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Jose_R.A.M
09-01-2005, 05:04 PM
Mobile Tv Gets Good Reception
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Phone giant Nokia (showthread.php?t=10735#) completes the most extensive trial yet of cellphone (showthread.php?t=10735#) TV technology - it concludes that quality on the move is sharp and steady


WE TALK on them, send text messages (showthread.php?t=10735#) with them, surf the web, play games and use them to take pictures. And soon, if cellphone makers have their way, we will be watching TV on our phones (showthread.php?t=10735#) too.

Cellphone giant Nokia last month passed a milestone in the drive to introduce mobile (showthread.php?t=10735#) TV when it completed the most extensive trial to date of the technology. This week, the company released a report on its trial of the mobile TV system, known as Digital Video (showthread.php?t=10735#) Broadcast-Handset (DVB-H), with Finnish state broadcaster YLE.

The six-month trial in the Finnish capital Helsinki culminated in live coverage of the World Athletics Championships there last month. It successfully demonstrated that the technology can deliver sharp, steady pictures with clear stereo sound to people on the move.

The 500 people in the trial paid a flat rate of ?5 per month on top of their standard cellphone subscription, plus extra for sports highlights such as Formula 1 car racing. This allowed them to use modified Nokia 7710 multimedia (showthread.php?t=10735#) phones to watch mobile TV for an average of 30 minutes a day.
Using a similar phone lent by organisers of the trial, I was able to watch clear pictures of the athletics on the 7 centimetre screen, as well as news from CNN and the BBC, while travelling around the city on a bus.

Smaller technical tests of the system have previously taken place in the US, Austratila, Malaysia, France and South Africa. And this month, UK cellphone operator O2 (showthread.php?t=10735#) will hand out phones to 300 families in Oxford to gauge how adults - and more particularly their children - use the devices to watch news, pop video chart shows and cartoons.....

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Bascially DVB-H sends packets of information like on the net,

Pictures are very clear, even when constantly on the move

Since mobile displays are small, not much detail is needed so lower data rates only, thus more channel viewing options, up to 30, unlike 5/6 on terrestrial.

Problems...Small text such as subtitles will be nea rimpossible to view...may introduce "zooming" option

Potentially more serious is problem of battery life (showthread.php?t=10735#)..

"Batteries small and light enough to be suitable for a mobile phone (showthread.php?t=10735#) will only be able to provide around 3 hours of TV viewing, and this will be reduced further if the phone is also used to make calls. Nokia ecpects to increase this to 4 or 5 hours eventually. But users are not going to be impressed if after watching a football game they cannot make an urget call because their battery is flat"

666joe
09-01-2005, 05:24 PM
Gotta say it ain't bad from what I've seen....heard some of tuner clip ons bulky but non battery draining....

Hoping it moves gets go ahead nationally....yet you'll need a licence for them.

Jose_R.A.M
09-01-2005, 05:36 PM
I wanna move to oxford and get a free phone!

This is very much unlike from samsung's tv phone right? Thats just got a normal tv aerial...forgot the model.

666joe
09-01-2005, 06:05 PM
Not really sure - think it's the same principal piggybacking on standard vhf signal but different processing in the unit/clip-on... Can't see how they'll chage unless device is smart and logs with base, but more than sure adult and specilaist channels will be on offer.

As for moving to Oxford - they got a laserquest and cheap student bars ! see you there..

zalameh1
09-02-2005, 12:41 AM
this still works over the internet doesnt it? NEC had a phone with a built in TV Tuner. i dont know how that works but i think that its like a normal TV.

Jose_R.A.M
09-02-2005, 02:52 AM
Not really sure - think it's the same principal piggybacking on standard vhf signal but different processing in the unit/clip-on... Can't see how they'll chage unless device is smart and logs with base, but more than sure adult and specilaist channels will be on offer.

As for moving to Oxford - they got a laserquest and cheap student bars ! see you there..

lol...my cuz is studying french/spanish there :S ..id rather stay away! lol.

Student bars maybe cheap but housing...nah..Cardiff's where its at! lol :P

I didnt realise that the tv theyre putting in (before these articles) was not standard arial stuff (i was thinking..how is that new?) but its real cool to realise on board, constant clear tv reception. Perfect for long train journeys...

carcomptoy
09-02-2005, 08:41 PM
I wanna move to oxford and get a free phone!

This is very much unlike from samsung's tv phone right? Thats just got a normal tv aerial...forgot the model.
It was the P705...

I just wish manufacturers would have more analog tv phones...instead of DVB-H. I guess it's more money for the networks and all, but honestly, talk about gouging the customers!

commedecargons
09-03-2005, 12:40 AM
If only when they stream the contents of what you wanna watch, together with electricity to power up ur cell.

Jose_R.A.M
09-03-2005, 02:49 AM
It was the P705...

I just wish manufacturers would have more analog tv phones...instead of DVB-H. I guess it's more money for the networks and all, but honestly, talk about gouging the customers!

Yeah analogue! lol

But there will be problems with reception, its not truly "mobile tv" since you wont be picking up good reception 24/7 unlike with DVB-H.

Also only 5 channels (thats how many terrestrial we get here)
compared to the claimed 30

carcomptoy
09-03-2005, 01:43 PM
Yeah, but heck it's free!:rolleyes:

Jose_R.A.M
09-03-2005, 02:00 PM
LOL. Yeah. ok then.

There should be more analogue tv phones

3gpeasy
09-03-2005, 05:13 PM
is this a different technology than i use to watch telly on my 6680? that just uses the 3g signal

sorry too tired to research the terms

Jose_R.A.M
09-03-2005, 05:29 PM
Digital Video Broadcast-Handset DVB-H

Yeah I think different technology. :)

carcomptoy
09-03-2005, 07:45 PM
What do you mean the 3G signal? Do you mean streaming vids over a website?

Yeah, this is like dedicated TV innit?

Jose_R.A.M
09-04-2005, 02:36 AM
Yup, this is like dedicated TV.

3gpeasy
09-09-2005, 03:23 PM
well orange tv is an icon in my menu that takes me to a multi-channel feed selector. it's all live (or 2-3 second delay) and 24 hr, so it's not like a standard video download or whatever.

i can beleive this is a different technology, (DVB-H) just not sure how it's any different from a consumer point of view

Jose_R.A.M
09-09-2005, 03:53 PM
What kind of channels are available on orange tv?

3gpeasy
09-11-2005, 04:09 PM
What kind of channels are available on orange tv?

it keeps changing, but today it's CNN, ITN news, ITN weather, the cartoon network, toon world, comedy time, shorts tv, the fashion channel, and extreme sports.

although one of the techies at work claims to have converted his to receive "channel 69" but i've seen no proof of this so i don't beleive it.

carcomptoy
09-11-2005, 11:03 PM
LOL there'll always be the perverts...:p

You guys are so lucky...you can watch TV on your phones...