few wcdma networks now.


its an excellent fone ... i didnt expect any less than se.. however lack of edge is a serious handicap for me... edge is very good on my current network and my primary means of access for my lappie .

I am going to bypass this or wait for a proper 3g launch in my part of the world to get this fone.

N70 it is till then

[DarkElf]

hmm..there's this news that SE is removing T9 and replacing it with "Ezitext" for the P990, anybody knows what ezitext is?? has it been used in any SE or erricson or sony phone before?? is it any better then T9?

http://mobil.mkf.se/ArticlePages/200510/10/20051010125518_MOB367/20051010125518_MOB367.dbp.asp

[vx2]

600-700 USD?? Where'd you get that figure? Wow..i was gonna buy the N90 later this week but after seeing this..it costs cheaper than the n90 and more powerful..*doubts*

[commedecargons]

A 2.2" screen, are the ones on K700 if i'm not wrong, and the ones on Series 60s. It's impossible. Stats from Sony Ericsson's web page shows 2.8" 240x320.

[Box215]

Uh oh, please tell me there will be an American version of the phone, like with the P910a!! I need an 850 phone!!

[commedecargons]

NOPE. Maybe October of 2006? :D

[zeem35]

hehe.. i was bored so thought of makin da P990 black ;)

[edeab220]

I seriously don't understand...is the P990 bigger than the P910i? How the heck did they fit a 2.8in screen when the keyboard is now physically connected to the device?

[Jose_R.A.M]

I seriously don't understand...is the P990 bigger than the P910i? How the heck did they fit a 2.8in screen when the keyboard is now physically connected to the device?

Good designing??

The p910 is slightly larger than the p990

Also look how high up the screen begins on the p990 compared to the p910.

remarkable though. QVGA screen (just realised the n90 still has more pixels..but dang the screen is small) big enough for touch screen. I like it.

I will be wanting to break off the stupid keypad if possible.

[DarkElf]

yup i cannot get it either, how come does P990 have roughly the same screen size, an the measurments are smaller then that of a P910,
with the builtin qwerty keyboard the screen should be smaller or the body should be a bit bigger?? wht gives?!?!? :confused:

[difenbaker]

mmmm... someone should do a side-by-side comparison or photo, but unless reviewers get a prototype of the p990 this soon, then that wont happen. Lets wait for Bengalboy or Eldar to get one and put it on their sites... hehe :D

cheers!

[Jose_R.A.M]

mmmm... someone should do a side-by-side comparison or photo, but unless reviewers get a prototype of the p990 this soon, then that wont happen. Lets wait for Bengalboy or Eldar to get one and put it on their sites... hehe :D

cheers!

Yahuh! Im eagerly awaiting their review!

Been quite a while since a phone has buzzed me this much:D And not being a nokia, well...:D:D

[Boasy]

Yahuh! Im eagerly awaiting their review!

Been quite a while since a phone has buzzed me this much:D And not being a nokia, well...:D:D


A new Sony Ericsson P series fone is sure to create some serious buzz WHENEVER its released!!!

[Arne Anka]

yup i cannot get it either, how come does P990 have roughly the same screen size, an the measurments are smaller then that of a P910,
with the builtin qwerty keyboard the screen should be smaller or the body should be a bit bigger?? wht gives?!?!? :confused:

Not at all. Its all about making use of available space. P990makse use of the available space much better than P910. If P910 used the space in same way as P990, the screen could have been even bigger.

[Arne Anka]

has it been used in any SE or erricson or sony phone before?? is it any better then T9?

Yes it has. They used it on one or two models 3 years ago or so. Back then it was inferior to T9. This new version I have no clue how good it is. We have to wait for someone to test it.

600-700 USD?? Where'd you get that figure? Wow..i was gonna buy the N90 later this week but after seeing this..it costs cheaper than the n90 and more powerful..*doubts*

From the Swedish version of www.mobil.se. They said SE has a new price strategy to compete with Nokias N series, so P990 will be priced accordingly.

[brad]

UMTS is the name of a 3G standard of which WCDMA is part of.
Usually when people say UMTS they mean WCDMA.UMTS is an implementation in Asia (mainly) of a 3G data network, it uses W-CDMA as the underlying standard for communication. Heres a timeline:

W-CDMA was developed by NTT DoCoMo as the air interface for their 3G network FOMA. Later NTT DoCoMo submitted the specification to ITU as a candidate for the international 3G standard known as IMT-2000. The ITU eventually accepted W-CDMA as part of the IMT-2000 family of 3G standards.

Later, W-CDMA was selected as the air interface for UMTS, the 3G successor to GSM.

[brad]

ahh finally what ive been waiting for.

80 mb onboard good size screen and powerful new os... i see umts ... but i am wondering about edge...

brad does this have edge... 3g in my part of the world is a bit away
No EDGE at the moment, but I wouldn't be supprised to see a version of the P990 for the Americas that uses 850Mhz and EDGE, but drops the UMTS. You heard it here first...

[Box215]

No EDGE at the moment, but I wouldn't be supprised to see a version of the P990 for the Americas that uses 850Mhz and EDGE, but drops the UMTS. You heard it here first...

you just made my day!!!

[shaheen]

lovely phone buthe flipout keypad is ugly as hell

[commedecargons]

In respond to all the doubts bout the screen, i dunno whether its 2.8 or not, but its definitely 4mm shorter. But look at P910 and you guys can see roughly a total of more than 1 inch of length, was wasted space. :)

This P990 had the most ingenius form factor. literally, perfect.

[jayesh]

No EDGE at the moment, but I wouldn't be supprised to see a version of the P990 for the Americas that uses 850Mhz and EDGE, but drops the UMTS. You heard it here first...

well darn ok that leaves me out of the equation... i am in india and on a 1800 network ( and no i wont get an a model just for edge i roam around the countryside and neighbouring countries a lot and lack of 900 willl leave a hole the size of the cost of a new phone in my use )



anyway umts sounds good... im hoping we ramp upto 3g here quick

[oneclick]

EDGE is being tested now and is close to being implemented here in the phillippines. Too bad that this phone cannot use that service.

tnx-1clk

[Jose_R.A.M]

In respond to all the doubts bout the screen, i dunno whether its 2.8 or not, but its definitely 4mm shorter. But look at P910 and you guys can see roughly a total of more than 1 inch of length, was wasted space. :)

This P990 had the most ingenius form factor. literally, perfect.

er..u been sniffin to much car fumes comme

[hgautam]

I understood every bit of that perfectly!:D Joke. I love the way they say autofocus "o-tow-fow-cus" like a computer.

Anyways, is this the all amazing hermione then (the was p950)

Well if it is the p990 hurray! I like the name better.

The only thing i have quarms with is the permanent keypad but apparently thats a blessing. :confused:

I like the fact that the 2.8inch screen is the whole view finder for the 2.0mp camera with autofocus (no macro?).

What is the audio port of this? The S.E. one is it?


The camera has macro option. I have read it somewhere on the official site.

[carcomptoy]

Not at all. Its all about making use of available space. P990makse use of the available space much better than P910. If P910 used the space in same way as P990, the screen could have been even bigger.
Still though...the P990 still has some empty space, and yet still has the same screen with permanent keyboard in a smaller package? I mean, my math class is giving me a hard time right now, but even I know when something doesn't compute...enlighten me:D

[Arne Anka]

On P990 the screen is placed closer to the top than on P910 and hence making more room for the QWERTY keyboard.

[commedecargons]

Jose_Ram : I dont understand .... why? I do think it is perfect, size wise, form factor wise. :)

carcomptoy: P990's screen is 4mm shorter than P910's get a ruler and deduct that amount of length from P910's screen and you'll notice a more squarish shape, rather than the 4mm longer, rectangular. (hmm... its been a while since i used these words...)

[Jose_R.A.M]

The camera has macro option. I have read it somewhere on the official site.

Dang

Still though...the P990 still has some empty space, and yet still has the same screen with permanent keyboard in a smaller package? I mean, my math class is giving me a hard time right now, but even I know when something doesn't compute...enlighten me

Well..they cant exactly have a phone which is just a screen, although it would be nice, lots of scratch factor.

Its confusing having so many p990 threads. Everyone has said the same thing at least once in the threads like its new info.

[carcomptoy]

Jose_Ram : I dont understand .... why? I do think it is perfect, size wise, form factor wise. :)

carcomptoy: P990's screen is 4mm shorter than P910's get a ruler and deduct that amount of length from P910's screen and you'll notice a more squarish shape, rather than the 4mm longer, rectangular. (hmm... its been a while since i used these words...)
I realize the more squarish shape of the P990, but that doesn't account for the keyboard...how much closer to the top is the screen then? I mean, is it enough for the keyboard??

idk all I can say is there is no way that screen is not smaller...definitely would have lost some length due to the keypad:cool:
http://phonearena.com/imgs/pics/phones_rebuilt/P910-3_ver2.jpghttp://phonearena.com/imgs/pics/phones_rebuilt/Sony-Ericsson-P990_3_ver2.jpg

[DarkElf]

this is confusing??@!?

[Jose_R.A.M]

Isnt the screen wider? what with the extra pixels?

[commedecargons]

The screen is SHORTER for christ sake!!!!!!! Who's says its the same screen!?!? did you all know how screens were measured? The 2 diagnol's length that is, so if i compensate a shorter screen with a wider side, i can sum up 2.8" as well !!!!!!!!!!

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a115/microvault/P950---Size-compared-to-P910-and-k7.jpg

[commedecargons]

me fink di screen izalot higher !

[Jose_R.A.M]

The screen is SHORTER for christ sake!!!!!!! Who's says its the same screen!?!? did you all know how screens were measured? The 2 diagnol's length that is, so if i compensate a shorter screen with a wider side, i can sum up 2.8" as well !!!!!!!!!!

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a115/microvault/P950---Size-compared-to-P910-and-k7.jpg

yeah i know they measure it diagonally..geez..."duh fact of the year" :D, thats why i mentioned it being wider. I just assumed ppl would know what i were talkin bout.

and as forementioned, yeah the screen is a lot higher.

[commedecargons]

LOL.... my explanations for all kinds of err.. "facts" were.. often not aimed towards you Jose, i know you knew it. :D Its for others.

[Jose_R.A.M]

lol @ comme. :D i think our guys would know screens are measured diagonally. lol.

[difenbaker]

mmm... I dont think that the size difference is only 4mm.

http://img5.picsplace.to/img5/9/P950--P910.jpg
.... even we say that it's situated higher to the top of the phone, the space gained by that repositioning looks not enough to say that the screen size is the same.

take a look at the distance between the 2 red lines - which is roughly the height of the keyboard. now take a look at the distance between the two blue lines - which is roughly the height that was adjusted in the p910 to make it the same level in the p990.

Like what car said - do you still think that it's enough to fit in a qwerty keypad?


cheers!

[difenbaker]

I think, in my opinion, even if the p990 screen is wider - it is around 1/3 shorter in height than the screen of the p910.

cheers!

[Jose_R.A.M]

Is that picture the actual size comparisons of the phones? i thought someone just got images and put them size by side. cool though, p990 is relatively small for pseries

[difenbaker]

Is that picture the actual size comparisons of the phones? i thought someone just got images and put them size by side. cool though, p990 is relatively small for pseries

yeah, thought about that too.... in any case, if the picture of the p990 is smaller in that photo (looks smaller than real-life, doesn't it?), and the actual is a bit bigger - then distances (between the red lines) would be bigger too.

meaning that it makes little difference - the proportion is just the same, the screen is still a 1/3 or maybe 1/4 shorter than the p910.

(I meant height not width)

cheers!

[commedecargons]

mmm... I dont think that the size difference is only 4mm.

http://img5.picsplace.to/img5/9/P950--P910.jpg
.... even we say that it's situated higher to the top of the phone, the space gained by that repositioning looks not enough to say that the screen size is the same.

take a look at the distance between the 2 red lines - which is roughly the height of the keyboard. now take a look at the distance between the two blue lines - which is roughly the height that was adjusted in the p910 to make it the same level in the p990.

Like what car said - do you still think that it's enough to fit in a qwerty keypad?


cheers!

bummer..... The space from the QuickShare logo to the end of the screen, indicated by the red line, plus the 4mm shorter space, indicated by the blue line, and the pushed upwards screen, indicated by the green line, makes space for the qwerty.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a115/microvault/SonyEricsson-Japan5.jpg

[im92109210]

hey people, any one got any price assumptions or price range ? and not just a guess :P

[carcomptoy]

LOL what do any of these lines mean??:p j/k;)

So, fine, it does make space for the QWERTY keyboard, but just judging the screen sizes side to side, there is no way that the P990 screen is the same LENGTH as the P910...the latter's screen is just way too rectangular! Give me some screen dimensions:cool:

[commedecargons]

LIKE I SAID car.... THEY DO NOT HAVE THE SAME LENGTH !! ITS SHORTER. WIDER, HENCE ACHIEVING A DIAGNOL LENGTH OF 2.8".

[Jose_R.A.M]

LIKE I SAID car.... THEY DO NOT HAVE THE SAME LENGTH !! ITS SHORTER. WIDER, HENCE ACHIEVING A DIAGNOL LENGTH OF 2.8".

LOL...i knew ud be slightly annoyed :D...

Maybe your right comme, and not everyone knows what me and you know:D

[commedecargons]

oops, sorry car... hope u dun mind.... i didnt really mean it. :)
(hmm when did CAPS started meaning heavy tones... :confused:)

[difenbaker]

LIKE I SAID car.... THEY DO NOT HAVE THE SAME LENGTH !! ITS SHORTER. WIDER, HENCE ACHIEVING A DIAGNOL LENGTH OF 2.8".

yup, totally agree - it IS shorter and wider. (as evidenced now by this photo)

http://www.mobile-review.com/review/image/sonyeric/p990/pic1-1.jpg



cheers!

[commedecargons]

anyway, i'd prefer they tucked in a 3.5" lcd screen, totally taking the area where its now occupied by the qwerty, and move the qwerty to the flip as of wat was done with p910.

[Jose_R.A.M]

I'd rather the whole thing just be a tablet, no buttons except the on one.

The flip they should move it..er..around 3000mm to the right, near the trash can, no in it.

:D KIDDIN.

i STILL quite like it, though. Its just a case of seeing past the aesthetics now.

[commedecargons]

then u're better off with some imates... which makes dialing cumbersome.... (not very, but more at least)

[carcomptoy]

oops, sorry car... hope u dun mind.... i didnt really mean it. :)
(hmm when did CAPS started meaning heavy tones... :confused:)
hahaha no problem...I deserved it, especially after seeing difenbaker's pic/post;)

[shaheen]

i wonder if the flips removable

[Jose_R.A.M]

then u're better off with some imates... which makes dialing cumbersome.... (not very, but more at least)

I spose, but their camera...hmmm..

[commedecargons]

p990's still the choice? but.... i'm drooling over W900... seriously; but i dont like how it looked, why dont they made it looked lije the s700??!?!

[carcomptoy]

I kinda like the new angled shape...the S700i always looked like a fattened brick or something...like a log of meatloaf or fruitcake:p

[commedecargons]

I kinda like the new angled shape...the S700i always looked like a fattened brick or something...like a log of meatloaf or fruitcake:p

Serious? http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a115/microvault/w850s700csukva1jd.jpg

[Jose_R.A.M]

I like the shape of the s700i more, but maybe it would look better in white.

The p990 should come in ceramic white..that would imo look cool :P

[carcomptoy]

eh I can't get myself to like that bulged-look that the S700i...a ceramic white version would definitely make it look infinitely better! Ditto with the P990!

I don't understand though...why is the W900's screen smaller? Why are we moving backwards??

[Jose_R.A.M]

Have you used the s700i? Its much better in real life.



eh I can't get myself to like that bulged-look that the S700i...a ceramic white version would definitely make it look infinitely better! Ditto with the P990!

I don't understand though...why is the W900's screen smaller? Why are we moving backwards??
About screen size..i think its the same. on the s700i the black bit surrounding it gives the illusion its bigger.

If it is bigger, only slightly. But probably more or less the same.

[carcomptoy]

I haven't used one personally personally, but I've seen the ones from like the phone stores (the S710a through Cingular) and I still think it's massive...

I'm sure the features make up for it, as many older phones, but for a non-smartphone, it's definitely tubby:cool:

[Box215]

I don't understand though...why is the W900's screen smaller? Why are we moving backwards??

2.2" on the W900 vs. 2.3" on the S700...not really that big of a deal.

[carcomptoy]

hehe okay...like Jose said, the framing around the screen on the S700i makes it seem bigger...I'm gullible:p

[commedecargons]

and we go on into talking bout S700, completely forgetting the magnificent P990.... lol