How To Pasaload???

[text2text]

Hello! Newbie here! I have a question for those who has smart philippine sim card. Im outside the country of philippines so my sim is in roaming. I need to do a pasaload to my family in pinas. My sister told me to type her number and also the amount and send it to 808 but it didn't work. I think the way to do the pasaload thingy is different from non roaming to roaming on. HELP ME GUYS PLEASE :confused: ................. I appreciate any response. :)

[carcomptoy]

I don't know that it's possible for YOU to pasaload to them when you're roaming...text codes are different so even if it is possible, it'd be under different numbers.

[avelino23]

dont even bother to make pasaload from this side of the world.
All you have to do is ask one of your friends or relatives in the phils. to make e-load to your number and you'll get the same day. Pasaload is only possible while your in the Philippines and not in roaming. That is what my experiences tells me....coz I have a smart roaming simcard and I just ask my family to e-load for me whenever I need it.
Cheers,
Avelino

[carcomptoy]

How do you e-load? For some reason, my load wasn't even expired, and it randomly stopped getting service...

[avelino23]

Just ask anyone you know to make an eload on ur behalf. I think the max is 200 pesos ( That was last year, I dont know now).
BY the way which part of the world are u in right now, carampoy?

[Jose_R.A.M]

is pasaload only available in fils?

[carcomptoy]

heh well my profile says El Paso, TX, so yeah...U.S.A.

Well, it can originate only in the Philippines, but the destination can be anywhere a Globe phone has service...

[avelino23]

I think its only in the Philippines we have this pasaload.....for smart and globe subscriber but I dont know about in the other countries. Well, I am not surprise of this, because Filipinos have a special love affair with texting. Almost everyone you meet there have a mobile phone and they don't usually use it for voice call but rather SMS or text messages. Which is quite practical I believe, because voice calls cost a lot more than SMS.
So, Those people in the network phone provider came up with this idea. Although I must admit some people use it a devious way. Like my sister in law, She have this habit of taking credit from my phone or any member of the family. She will make pasaload from my phone to her phone and .....I dont have enough credit or load on my phone while she have mine. But I dont mind most of the time coz coz she is young and like to play games.
Anyway, I dont think this type of service (pasaload) will ever catch on in the west. Most of the mobile phone users are using monthly billing and pre-pay or pay as go isn't much practical because it cost a lot more than monthly pay.
The only thing I notice in the phils is......when u have a montly pay contact, most of the time the phone is not included. Not like here in the UK. where u can get the latest model when u want a upgrade or a new contract. Although they say it's free, but I think you still gonna pay for it thru hidden charges or something.
Cheers Guys,
Avelino ;)

[f_alejandro]

Yep. That's true. Text messaging here in the Philippines is the hardcore operation of mobile cell phones. Here, text messaging is still the primary medium in terms of mobile communication. Know what, I'm enjoying the new network's free call and free text from Sun Cellular. It's really amazing. just load US$6.5 and you can enjoy a month of free SMS and Call whenever you want. My hands sometimes feel so numb because of the unlimited text messaging to and from my friends. Another great thing is that I'm enjoying Sun's free GPRS access. And yeah, Philippines - dubbed as the Central Texter's Capital of the World. LOL. In other words, matatakaw mag SMS ang mga tao dito. hehehehe. :D

Hey Avelino, Smart Communications is testing EDGE together with nokia now. Another great thing about Smart's other feature is the Smart Wi-Fi service. This is not just a normal wi-fi. they are using cell sites to conduct data transmission. so even if you are on the go, on mountains and lakes and so on, you can access the internet using your laptop or other compatible hardware. the only drawback is the limited 128 KBps transmision. but it's not that bad. :)

Globe Telecom, Smart and Sun Suncellular are unable to make their move on 3G coz NTC is giving them an ultimatum to bid. But Globe and others didnt agree with this. They said they should not bid because it's merely increasing the speed of their networks. That is from 2.5G to 3G. And that I don't agree with the NTC's bid procedure as well. I'm pissed off... :mad: I mean c'mon, the Philippine market has the latest 3G handsets and yet unable to use their potential... :cool:

[Jose_R.A.M]

Yep. That's true. Text messaging here in the Philippines is the hardcore operation of mobile cell phones. Here, text messaging is still the primary medium in terms of mobile communication. Know what, I'm enjoying the new network's free call and free text from Sun Cellular. It's really amazing. just load US$6.5 and you can enjoy a month of free SMS and Call whenever you want. My hands sometimes feel so numb because of the unlimited text messaging to and from my friends. Another great thing is that I'm enjoying Sun's free GPRS access. And yeah, Philippines - dubbed as the Central Texter's Capital of the World. LOL. In other words, matatakaw mag SMS ang mga tao dito. hehehehe. :D

UNLIMITED CALLS AND TEXT :eek::eek::eek:

[f_alejandro]

UNLIMITED CALLS AND TEXT :eek::eek::eek:

can't believe it huh? well that's true. that is with the same network only. And that is with Sun Cellular.

There are three competing cellular network here in the Philippines.
Globe Telecom
Smart Communications
and the new Sun Cellular (approx. 2 yrs now in service)

Globe Telecom and Smart sued Sun Cellular for this service. But their demand was trashed!!! hahahaha. Imagine the 5,000 to 7,000 subcribers swtiching to Sun Cellular everyday... Totally a massive destruction to Globe and Smart's income.

So to "conjure" their subscriber's, Globe and Smart attemtpted the same approach... BUT! they failed. their network crammed like hell. unable to call and text. so they stopped the service offering for less than a month.

In conclusion, although Sun is a very new cellular service firm, Sun has powerful facilities to accomodate text traffic although calls are somewhat hard to perform also. But txt messaging is as fast as light. LOL.

It's good to have Sun now here. In fact, Globe and Smart are outsmarting us already. imagine the non-sense tones and pictures they were sending to their subscribers with charges and that if you deactivate the service, they keep on sending and charging. totally pissed off. :mad:

[Jose_R.A.M]

Ah, well not so good if its same network, cos i cant keep an eye on which networks my friends are on so ill probably end up racking some huge bill. But since texts are 1php (thats what my cuz says) i dont think it would be so bad.

I remember when i was looking to get a 6600 a little sun cellular booth, which i thought would be gone by the time i come back because it didnt look like a very good company.

When i come back i think ill either use globe or smart, most prob smart.

[f_alejandro]

I remember when i was looking to get a 6600 a little sun cellular booth, which i thought would be gone by the time i come back because it didnt look like a very good company.

When i come back i think ill either use globe or smart, most prob smart.

well Sun is improving time-to-time. yes it's true that 6 or 9 months ago, their service sucks but noticing that it is a company with really great potential and that is really what happening right now. calls are not that good right now, specially during night time.

but i'm looking on the brigter side, Globe and Smart during their first 3 years of service is not that good as well. i remember their party lines and hard times during balance inquiry. their pasa load and e-load sucks too during the first 6 months. until they fix them gradually and sometimes having problems too.

NTC here is favoring to Sun already for their "economical and practical" service. :) Next year would be a cross-finger for us Sun subscribers. They are planning to get aerospace. They want to invest on satellites for orbit to lessen their cell site buildings. they said, it's more practical this way since if you are on higher and remote places, even smart, globe and sun are unable to supply cell site signals. FIN. :)

[carcomptoy]

I would probably get Sun when I come back...I'll probably have a "domestic triband" phone w/o the 900MHz and so it'd be good to be on a 1800MHz-only network. I like Globe though, but I think they're still mainly dependent on 900MHz, if I'm not mistaken...plus the unlimited GPRS you said; THAT'S AWESOME! Not many of my relatives have SUN though, although that might've changed. And as for the satellite GSM, wouldn't that cost more though??

[f_alejandro]

I would probably get Sun when I come back...I'll probably have a "domestic triband" phone w/o the 900MHz and so it'd be good to be on a 1800MHz-only network. I like Globe though, but I think they're still mainly dependent on 900MHz, if I'm not mistaken...plus the unlimited GPRS you said; THAT'S AWESOME! Not many of my relatives have SUN though, although that might've changed. And as for the satellite GSM, wouldn't that cost more though??

yep. sun is becoming common now here. my family has switched to sun already. boy, we have saved so much on communication expenses. i mean before, with other networks, we comsume almost $450/month for calls/text including the 5 family members except dad whose in Spain. My fat sister is the most addict in text and calls. LOL. hahaha. me, simply text messaging. it's the best way on chasing and alluring girls. hahahah. :D

anyway, sun can also roam. i don't know which country yet. regarding the price on aerospace communication, i have no idea yet or if it will really materialize but i'm sure it will be cheap like always. Sun, ang sagot sa matatakaw mag text na masa!!!! hehe. ;)

[Jose_R.A.M]

i dont like the name sun cellular. Theres too many syllables, also its not so cheesy, like GLOBE, or SMART.. LOL.

$450 usd? sheesh!

[carcomptoy]

$450 geez! That's more than I spent when I roamed in Italy! LOL I love the names of the telcos in Asia...more interesting and imaginative. The name "Globe" evokes travel and worldliness, while "Smart" evokes intelligence...what I really like is NTT DoCoMo. Just sounds so complex and sophisticated...

:p:p:p:p

[Jose_R.A.M]

$450 geez! That's more than I spent when I roamed in Italy! LOL I love the names of the telcos in Asia...more interesting and imaginative. The name "Globe" evokes travel and worldliness, while "Smart" evokes intelligence...what I really like is NTT DoCoMo. Just sounds so complex and sophisticated...

:p:p:p:p

and sun cellular...yuck.

I think Smart is a cooler network to be on than globe.

[carcomptoy]

Why Smart?

[f_alejandro]

$450 usd? sheesh!

Yes. And i am seeing no problem with that. communication here in the philippines is quite expensive - with Globe ans Smart. Plus the tax + GRPS service.but that before. Sun has cut things out beautifully... and were spending very less now.

and sun cellular...yuck.
I think Smart is a cooler network to be on than globe.


i really don't get it... i mean nobody is forcing somebody to switch to Sun Cellular. :cool: and besides, it's merely base on preference. If you are enjoying Smart and Globe, then it's good. :)

[f_alejandro]

Why Smart?

Well to be honest, Globe Telecom is the number one and still reigning network here in the Philippines. Next to that is Smart, and the last is Sun Cellular.

Globe Telecom is a full blown Digital Network whereas Smart is upto now, partly analog. Smart raise their market share by means of using celebrity artists for TV commercial. Globe also do this but on a very low profile. They focus much on the professionalism of their commercial by showing authentic ads. But over all, all of them serve our country at their very best. :)

[f_alejandro]

and sun cellular...yuck.


By the way, Sun Cellular is synonymous to Digitel also. We utterly call it Sun but many also refer to it as Digitel.

it's listed here: http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_ph.shtml

so which one sucks more? :D

[ricref]

Globe has the most subscribers when it comes to the postpaid market. 700T
SMART 220T and SUN 25T

There are actually 5 brands operating in the philippines.
For Prepaid SMART 16M Globe 11M TalknText 5M TouchMobile 2.5M, SUN 1.5M and Addict Mobile 300T


Globes is clearly ahead when it comes to the clas A & B market as it is partly owned by the Ayalas while SMART by the pangilinans and SUN by the Gokongwei's.
SMART overly compensates it on the class C, D and E market.

Which network do you prefer?
I prefer Globe. I want to be identified to be in the class A&B segment :-)
and my number is in 0917-8xxx series.

Its just a matter of personal preference :-)

[Jose_R.A.M]

Why Smart?

it reminds me of orange/3 ...cool young hip network, compared to GLOBE or Sun Cellular which are like T-mob or Bt Cellnet..:p

[carcomptoy]

They're all trying to be young and hip what're you talking about...the whole talk & text with your kaibigan, Globe with Jasmine Trias advertising...it's annoying, cause the advertising works better on old people:p

[Carls01]

For those asking on how to e-load, this site may help.

https://www.pldtonline.com/

You may purchase as much eload here and send it either to the SMART you use fro roaming or to any other SAMRT user in Phil. Immediate loading - like after pressing the confirm button.

They have many other stuff in there, too!!

I've been using it -am using Paypal for payment, but they accept Credit card payments as well.

[carcomptoy]

What about Globe? I've heard you have to do it throught BPI...which is stupid cause you have to have an account:rolleyes:

[Jose_R.A.M]

They're all trying to be young and hip what're you talking about...the whole talk & text with your kaibigan, Globe with Jasmine Trias advertising...it's annoying, cause the advertising works better on old people:p

who's jasmine trias?

[pinoypower]

who's jasmine trias?

jasmine trias was the fil-am teen who made it to the top 3 in last season's american idol. the philippines went gaga when she went to the philippines early this year, and she was the biggest celebrity in the land in that time. she made some tv ads while she was there, and the one she did with smart airs every 15minutes in all major tv networks. that was before i left philippines in june, just dont know if it's still the same at present.

[pinoypower]

roaming wise, Smart is a better choice. outbound txt is 5pesos cheaper on smart compared to globe. Smart roaming in the UK is top notch.

[Jose_R.A.M]

jasmine trias was the fil-am teen who made it to the top 3 in last season's american idol. the philippines went gaga when she went to the philippines early this year, and she was the biggest celebrity in the land in that time. she made some tv ads while she was there, and the one she did with smart airs every 15minutes in all major tv networks. that was before i left philippines in june, just dont know if it's still the same at present.

really? thas cool. who won that series? (i dont watch american idol much) was it that blonde girl? (i think first kelly, then some big guy, then this blonde girl)

[pinoypower]

really? thas cool. who won that series? (i dont watch american idol much) was it that blonde girl? (i think first kelly, then some big guy, then this blonde girl)

nope, it was a black girl, i think the girl's name is fantasia... dont know her surname... oh by the way, it's not the recent season (the one won by the blonde girl) but the one right before it.

[Jose_R.A.M]

ah, i didnt know bout that one! wow, theres been more american idol that pop idol (uk version)...even know its uk show (they did po stars rivals...x factor and diff shows, but idol is best...i dunno why they bothered making other spin offs. 98% of the people there become forgotten)

5php for roaming text? thats tidy. here its 50php

[pinoypower]

i was talking about the txt cost comparison between globe ang smart. globe charges php25 while smart is only php20, hence the 5php difference... calls by the way is php50. you're in the uk right? it should be the same for you....

[carcomptoy]

What about the US? Darn I should've gone with Smart...

Yeah, it was Kelly Clarkson, Ruben Studdard, Fantasia Barrino, and now Carrie Underwood...Kelly's the best hands down

[pinoypower]

cost i think its pretty much the same, or perhaps with just a little margin... havent checked the us roaming charges though.

roaming activation / deactivation with smart is much easier too. all you gotta do is send a txt massage and the roaming will be activated / deactivated in an hour, whereas with globe, you need to have the roaming application done personally in a globe telecom center - too much of a hassle! whats more funny is they'll ask for a supporting document, say an identification card, before they process your roaming application! what a crap! lol

[Jose_R.A.M]

yeah, kelly rocks. Aint heard of the others, but she's hot and she's got some fresh sound!

Anyway, yeah im in uk...while romaing calls and text are dead expensive (if ur sim even works that is_ text at 50php and calls are like 100php per min thats making and receiving.

[carcomptoy]

Yeah I know I was freaking out cause I didn't activate my roaming and my aunt had to do it for me...stupid Globe

In any case, it went unregistered on me and I think next time I'm in the P.I. I'll get Smart...or Sun maybe

[Jose_R.A.M]

Go Smart!

[pinoypower]

go Smart by all means! hey, im not promoting smart but they just got the best service available for us abroad...

and dont ever try giving Sun a second thought. when i was still in the philippines, i took the bait they were flaunting (the free 24/7 calls and txts) and i end up very much disappointed. the calls were limited for 5 minutes per dial and you'll never be able to make any contact when you dial again. what's worse is you'll never make any call at night! the lines are crammed like hell! we just took the Sun's service literally, meaning you'll just make some calling while the sun is still up there, otherwise you'll spend the whole moon-lighted night dialling! lol

in the case of globe roaming, they will only have the service activated within a six-month period. they'll cut your roaming off without any notice at all once you reach the 6-month period. you need to re-apply again for another six months and it just gets repeated...

smart roaming remains active until you turn it off, that's the big difference.

[carcomptoy]

DAMN I should've gone with Smart...AGH stupid 6 month expiration...

Maybe I'll get my relatives to send me a Smart SIM card...:rolleyes:

[jayesh]

the current american idol was carrie underwood a southern gal good voice excellent vocal abilility ...

[Jose_R.A.M]

the current american idol was carrie underwood a southern gal good voice excellent vocal abilility ...

yeah i watched that oNE (FINAL) because I lost my remote...

...bo..wasnt he the loser?

[jayesh]

yea bo lost... oh well carrie was the better singer and she carried one of my fav songs off quite well ...

[Jose_R.A.M]

hmm..what exactly has happened to all these american idol winners, except Miss Clarkson?!

Back to topic.

I think PASALOAD should be a feature implimented in the UK too!
It would be so useful when you need to text and uve run out, but u do not want to use your friends phone..just ask for some credit!> hehe

btw, what is the maximum you can send via PASALOAD? also can you convert PASALOAD (as in normal credit) into money?

[carcomptoy]

Well, there is a feature where you can send money over txt...it's called something else though I can't remember. Obviously it's targeted towards relatives overseas so they can send much needed money...

[pinoypower]

smart calls it smart padala, while globe is gcash... they have the same purpose, to send money via text. i guess, both can be used to send money from abroad. the recipient has to go to a smart or globe center or any of their accredited establishments to exchange the txt with cash. i havent tried the service though, scared to have the message misent to someone else! lol

[carcomptoy]

Hahaha yeah no kidding!

[Jose_R.A.M]

smart calls it smart padala, while globe is gcash... they have the same purpose, to send money via text. i guess, both can be used to send money from abroad. the recipient has to go to a smart or globe center or any of their accredited establishments to exchange the txt with cash. i havent tried the service though, scared to have the message misent to someone else! lol

wow! is this just a pnoy idea or is this available else where?

[pinoypower]

both smart and globe claimed they each won a gsm award for innovation from some gsm conventions, but i havent really bothered to check if both claims were factual.... whats important is the service is there to help the pinoys.

gcash is even accepted as a payment method at ebay.ph. :-p

[carcomptoy]

HOW AWESOME! If only I could use my mobile phone account as a credit card...hmmm the possibilities!:p

[Jose_R.A.M]

HOW AWESOME! If only I could use my mobile phone account as a credit card...hmmm the possibilities!:p

Yup, probably much easier than paypal..just text cash! lol...but security issues..imagine loosing ur mobile and it had like 400 bux in it?!

[carcomptoy]

LOL but again there would be passcodes and stuff...hopefully, they wouldn't be stupid enough as to save the passcodes in their phones though:rolleyes:

[Jose_R.A.M]

still, you've lost cash, no matter if someone finds it and can get in or not.

[carcomptoy]

True that...that's why I'm scared of prepaid because it's not like you can get a replacement SIM can you?

[Jose_R.A.M]

you cant with contract either right?

CPW tells me if i lose my phone on contract . will still have to pay the remaining months (if any)

[jayesh]

you cant with contract either right?

CPW tells me if i lose my phone on contract . will still have to pay the remaining months (if any)

yea u can get your sim right back prepaid or contract. its just a chip. after all they do is give u a new sim for a nominal charge

[Jose_R.A.M]

well that's what the CPW guys told me...well ...they aint exactly the most reliable of sources when it comes to phone technicalities

[carcomptoy]

I know for sure you can get a replacement SIM for contract, but how would it work for prepaid, if they don't even have you under their system?

[Jose_R.A.M]

well there we go..cpw idioticity strikes again! huzzaaa!

[jayesh]

carcomptoy am not sure of your place here in india one can easily get a replacement sim even for prepaid.

[Jose_R.A.M]

replacement sim for prepaid would sound easy. just buy a new sim and port ur number.

or do u mean that ur network blocks that card and gives u a new one for free?

[carcomptoy]

I'm not sure...I'm just assuming. I mean, you're not on the carrier's database since you didn't have to have a name and everything...so how would it work so that they could give you the replacement SIM?

[jayesh]

both of u guys jose and carcomptoy are in countries that allow number porting.

90 % of gsm areas dont

in our case u have to register with the provider before getting a sim i.e. basically photo id proof ( passport drivers license or any other valid national id )

there is address verification proof just proof u exist along side a copy of a nationally valid paper.

when a prepaid sim either gets damaged or lost or stolen all one has to do is approach the provider tell them to block that sim and they will give u a new sim either for free ( if u are an old subscriber or for a small amount .varies of course from provider to provider.

In response to jose
m not sure...I'm just assuming. I mean, you're not on the carrier's database since you didn't have to have a name and everything...so how would it work so that they could give you the replacement SIM?

yes u are on the network with your address and everything so its easy to give a sim

[Jose_R.A.M]

Well anyway, case and point, with the cash sending version of pasaload, when you lose your phone you lose your cash tough luck, but your fault you didnt take care of it anyway.

Back to pasaloading :)

[carcomptoy]

The thing is, with prepaid here in America, you don't even need to tell them your address or anything like that, you just buy the kit and activate it. They know nothing of you except that you're a SIM card owner...and so if you lose the SIM card, you have to buy a new one and in effect a new number. In the Philippines it's like this too...so my question is, how are they supposed to give you a new SIM when they have no idea who you are and anybody can just pretend to be a subscriber to get a new one?

[pinoypower]

i dont think lost sim card replacement with same number is possible in the philippines for prepaid subscribers. what i have tried though with globe was the sim upgrade. they'll upgrade your sim card with a new one with better memory, and you get to retain your old number.

[stuart30]

Hi guys this may sound like an odd question but would it be cheaper for my wife to have a smart/globe sim card to text back home to Philippines from uk,the reason i ask is she is currently with o2 and sending 10 - 15 text messages a day this is costing £2.50-£3.75...im wondering would a smart/globe sim be cheaper...thats if its even possible... :confused:

Really cant wait to move to Boracay. :D

[Jose_R.A.M]

If ur wife texts a lot to the phils, O2 has a bolton text abroad thing to make calls/texts abroad more financially viable.

It would save quite a bit, go check it out

[stuart30]

If ur wife texts a lot to the phils, O2 has a bolton text abroad thing to make calls/texts abroad more financially viable.

It would save quite a bit, go check it out


Many thanks will do... ;)